The way Guild Wars 2 is MEANT to be played

[Leben]

Up until this video I had no intention of playing a mesmer. Now I have 3 classes to choose from at the beta weekend ;(

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Then like, GW1, you get into a group with randoms who call you all sort of names if you don't play this or that way (when I tried to get back to GW1 after a long break I quit and unninstalled after 30 minutes just due to that).

[Delias]

Then like, GW1, you get into a group with randoms who call you all sort of names if you don't play this or that way (when I tried to get back to GW1 after a long break I quit and unninstalled after 30 minutes just due to that).

I think GW2's community will be perfectly fine (compared to other online games, not saying it will be amazing because no game with a large community is), and the way DEs work is that you don't have to be in a group at all yet still get full credit (based off of your participation) and the same loot (everyone's loot is individual, also based off of participation)
The whole "getting called names because you don't play well" is going to happen in every MMO..
It happens all the time in WoW (not to me, personally), due to your DPS not being high enough, gear being wrong, spec being wrong.
Saying that GW2's community will suck due to you having a single bad experience (I'm guessing it was a single, since you said 'uninstalled after 30mins') in GW1 is beyond silly.

[Ethas]

Then like, GW1, you get into a group with randoms who call you all sort of names if you don't play this or that way (when I tried to get back to GW1 after a long break I quit and unninstalled after 30 minutes just due to that).

Because people in randoms in wow doesn't do that despite how awful at game they are. Oh wait... they do.

OP:
Awesome video and makes me really reconsider how real and cool PvP looks in GW2. Potential PvP fan here =)

[worsthitmanNa]

People are saying that when you turn your back to an enemy they get extra crit so i will have to backpedal to stay away from people. Which seems like a big buff to melee. backpedaling is like a 50% snare while melee just run forward and have self dispel to get rid of slows seems kind of dumb.

[Delias]

People are saying that when you turn your back to an enemy they get extra crit so i will have to backpedal to stay away from people. Which seems like a big buff to melee. backpedaling is like a 50% snare while melee just run forward and have self dispel to get rid of slows seems kind of dumb.

I'm confused, how is this different than WoW?
In WoW, if you turn your back to an enemy you can't hit them and you can't dodge or parry, so you have to strafe so that you back isn't to them.
In GW2, they get extra crit, so you have to strafe so your back isn't to them.
Why would back crit 'force' you to backpedal? >.>

[worsthitmanNa]

Youll get flamed in gw2 as well lol maybe not for the first few months but you will people take video games super seriously.

[Lucky_]

Sorry for asking but will they remove this, i dont know what to call it, flying/gliding effect when you run in the released game?

In all the likelyhood, no. Those of us who saw how GW1 worked, it's basically "great art, shoddy animations". We had several threads on the topic to date.

You'll likely have to "deal with it". That said much bigger problem is lack of cast bars, as at this point to see something important being cast you need to see animation and small particles around the mob's arms, which is almost impossible when several players are beating on that mob, causing the "particle soup" from player's effects.

That one arenanet acknowledged as a serious problem and went on the record to say they're working on it. Solution has not been out yet, in spite of several months having passed, so it seems it's a tough one to tackle.

[worsthitmanNa]

you can shoot the enemy from over your shoulder but your back is still facing them doing this i am moving at 100% movement speed. So if i am kiting a warrior. He can take out his rifle and get extra critical chance on me but i can't get extra critical him because he is facing forward. If i back pedal to stop the extra critical chance. I have a 50% snare on me that scales with his slows so i will move even slower the warrior also has condition removers for any snare but he can also just run forward at me all the time. At 100% movement speed why'll i am stuck at 50% which is dumb. I know i can dodge roll out of the way but look "I AM A RANGER NOT A NINJA" fighting people at "RANGE" is what i am supposed to do.

[Delias]

you can shoot the enemy from over your shoulder but your back is still facing them doing this i am moving at 100% movement speed. So if i am kiting a warrior. He can take out his rifle and get extra critical chance on me but i can't get extra critical him because he is facing forward. If i back pedal to stop the extra critical chance. I have a 50% snare on me that scales with his slows so i will move even slower the warrior also has condition removes for any snare but the warrior can just run forward at all times toward me at 100% movement speed why'll i am stuck at 50% which is dumb. I know i can dodge roll out of the way but look "I AM A RANGER NOT A NINJA" fighting people at "RANGE" is what i am supposed to do.

As I JUST SAID, there is this magical movement type called 'strafing'.
It's not just backpedaling VS turning your back, you can also strafe.
You're not supposed to turn your back to an enemy in WoW either, if you do you're doing it wrong.
Obviously, you have never heard of strafing, so I'm unsure why I'm bothering trying to explain it to you.

