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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by vizzle View Post
    The best thing about this news is that all the people who hate addons have nothing to say now :3
    Why exactly? They didn't mention addons at all. Not in the sense that most people on this forum think of, anyway. He mentioned third party, out of game programs. Not addons, they weren't mentioned at all.

    So the ongoing disagreements regarding them will continue, and would anyway, even if they came out and announced something either way :P

  2. #22
    nice! whenever this patch drops, it's gonna be a spiffy one!
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  3. #23
    A little too late if you ask me.

  4. #24
    To bad we don't know what "Ranked PvP" means.... Hope it's not like WoW's failed team based system. I hope it is individual.

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Bale View Post
    A little too late if you ask me.
    time machines exist for a reason. use em. just try not to destroy the continuum. i'd like to keep on existing, thankyouverymuch.
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  6. #26
    I was hoping dps meters would never make it into SWtOR
    Also ranked warzones...well...im divided on that...Im scared it will turn into what arena became in wow: Boring.

    Other than that...ok i guess.

  7. #27
    Rejoice!!! Now people can watch their recounts instead of doing raid mechanics everyone enjoy. Heres a solution BW should implement their own "Recount" and make it to where a raid leader is the only one that can access it for study after a wipe, that way you will have you dps still following raid mechanics instead of worrying about being 1st on the dmg meters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hulkgor View Post
    Combat log =! API...

    you can parse the combat log text file outside the game to parse it for information... that's a long way from addons lol.
    Thats why I see this as middle ground. Those worried about elitism dont have to be concerned as they wont know instantly that X player didnt do ONE MILLION dps/hps/tps. Those that want to improve will find ways to their ONE MILLION dps. Those that never want to group with bad players will be able to retro their blacklists when they thought someone had low dps/hps/tps and have it validated.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by SoCal View Post
    Thats why I see this as middle ground. Those worried about elitism dont have to be concerned as they wont know instantly that X player didnt do ONE MILLION dps/hps/tps. Those that want to improve will find ways to their ONE MILLION dps. Those that never want to group with bad players will be able to retro their blacklists when they thought someone had low dps/hps/tps and have it validated.
    If the data is written to an external file, like a text file, as combat happens - which would make sense, it's the easiest way to allow that information for third party programs, then it would be available instantly, meaning a program could be written to act like an out of game version of Recount, they could even make it have a message you could copy into chat listing a person's DPS.

  10. #30
    new intro pvp sounds good

    but CROSS SERVER? WHY? WHY?!

  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by gabrield View Post
    I'm in agreement with you, he doesn't mention addons at all. In saying that the ability to parse the combat log with third party addons is far better than in game meters. You may miss out on real time information but sites like WOL are better than recount anyway.

    Slightly off topic but in regards to addons I always though Bioware should take the Apple store route with addons and allow users to submit them to BW to be published officially. It means BW can maintain complete control of the game and we can avoid game changing addons like DBM or even that one which name eludes me that drew circles on the ground telling you where to stand.
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  12. #32
    Too little too late for me as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mystik View Post
    new intro pvp sounds good

    but CROSS SERVER? WHY? WHY?!
    There are too few people on too many servers.
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  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by mystik View Post
    new intro pvp sounds good

    but CROSS SERVER? WHY? WHY?!
    The large amount of low population realms that have to wait 2o to 50 minutes for a warzone only to have it time out in 120 seconds due to lack or players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inboundpaper View Post
    There are too few people on too many servers.
    There are several servers that rarely have more then 200 ppl on at once on both sides. Slowly start subtracting ppl questing, trying to run FPs or that dont like pvp, as well as the 10 to 49 bracket and the 50 bracket and matches are just too few and far between for some ppl.
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  15. #35
    I think they should keep unranked WZ to server only as it builds community. At least it has on my server. Hadn't met half the people I now have on my friends list if it was crossrealm from day one.

    I still meet new people who just started, or havent done pvp at all. Yes pvp adds community too, not just pve.

    THey should also imho cut the amount of servers with at least 30% and get more high pop ones as there are only 2 servers who are at the level they should be. I like my server even if its medium-medium/high, but still. It feels empty at times ^^

    yes to cross server ranked. No to cross server normal.

  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Sangomah View Post
    I think they should keep unranked WZ to server only as it builds community. At least it has on my server. Hadn't met half the people I now have on my friends list if it was crossrealm from day one.

    I still meet new people who just started, or havent done pvp at all. Yes pvp adds community too, not just pve.

    THey should also imho cut the amount of servers with at least 30% and get more high pop ones as there are only 2 servers who are at the level they should be. I like my server even if its medium-medium/high, but still. It feels empty at times ^^

    yes to cross server ranked. No to cross server normal.
    I dont think ppl realize how bad the low pop servers are. You can have something like Fattman which will have more ppl in fleet for one faction then a few other servers have on total. I get wanting to find ppl to play the game with on your own server but on at least a dozen servers if that continues to be the only option you cant do anything or have to wait forever to do it. To make it worse ppl are leaving those servers for others since it gets really old when there are 15 ppl in fleet so you know a warzone isnt happening any time soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djdidi View Post
    Rejoice!!! Now people can watch their recounts instead of doing raid mechanics everyone enjoy. Heres a solution BW should implement their own "Recount" and make it to where a raid leader is the only one that can access it for study after a wipe, that way you will have you dps still following raid mechanics instead of worrying about being 1st on the dmg meters.
    So now raid leaders will have to coach and concil the entire raid on numbers and rotation? If ppl are that focused on meters mid combat they are idiots and its best to learn this in easy content and replace them. To me this sounds like being mad at the bullet because some moron fired a gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrven View Post
    So now raid leaders will have to coach and concil the entire raid on numbers and rotation? If ppl are that focused on meters mid combat they are idiots and its best to learn this in easy content and replace them. To me this sounds like being mad at the bullet because some moron fired a gun.
    Well, when people whipe they will notice they have to do high dps AND take care of the boss mechanics at the same time, as in other MMOs ^^
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  18. #38
    It's good they are adding this, thought it should have been there from the start.

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