Random moron shoots random black kid in gated community.
Conclusion, Americans are racist, trigger happy idiots.
He was in his car, got out (or might not have), and confronted the kid. The kid was only found with ice tea and Skittles. How do you do suspect that he is armed? I can pull the race card, but we all know that would be a ridiculous conclusion. If I see a kid walking down the street empty handed, the last thing I would be thinking is "You know what, this kid is probably packing right about now." So now we just assume everyone is armed and shoot them as soon as we get into an argument with them? That is not why the US government grants us the right to bare arms. Someone with a CCW and captain of Neighborhood Watch and a 4 year degree should have more sense than that. I hope the jury takes that into consideration.
It seems obvious that the guy was wrong in shooting this kid, though the reporting on the story atleast from the article provided is pretty bad too. What time was is? Is it dark? Is there done form of curfew in this community? I'm not saying any of those are reason to kill someone but the reporter of the story has no other angle, no details and even finishes up the story by saying it was obvious that it was because he was black. Jumping to a conclusion based on this story alone is impossible without additional facts.
I really hate racism, since any person can be a racist regardless of their actual race, wish ppl would learn that any PERSON can be intolerable not an entire race of ppl. simple mindedness
its a real shame since someone who is racist could easily find a person (of said race in which they loath) that could end up being their best friend or partner, yet ppl let skin colour dictate their views on someone before they've even met them. bah its got so out of hand now its not like its a problem that will ever be fixable since even if your not racist you know there are ppl that are. who also know other ppl are which sounds a bit convoluted but bleh.
I'm not talking about what happened in this case, but think about what you are saying. I have every right to defend myself. If someone is coming at me in a threatening way I have no way of knowing if they are armed or not. All I know is they are threatening my well being. So you would prefer I wait for them to draw the gun first? Or just wait for them to be arms length away to where he could get the gun away from me? Maybe they have a knife in their back pocket. Do I still wait fro them to be close enough to use it?
Last edited by Orange Joe; 2012-03-09 at 06:23 PM.
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From what I can see we have a kid who got shot by a white guy with very little else mentioned.
Kay, where's the rest of the relevant information so we can do more than just jumped to stupid conclusions?
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On topic! The guy needs to be arrested for murdering that kid. Hate crime.
As usual a white guy shoots a black guy and everyone cries racism...
Last edited by anveena; 2012-03-09 at 06:28 PM.
Does anybody have another report of this story that actually has, you know, details?
I read it, and all I got from it was "black kid walking home with candy, guy on watch shoots him".
Really? That's all?
Did he threaten the watchman? Did he pretend to have a gun? Did he try to assault him? Did he ignore him?
It's all guesswork from here.
So many lemmings in here. You actually come to the conclusion that the guy's some racist nutjob? God help us if any of you manage to get any kind of position in any of the justice or law enforcement organizations in whatever country you live in. The article doesn't even say that they've proved that Zimmerman shot the kid, only that the family lawyer accuses him of doing such. Get some real reading comprehension.
There are no details what so ever. If you would have payed attention to the video, they clearly state that it is all "under investigation" by the police. Also, in the video it says that the kid had skittles in his pocket and no, he did not threaten the guy. It was simply a hate crime. The guy who shot the kid claims that he got assaulted.
He admitted it and claimed self-defense.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/0...dade-teen.html
Basically Zimmerman sees the kid deems him as suspicious for what ever reason starts following him around harassing him, they get into a tussle and the kid ends up shot.
Last edited by Dacien; 2012-03-10 at 07:19 AM.
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An idiot (allegedly) racist person did something completely uncalled for and moronic. Because a person abused his power (owning a gun), everyone else should be held accountable and punished for his actions. A few things:
1. I didn't read the story, and I'm not going to. I just don't feel like it, sorry.
2. That dumb dirtbag should get the death penalty.
3. Abuse of owning a gun doesn't mean no one sohuld be allowed to own one. People have been killed with hundreds--if not thousands--of things over the years. I mean, we've heard of people suffocating others with pillows. Should pillows be banned? We've seen a crazy person go crazy and assault cops with toy lightsabers. Shoudl those be banned? We've seen people stab others to death. Should steak knives be outlawed? People have choked people wit their bare hands. Should all hands be removed for the protection of others? People have drowned others. Shall we expel all water from the planet so that doesn't happen again?
My point is, you can't take the unusual cases and treat them like they are the normalized incident. Taking away gun rights won't stop criminals. They'll illegally get guns regardless (how many times have pople been killed with stolen weapons?). If you ban all firearms in the country, criminals will go to crossbows. Ban them, they go to a regular bow (though most are too stupid to operate one properly). Ban them, they'll use rocks.
If someone wants to commit a violent crime, he'll do it. Banning guns won't stop people from being angry and violent. You can't ban angry and violent, either.
The first problem is that an unarmed person was killed by an armed person who's supposed to be neighbourhood watch, not a vigilante bandit murdering all potential threats. Even in regards to the police, until there is visible threat, unless they can see an offensive weapon (i.e. gun), they do not shoot to kill but instead deploy other means such as CS gas, tazers, etc (obviously this doesn't happen every time). Non-lethal weapons demand for subduing of the person carrying that weapon, again, for example there is not justification for a policeman shooting somebody with a baseball bat in the heart, considering policemen that carry arms are taught both lethal and non-lethal shots. So if the law enforcers have limits imposed on their actions, what gives this man the right to kill, shooting the young dude in the chest when there is no evidence of a threat to his life?
Did Zimmerman warn the boy that he had a gun? Did Zimmerman unsheathe the gun to make it visible to the boy that he had dangerous weaponry? Or did he just simply pump small bits of metal into the boy's chest?
Note I have not mentioned race in anything I've said so far. Now as a black male, to throw race into the mix... I'm not even surprised this shit still happens. 2012 is just a number, racism will always exist in this world as long as there is more than one skin colour. I'm so so sure that if it was a young white boy walking around in the gated community, nothing would've happened. It's an assumption, but from my own experiences I'm confident in my assumption. My family and I flew out to Florida from the UK in 2010 and stayed in Kissimmee. There was a basketball court within the community. We played a couple of times, and at first we were questioned by the area security (I'm assuming). We told them we were staying in the area. Fair enough, they aren't familiar with us. Same dude questioned us each time, eventually muttering 'I'm surprised black folk even made it here'. I'm sure he didn't intend for me and my dad to hear it, but from that point on we no longer played outside. I couldn't approach anybody throughout the duration of the holiday without them clutching their bag or refusing to make eye contact. It's only when they heard a British accent they stopped and poised. Even when I went Atlanta in 2007, the same thing. The racial tension is still high there.
Fair enough, the media creates stereotypical fears of certain cultures, and shit, sometimes we create them ourselves. But I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it was a consequence of racism.
And you know what the biggest fuckery of all is? Zimmerman was not even arrested. Lol. *shaking my damn head*