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  1. #701
    Quote Originally Posted by philefluxx View Post
    Or you can fly out to low/null with a crappy ship and prepared for a pod kill, find someone to blow you up and sell the kill rights.
    Pod kills in null don't give kill rights, and this is not profitable anyway.
    Profitable pvp is either suicide ganking or pirating. Nothing even comes close to trading though.
    Last edited by haxartus; 2013-02-02 at 01:11 PM.

  2. #702
    when i asked if u get money for pvp i meant this: there are 2 corps fighting in a solar system. corp1 takes 10bilion loss and the corp2 takes 5 billion loss. doest that mean corp2 gets 10b isk and corp1 gets 5bisk ?

  3. #703
    Quote Originally Posted by Khatolic View Post
    when i asked if u get money for pvp i meant this: there are 2 corps fighting in a solar system. corp1 takes 10bilion loss and the corp2 takes 5 billion loss. doest that mean corp2 gets 10b isk and corp1 gets 5bisk ?
    Not really. Let's say that a ship costs 100 million and has another 100 million in modules. Each module has a 50% chance of dropping, so you will get on average 50 million from this situation.
    Of course, sometimes you have an 1 million ship with 10 million in modules or a 100 million ship with 50 million in modules.
    Last edited by haxartus; 2013-02-02 at 02:21 PM.

  4. #704
    ok so basically u can get money if u sell something u looted. but no money at all from just destroying hulls right ?

  5. #705
    Quote Originally Posted by Khatolic View Post
    ok so basically u can get money if u sell something u looted. but no money at all from just destroying hulls right ?
    Correct. Only PVE give you money from killing ships directly, not pvp.

    Edit: Also, PVP is generally a rather poor way to make money (except suicideganking), at least if you are a fan of exciting fights, and not just pure ganks. Supporting pvp habits with a (few, if needed) trade alt, research alt, industry alt, PVE/ratting/mission alt (or main ofc) is highly recommended.
    Last edited by Appren; 2013-02-02 at 10:28 PM.

  6. #706
    The owner of the destroyed ship gets some ISK if they insured it. But due to the way the insurance system works, the best and most expensive ships get almost no insurance.

  7. #707
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khatolic View Post
    ok so basically u can get money if u sell something u looted. but no money at all from just destroying hulls right ?
    You can always salvage the wreckage, if it was a Tech 2/3 ship you make a nice bit of money from reselling the scrap.

  8. #708
    Quote Originally Posted by kumduh View Post
    This PL hotdrop caused players in DUST514 to crash.
    http://i.imgur.com/5mDPPUI.jpg

    400 capitals on field.
    Haven't touched EVE in years, but this view is astonishing, care to explain what was happening?

  9. #709
    I have tried EVE a few times but I always got put off by the stupid skill system and the maximum of 8 weapon slots per ship
    Quote Originally Posted by Dj
    your a Gnome, how the heck does it feel to suck that badly?
    Quote Originally Posted by Xtacle
    Gnomes are awesome, and piss people off, how does it feel to die to a tiny pink puffball?

  10. #710
    Quote Originally Posted by raddry View Post
    Haven't touched EVE in years, but this view is astonishing, care to explain what was happening?
    This
    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...1#post20003664

    and also a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTQHv0FrgrE

  11. #711
    Quote Originally Posted by raddry View Post
    Haven't touched EVE in years, but this view is astonishing, care to explain what was happening?
    Not sure about the details (I've lost my Pandemic Legion forum access after I went inactive and quit playing), but appears to be a rather huge hot drop. Lots of ships, in this case capitals that jump in on an unsuspecting enemy via cyno and (for subcapitals) titan bridge. I'll have to say that 400 capitals is rather big though, certainly bigger than most hot drops were back when I was in PL/Snigg.

