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    Quote Originally Posted by golds View Post
    You can't disprove that there is a flying gremlin that flies around and makes the climate change, it must be true.
    You're slowly falling into logical fallacy.
    >>Because having a signature is so mainstream.<<

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    Climate computer generated models - ever heard of 'garbage in, garbage out' NOT ONE of any of the peer reviewed climate models has accurately predicted climate. And as for the IPCC being infallible
    Models have accurately modeled climate patterns over the last 100 years.

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    When most people have doubts about the current propaganda and alarmist "global warming" they aren't saying it's not happening.

    There are saying that either the anthropomorphic theory and/or the "we obviously need to raise taxes to combat it" are things that require a heck of a lot more proof than is provided.

    The debate tactics, employed by some here, that involves "quote"-> "wrong" followed by "quote"-> "u r stupid" is not very compelling.

    As for the showing that the entire world except USA and Canada is on board is misleading. Some are more on board because ultimately they see damage to the USA as the result and don't personally do anything at all even if they signed some rubbish treaty that can't be enforced.

    Other than the sun, the biggest affect on the world climate is el nino, and they can't even realistically explain how that works.

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    Saying "logical fallacy" out of context doesn't make it anymore fallacious than it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golds View Post
    You can't disprove that there is a flying gremlin that flies around and makes the climate change, it must be true.
    feel free to disprove chemistry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golds View Post
    You can't disprove that there is a flying gremlin that flies around and makes the climate change, it must be true.
    This is the game being played.

    This time around they backed it with flawed and payed for science.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golds View Post
    Saying "logical fallacy" out of context doesn't make it anymore fallacious than it is.
    Definition:In logic and rhetoric, a fallacy is usually an improper argumentation in reasoning often resulting in a misconception or presumption. Literally, a fallacy is "an error in reasoning that renders an argument logically invalid".

    You can't disprove that there is a flying gremlin that flies around and makes the climate change, it must be true.
    Out of context?
    >>Because having a signature is so mainstream.<<

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    Another good vid, explaining how cosmic rays, the sun, and clouds play a much bigger role in warming than CO2.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4XYx...layer_embedded

    We should have more thoughtful scientific discussions, but most people on the other side just want to shout down any research. When instead, they should always welcome more research as if the theory of man made climate change is true, it would withstand any further study.

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    Global warming is present. Evidence for it is overwhelming.
    It's official. everywhere, except for the USA. There the special snowflake syndrome prevents the people from recognizing and adjusting accordingly. It's hard to change if you look at the energy usage stats of the planet.
    The USA with it's 300 mio population trails China with it's over a billion population by less than 2%. Both together using over 40% of the planets energy needs per year.
    That means that it's almost natural for them to deny the global warming effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vainglorious View Post
    Another good vid, explaining how cosmic rays, the sun, and clouds play a much bigger role in warming than CO2.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4XYx...layer_embedded

    We should have more thoughtful scientific discussions, but most people on the other side just want to shout down any research. When instead, they should always welcome more research as if the theory of man made climate change is true, it would withstand any further study.
    they all play a role. guess what, we affect all of those. cities will change local weather patterns because of the heat from the concrete/metal. and we affect the composition of the atmosphere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vainglorious View Post
    Another good vid, explaining how cosmic rays, the sun, and clouds play a much bigger role in warming than CO2.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4XYx...layer_embedded

    We should have more thoughtful scientific discussions, but most people on the other side just want to shout down any research. When instead, they should always welcome more research as if the theory of man made climate change is true, it would withstand any further study.
    Reminds me of that climate researcher that said deniers should have their addresses listed and homes burned down.

    It's like a cult.

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    Correlation =/= causation.






    Threfore, pirates are directly related to global warming!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by golds View Post
    Correlation =/= causation.






    Threfore, pirates are directly related to global warming!!!!!
    Pirates don't effect the composition of the atmosphere.

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    But the evidence is overwhelming!

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    Quote Originally Posted by golds View Post
    Correlation =/= causation.






    Therefore, pirates are directly related to global warming!!!!!
    Typical fallacy.

    You're officially there.
    >>Because having a signature is so mainstream.<<

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    Whats funny how people blame aerosol cans and carbon gas for global warming. Sure they contribute but methane produced from trash rotting in landfills is 20 times more effective as a greenhouse gas.

    Ask if its official when that drought sparks a wildfire in your front lawn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HavokHeart View Post
    Whats funny how people blame aerosol cans and carbon gas for global warming. Sure they contribute but methane produced from trash rotting in landfills is 20 times more effective as a greenhouse gas.

    Ask if its official when that drought sparks a wildfire in your front lawn.
    While aerosol contribute to greenhouse effect, the real problem is how they affect the ozone layer.
    >>Because having a signature is so mainstream.<<

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    Quote Originally Posted by HavokHeart View Post
    Whats funny how people blame aerosol cans and carbon gas for global warming. Sure they contribute but methane produced from trash rotting in landfills is 20 times more effective as a greenhouse gas.

    Ask if its official when that drought sparks a wildfire in your front lawn.
    methane is the 2nd biggest greenhouse gas, aerosol cans affected the ozone which protects us from UV rays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golds View Post
    Correlation =/= causation.








    Threfore, pirates are directly related to global warming!!!!!
    This is quite possibly my favorite graph of all time.
    Men!

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    I picked Biden because he may throw Obama into the Death Star's reactor core, restoring balance to the Force.

    Now having a ball on SWTOR!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taen View Post
    Yeah, 90% of the scientific community is clearly just trolling.
    Ya just like how 90% of all statistics are made up right on the spot.

    The earth has cycles. It has had many many ice ages and guess what, there is a term of little ice ages which happen approximately every 800 years or so. Technically the earth has been warming up because the last little ice age was just over 300 years ago.

    Instead of worrying over global warming which would do a lot less damage than the crap we put into the air. Did you know that there is a threshold of CO2 in the air that plants will stop photosynthesising above that point?

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