[worsthitmanNa]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U4zv...feature=relmfu 2.16 seconds into the video he back is still facing the feral but he is strafing that's what i am talking about.

http://64.25.35.206/wiki/Flanking_Critical_Chance
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Body_direction that's what i am talking about Btw that's a thief talent so the flanking thing might not be for every class so yeah : D.

[Kharli]

Yeah but any press player is absolutely fuckbad terrible at the game and any other game so he is just happy to see a video where a player knows what he's doing. I am also tired of the bads on youtube beta videos even though I watch them anyway because I can't wait for the game. Watching the video now, but I'll just say before I do.. Awesome vid!

I have seen the devs play and they are good.

Wow, very epic commentary by them as well.

uhum.. Totalbiscuit/totalhalibut played WITH DEVS, who then got whooped in the face by there own mechanics. yeh press-plays bad.. yes the majority may do that, but that is because they don't generlly understands the game( in a few parts), this does not mean YOU OR ME are better than the press-guys playing the game.

[Choptimus]

Looks soooo clunky :S I was hyped as hell for this game when I heard about it but every video makes it look worse and worse. Hotkey mmo with clunky animations, movement, boring spell effects and abilities tied to weapons?! Eurgh. All the backpeddle makes my eyes bleed too.

[Delias]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U4zv...feature=relmfu 2.16 seconds into the video he back is still facing the feral but he is strafing that's what i am talking about.

http://64.25.35.206/wiki/Flanking_Critical_Chance
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Body_direction that's what i am talking about Btw that's a thief talent so the flanking thing might not be for every class so yeah : D.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Backstab
http://www.wowwiki.com/Shred
http://www.wowwiki.com/Dodge
http://www.wowwiki.com/Parry

Players can only dodge attacks if they are facing their opponent
Targets of melee attacks can have a chance to parry each incoming frontal attack.

My point is that you're not supposed to turn your back to enemies in WoW either, how is this any different.
Enemies do more damage to your back, same as WoW.

Looks soooo clunky :S I was hyped as hell for this game when I heard about it but every video makes it look worse and worse. Hotkey mmo with clunky animations, movement, boring spell effects and abilities tied to weapons?! Eurgh. All the backpeddle makes my eyes bleed too.

I personally don't think it looks clunky, but if it does to you then don't play.

[Window]

It was pretty decent, just a shame that their "best" players back peddle so much.

the ele looked good

[worsthitmanNa]

http://www.wowwiki.com/Backstab
http://www.wowwiki.com/Shred
http://www.wowwiki.com/Dodge
http://www.wowwiki.com/Parry


My point is that you're not supposed to turn your back to enemies in WoW either, how is this any different.
Enemies do more damage to your back, same as WoW.


I personally don't think it looks clunky, but if it does to you then don't play.

Well parries and dodges are preventable by stacking expertise and those are melee ability theirs flanking on ranged moves as well. which means when kiting a warrior like brang did on the video. The warrior can pull out a bow or gun and get extra crit it just sounds kind of silly. You can't strafe running forward you show your side or back every once and a while which means ranged classes still get bonuses.

[Deleted]

If the warrior used a gun , why bother kitting him , showing ur back ?

Edit : My guess weapon switch for warriors full traited from 10 sec will be 8 or 7 sec

[Delias]

Well parries and dodges are preventable by stacking expertise

Uhh, no, the whole reason I linked dodge and parry was to point out the fact that you have a 0% chance to dodge or parry if your back is to an enemy.

theirs flanking on ranged moves as well. which means when kiting a warrior like brang did on the video.

Why does that mean you have to backpedal?

The warrior can pull out a bow or gun and get extra crit it just sounds kind of silly.

No, the warrior can't, because it's a thief skill. The thief/ranger can, but if he's mostly using ranged attacks.. then why would it matter if you're backpedaling? 'Oh no, if I don't kite I'll be in range of his.. oh wait, he's using a gun anyways.'

You can't strafe running forward

lolwtfdoesthatevenmean

you show your side or back every once and a while which means ranged classes still get bonuses.

The thief and ranger do extra damage to your back if you turn your back to them. So don't turn your back to them. How is this any different than WoW, seriously.
The only difference is they can be ranged and still do +damage to your back, but that's not as bad because you generally aren't trying to kite a range. Seriously. Why are you trying to kite someone who is hitting you from range.

I'm probably done replying to you now, assuming your next reply is as silly as your previous ones.

[terrahero]

Uhh, no, the whole reason I linked dodge and parry was to point out the fact that you have a 0% chance to dodge or parry if your back is to an enemy.

He meant that people stack Expertise to make sure you dont dodge/parry anyway, even if they attack you from the front. So turning your back makes little to no difference since you wouldnt have dodged anyway since the guy wailing on you has enough Expertise.

[Deleted]

WOW, i really wants this game now! It's looks so awesome, and i absolutely love the idea about 5 man content!