Originally Posted by
Darkdruidelf
I loathe WW jungle, and think that he is appauling.
Sona can clear the new jungle. He used to be good because he could survive a lot, but these days its hardly difficult to clear. His clear speed is really slow, gets his ass kicked in the jungle by so many better junglers (you say you invade, but what if you run into, say, Udyr. Let me tell you, he wins that fight. It's not even close), he can't gank at all before level 6 (other than running into lane and saying 'hello' as the person just leaves), and in this current meta of buying wards everywhere, pre level 6 ganks are often some of the only ones you can get off.
You also said you invade really early. Okay, what about people who guard buffs? I may not start red, but I expect my team to guard it, and I'll be CVing your jungle to check where you are.
And then even at level 6 his ganks are STILL subpar. He can only gank with his ulti, that's one gank every 60 seconds (maybe more, I'm not sure off the top of my head). Compare this to Udyr or Lee Sin or Shaco or Maokai, or really anyone, who can gank every ten seconds, also have a better clear speed, more damage, bring more to the team, and are just generally better.
In all honesty I have no idea why anyone still plays WW jungle, and it makes me cry every time someone instalocks it. Its just bad in pretty much every single way, and I really dont think he's competitive at all in the current jungle.