Who is John Galt?
As to the argument, thats one of my reasons if you dont agree with my reason well thats your right but it wasnt the main point I was making. The point was I dont have a smart phone (and I gave my reasons for that) and I know there are plenty of other people out there who also dont have smart phones for a variety of reasons. Having just a mobile version, particularly if its required to play would be bad because you'd exclude folks that could play the game but dont have the right peripheral devices. Beter to just include the authenticator with the purchase and require that and have a mobile version avalible if folks prefer to use the smartphone instead as that approach will work for all situations not just a select few.
Last edited by Merendel; 2012-03-21 at 07:38 PM.
Who is John Galt?
There Can't Be botters or blackmarket websites that sell anything.
Why ? Because the market sets the price on Gems The Cash curency, and Gold / in game items.
Also you claim to know they are selling some giant sword well they are not, they are only selling vanity items skins for armor mounts pets etc.
You are making this to be some big deal and it is not.
-Scrapbot stole my sig-
B) Yes convenience is the exact model of the micro transition model they are setting up, "I want character slot 6, if I farm the gold for it to turn into gems to buy it will take about 3 months but wont cost a dime other then me doing what I would be doing anyways, or I can drop $5-10 and get it now and save the in game gold for other items like siege weapons in WvW... Can you pay $5-10 for a character slot that most micro transaction models would make you pay for? yes. Can you just play one of your characters for a while and eventually save up enough in game gold to get that character slot for free which most other microtransaction models don't let you do? yes, you don't have to spend a dime on that character slot if you don't want to.
C) Because of not being able to buy power and being able to choose what to drop money for now or gradually get over time by just playing it allows for a less offensive micro trans then many others. On top of not forcing people to spend $15-30 more for those 3 character slots to have one of each type it also helps out with in game gold inflation since it adds yet another gold sink for those who don't want to spend money.
All in all, there is no model that would eliminate botters, but this one looks like it would reduce botters since botters would have to undercut Anets price on Gems and gold which would be less then profitable since there is no zone you can go into to bot and 1 shot every mob for its skin, not to mention how good you would have to be to program a bot that uses the dodge mechanic properly and can get out of AoEs since it is not static combat that is easy to bot. Hacked/Phished/keylogged accounts will still be profitable to sell gold from, but botting not so much.
Don't worry guys, I got this. I'm majoring in [insert economy field here], so I should know a thing or two about how this is working.
From my professional understanding of things:
-sell gold for gems.
-sell gems for gold.
-buy gems with IRL $$$.
-use gems in cash shop.
It would take a damn good programmer in order to create a bot that would function in combat correctly VS ANet's AI, or at least someone smart. Also, don't kid yourselves (if you are), there will be gold and gem farmers. There always are, but with the system that ANet is putting up, there shouldn't be as many. ANet knows there's going to be farmers, they're just trying to create a way to prevent them from botting and hacking in order to make money fast. At least I think/hope they are. Which brings me to the last on my list...
-Sell gems and gold for IRL $$$.
With that said, I'm almost certain ANet will make it more beneficial for players to buy cash shop items with gold and gems that they EARNED; not bought from a 3rd party company.
Will there be any incentives for accumulating large amounts of gold? I don't think gathering wealth will be nearly as important in GW2 as it is in many games.
Also, aren't gathering node locations randomized?
They made the game. They made the cash shop. They make all final choices and fixes. If they can't find a way to fix the economy, if it ever get's broke, then yeah, it'll be the same as every other MMO economy. Which I really don't care about.
I'll buy my gems from ANet with IRL $$$. IMO, this whole topic is just stupid.
Support the company that makes the game you're playing, people! It's really just that simple!
Micro-transactions*in GW1 were done with real money via the in-game store. *Is GW2 doing it with in-game money this time? *If the former is correct then I fail to see what this has to do with encouraging bots, unless a player wishes to earn real money through selling gold - which the average player seeking cash-shop purchases would be mightily inconvenienced to do.
From Guild Wars 2 Facebook page :
Here are a few important clarifications about our microtransaction system. First, that gold is coming from other players. So somebody must have an abundance of gold if he trades it to a player. The system is not adding new gold from the outside.
Second, take into account the gem/gold trading system. Everything that is in the store will basically be available for gold with this system - so it doesn't really matter what is in the store, as it is also available for players who play and don't want to spend additional money. Hope that helps! ~RB2
What I was saying was don't buy gold or gems from 3rd party companies and issues like botting and farmers will become reduced beyond recognition. Of course you're supporting them by purchasing the game, no argument there, that goes for any consumer/producer relationship. And I'm right there with you when it comes to being thrifty with games. I hate buying games at full price, and I'll usually wait a few months to even a year before buying. Hell, when RAGE went from $60 to $30 I was all over it like flies on shit.
GW2 is the premo shit though; the cream of the crop for me. I've been waiting for a developer to make an MMO this great for at least 7-10 years. I will back them up fully and will even fork out some cash to get my character in some bad ass cosmetic gear. Hell yeah.