  12. #712
    It looks really amazing haha, just re subbed Eve See you in game ^^

  13. #713
    Quote Originally Posted by russ555 View Post
    I have tried EVE a few times but I always got put off by the stupid skill system and the maximum of 8 weapon slots per ship
    The skill system is the best thing ever created in a MMO.
    In other MMOs you spend time grinding your level up, then grinding your gear up, then grinding your reputation up. At some point you max out everything and then start another character and go through the exact same thing. And then a new patch or an expansion comes, a new level cap is released and your gear is useless. You have to spend an absurd amount of time getting your characters to a playable state again. And nobody cares what you achieved in the past. All of your previous progress is useless, except for bragging rights.
    In EvE all of this is different. You progress not through grinding but through training in real time. You could be away for weeks and months and your character is still "leveling up". There is no skill points cap, but that doesn't mean that the veteran characters are overpowered. You train for specific roles in the game (tackler, sniper, etc). The difference between the relatively new players (4-5 months) and the veterans (4-5 years) is that the new players can take one or two roles extremely well with a select few ships, while the veterans can take tens of different roles with tens of different ships. All of this means that you can learn to fly one ship quite fast and have a lot of fun with it, and be competitive with the veterans flying the same ship. You can also never get bored with the game, since there are so many different roles and exciting ships you can learn to fly.
    Last edited by haxartus; 2013-02-03 at 12:38 PM.

  14. #714
    shit, the second port of my GFX card just died, so I'm now locked in one screen. I can't overcome that I can't play multiple clients at the same time on just one screen..gaah

    /sigh..

    Pulls wallet.

  15. #715
    Quote Originally Posted by haxartus View Post
    The skill system is the best thing ever created in a MMO.
    In other MMOs you spend time grinding your level up, then grinding your gear up, then grinding your reputation up. At some point you max out everything and then start another character and go through the exact same thing. And then a new patch or an expansion comes, a new level cap is released and your gear is useless. You have to spend an absurd amount of time getting your characters to a playable state again. And nobody cares what you achieved in the past. All of your previous progress is useless, except for bragging rights.
    In EvE all of this is different. You progress not through grinding but through training in real time. You could be away for weeks and months and your character is still "leveling up". There is no skill points cap, but that doesn't mean that the veteran characters are overpowered. You train for specific roles in the game (tackler, sniper, etc). The difference between the relatively new players (4-5 months) and the veterans (4-5 years) is that the new players can take one or two roles extremely well with a select few ships, while the veterans can take tens of different roles with tens of different ships. All of this means that you can learn to fly one ship quite fast and have a lot of fun with it, and be competitive with the veterans flying the same ship. You can also never get bored with the game, since there are so many different roles and exciting ships you can learn to fly.
    From what I remember though you can start flying new ships quite quickly until suddenly you hit a wall that requires months of training to be able to fly/fit your next ship. During that time you're stuck in the same old ship probably doing the same old missions. This gets very boring very fast

    At the moment EVE is just a game that is more fun reading about than playing, for me anyway.

    Edit: 4-5 months to be competitive with the long time players may not seem bad but when you're a new player there's a good chance you don't even know what the roles are and even if you do you can't be sure which you will enjoy the most until you have tried them.
    Last edited by russ555; 2013-02-03 at 01:19 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dj
    your a Gnome, how the heck does it feel to suck that badly?
    Quote Originally Posted by Xtacle
    Gnomes are awesome, and piss people off, how does it feel to die to a tiny pink puffball?

  16. #716
    Quote Originally Posted by russ555 View Post
    From what I remember though you can start flying new ships quite quickly until suddenly you hit a wall that requires months of training to be able to fly/fit your next ship. During that time you're stuck in the same old ship probably doing the same old missions. This gets very boring very fast

    At the moment EVE is just a game that is more fun reading about than playing, for me anyway.

