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    Quote Originally Posted by Thes View Post
    Anyone else feels that Furion is the biggest joke ever everytime the game goes to endgame? :s With the 600-700 GPM regardless of what you do it will eventually make the hero so strong for counter push/backdoor if the other team even thinks about leaving the base.
    There are two reliable ways to beat a Furion: Play tinker, or finish before the 25 minute mark.

    What do you guys think of Lich as a support in an offensive trilane?

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    I can't be the only person who loved the everloving crap out of that game. Tobi and TheCapitalist have such amazing synergy.

    It was also rather nice to see something other than a 20m one-sided stomp for once. Great plays from KP, but they really should've been more mindful at the end.

    #ExcitingDota


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    Isn't Tobi the caster that everyone finds extremely annoying? >_>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    Isn't Tobi the caster that everyone finds extremely annoying? >_>
    You must be confusing him with Sheever. Tobi is alright, but Sheever on the other hand.. I dont know why, but i cant listen to her for more than two minutes =/

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    tbh compared to GDstudio all other casters are crap but i find sheever more watchable than tobi , he is too loud for my taste it feels like those football commentators who scream "goaaaaal" for 20 sec after each score , also there is too much asslicking going on on his stream

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comburo View Post
    You must be confusing him with Sheever. Tobi is alright, but Sheever on the other hand.. I dont know why, but i cant listen to her for more than two minutes =/
    I managed about 10 seconds. I like Tobi, he's more of an entertainer than a caster who goes in-depth about game mechanics and such.

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    I really enjoy watching Tobi stream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ichy View Post
    No... it was a Huge issue in HoN, People would get killed and would immediately start spamming the button at 15min. There are slim chances you could win 3v5 and 4v5, my self and several friends have actually done 3v5's and pulled out a win, if the button had existed, then we wouldn't have had such amazing games, or turnarounds.
    Just have it always require 5/5 votes to surrender.

    If 0% of people want to keep fighting I don't see any point in having to wait for the other team to
    farm your well for 25 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anaralah View Post
    he is too loud for my taste it feels like those football commentators who scream "goaaaaal" for 20 sec after each score
    That's what I said!

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    Quote Originally Posted by juzalol View Post
    Just have it always require 5/5 votes to surrender.

    If 0% of people want to keep fighting I don't see any point in having to wait for the other team to
    farm your well for 25 minutes.
    Doesn't work. People will stop playing to force others in the team to press the button.

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    Then you can report them!

    Enjoy your CHAT BAN, suckers!

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    Chat ban is really annoying , gave my bottle to a guy to use a few charges and took him 3 mins to realise he has it and give it back to me despite constant pinging on him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariadne View Post
    Doesn't work. People will stop playing to force others in the team to press the button.
    Those people will stop playing regardless of having a surrender option or not. And to be honest I'll rather have my entire
    team sitting at well to get out of a lost game than get farmed for 45 minutes while enemy team camps our base with
    30k gold lead but doesn't push to base because they want to farm kills.

    I have finally got used to the chat mute system. The only people not being muted on my team are almost exclusively speaking
    in cyrillic russian and if you dare to ask them to switch to english you'll end up chat muted for 24 hours yourself.

    So the best option is always to not type anything regardless of situation, especially if there is a reason to suspect they might
    be friends or queued together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juzalol View Post
    Those people will stop playing regardless of having a surrender option or not. And to be honest I'll rather have my entire
    team sitting at well to get out of a lost game than get farmed for 45 minutes while enemy team camps our base with
    30k gold lead but doesn't push to base because they want to farm kills.

    I have finally got used to the chat mute system. The only people not being muted on my team are almost exclusively speaking
    in cyrillic russian and if you dare to ask them to switch to english you'll end up chat muted for 24 hours yourself.

    So the best option is always to not type anything regardless of situation, especially if there is a reason to suspect they might
    be friends or queued together.
    You've heard of pressure? Everyone will ask the guy that doesn't want to forfeit to forfeit. They will whine on him all game. And one guy can get the three others to also give up, forcing the last one to forfeit too. Also, the best games in my opinion are the games you turn around. Haven't you ever won a game with two lanes of raxes down? I have. 100% those games wouldn't happen if there was a forfeit option. People aren't good enough to decide whether a game is over or not. They just look at their own game and their own hero and if it isn't going well for them the game is over.

    I had a games three days ago or something where they took down two lanes of raxes. We defended for like 20 minutes the last rax. People wanted to give up but I for sure didn't. Never underestimate people's ability to throw.

    Another game I remember was when our Pudge gave up and told us all to give up because he was havin ga bad game. I constantly said no because I was playing Anti-mage and had good farm. Granted, I couldn't help my team early and they got wrecked but I knew we could win because the opponents were trash. We won. Pudge was semi AFK for like 4 minutes and then he realized we could actually win when I wrecked their team a couple of times and he started playing again. 100% my team would have cried for me to forfeit with a forfeit option.

    And if you all really want to give up, you can just AFK in base. Takes maximum of 5 minutes before the game ends. Remember to try to smoke away from base so they don't fountain camp you.
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    I agree a forfeit button would suck balls,also why take the fun away of the winners?stomping a team is fun too,and everyone gets a chance to try it.
    and why should a game stop if you're losing it?dealing with overwhelming opponents is good training

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    Morning all

    Have been checking out a few vids of Dota after playing some LoL - wondered if anyone had a spare key floating around?

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZRebellion View Post
    I agree a forfeit button would suck balls,also why take the fun away of the winners?stomping a team is fun too,and everyone gets a chance to try it.
    and why should a game stop if you're losing it?dealing with overwhelming opponents is good training
    Training for what?

    Standing at well for few minutes and then having to go get in XP range so you don't get an abandon so enemy
    Storm Spirit can just jump and instantly kill you for 40 minutes isn't really teaching me much.

    If you get locked up to your base and don't have the sickest wombo combo ultimates to turn the game the only
    way you are gonna turn the game around is that your opponent has absolutely no clue how to play the game, in
    which case you wouldn't get in the situation in the first place.

    There isn't really anything your team can do to force you to hit the surrender button. If the would bitch just put
    them on mute and continue playing.

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    There are situations where i would love an forfeit but i had so many games like Ariadne describedm maybe thats because im on normal/high rating, maybe its hard to see that kind of turn arounds on very high (i've just a few games on very high), but based on my xp, if the game had a forfeit button i would have more losses than i've now.

  19. #7759
    Forfeit button? No way in hell I would agree with that. You can argue all you want about fruitless struggle against impossible odds and how it is a waste of time to play till the end, but I'll remain unconvinced. It's psychological, cause, if you know you have a surrender option, you will keep it in mind, and it will mostly surely affect your judgement and your gameplay at a most crucial moment, sure as sure. Grow some balls, do your best, enjoy what you find entertaining, that's the right way im(not)ho.


    About pressure, and reporting trigger-happy pansy ass butt-munchers: feth them. Do you really сare if a bunch of retarded douchebags flames you? I certainly dont, cause, they don't know me, so why would I listen to them? Stay cool, stay mighty ;[
    Last edited by Morally Grey Storm; 2013-05-12 at 11:23 AM.

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    Man, I've had some incredible games where my teams ancient was half hp while their base was still up with full t1 towers. I think it's been weeks in a row since I win quite a bit such games. Forfeit button? That shit is for pussies. If you want to abandon, go ahead and quit dota and get the abandon, don't be a pussy.

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