    Edit: 4-5 months to be competitive with the long time players may not seem bad but when you're a new player there's a good chance you don't even know what the roles are and even if you do you can't be sure which you will enjoy the most until you have tried them.
    If all you do is missions, you will get bored. The missions are years old and rarely updated because they are not the focus of the game. Although they did recently get a few NPC AI changes, most people hate the changes though. Other than missions for PVE you have Incursions which are 5/10/20/40 man group battles, Exploration which pairs a location pinpointing minigame with a few other things, some of which include shooting ships at a location. You also have wormholes which are usually a group activity which involve scanning out wormholes (using the aforementioned pinpointing game) and destroying the ancient rogue AI ships inside, along with gathering materials.

    Each of the Tech 1 Frigates and Cruisers (smallest, and 3rd smallest ships) have their own specific role now, which is stated in their description quite clearly, even when it isn't for other ships the ship bonuses tend to give it away, i.e. 5% bonus to x damage/range/etc means you should probably use x. The T1 frigates and cruisers are also rather good now after the rebalancing and very cost-effective. With a few days training you could be flying 10 different ships, though not are all useful for PVE.

    http://www.eveonline.com/retribution...nd-ship-roles/

  17. #717
    Quote Originally Posted by emanresu View Post
    If all you do is missions, you will get bored. The missions are years old and rarely updated because they are not the focus of the game. Although they did recently get a few NPC AI changes, most people hate the changes though. Other than missions for PVE you have Incursions which are 5/10/20/40 man group battles, Exploration which pairs a location pinpointing minigame with a few other things, some of which include shooting ships at a location. You also have wormholes which are usually a group activity which involve scanning out wormholes (using the aforementioned pinpointing game) and destroying the ancient rogue AI ships inside, along with gathering materials.

    Each of the Tech 1 Frigates and Cruisers (smallest, and 3rd smallest ships) have their own specific role now, which is stated in their description quite clearly, even when it isn't for other ships the ship bonuses tend to give it away, i.e. 5% bonus to x damage/range/etc means you should probably use x. The T1 frigates and cruisers are also rather good now after the rebalancing and very cost-effective. With a few days training you could be flying 10 different ships, though not are all useful for PVE.

    http://www.eveonline.com/retribution...nd-ship-roles/
    Though, let's face it. If you do not find a good corp, you will have to really bite through the very thick surface of EVE before you find the rich game that's underneath it. I had the luck that a nice corp picked me up and taught me much of the basics, but there's no such thing as an easy ride into PvP or trading, or planet management without guidance.

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    Never could get the hang of this came, but i'll say that without a doubt it is the game of choice for epic battle screenshots.
    "Can your blood atone for genocide, orc? Your Horde killed countless innocents with its rampage across Stormwind and Lordaeron. Do you really think you can just sweep all that away and cast aside your guilt so easily? No, your kind will never change, and I will never stop fighting you." - Grand Admiral Proudmoore

  19. #719
    Quote Originally Posted by Vespian View Post
    Though, let's face it. If you do not find a good corp, you will have to really bite through the very thick surface of EVE before you find the rich game that's underneath it. I had the luck that a nice corp picked me up and taught me much of the basics, but there's no such thing as an easy ride into PvP or trading, or planet management without guidance.
    This is certainly true. I first joined what turned out to be a recruiting corp for the long-dead ASCN alliance, which was bloody useless and full of extreme carebears, and I almost quit playing the game at that point. Then I joined SNIGGWAFFE, a training corp for the Sniggerdly corp (Pandemic Legion), and that changed my game a LOT, and I went on playing for nearly 5 more years after that. Wether you enjoy pvp, piracy, scamming, suicideganking, pve, industry or...ugh...mining, being in a good corp is always a plus.

  20. #720
    Hi All,

    I've been getting a spike in scam petitions for buddy invites, people claiming to have used the link and not invited by email, and since the link is anonymous, I can only use the date of subscription to match up users with their invites. So I'm taking the link out of my sig, but people can still PM me their email for the trial, this should reduce the amount of scammers.

    Jin

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