Is Global Warming official now?

[Deleted]

Global warming is as conclusive as bigfoot.


There is much more need of tangible evidence.

Funny how all the armchair deniers in this thread write 10 word elaborations like this, ignoring all the evidence already posted by the ones in this thread (aside from the scientific community.

Just to not be like the deniers, I'll post a reference too. Here's one that refutes all the counter arguments commonly used by the carbon lobby and it's puppets like Fox.

The good thing is that it is readable even if you don't have any scientific training:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php

[Kennyloggins]

There is conclusive scientific evidence that shows that the cause of current global warming is anthropogenic. The reason there appears to be so much contention regarding this is that it has been used as a political talking point in the US where the regulation required to combat the problem conflicts with the conservative right's ideology. Since there is such a strong left/right split nowadays, it is easy to spread misinformation regarding the legitimacy of scientific data. The facts, however, are still there for people who can put their political grievances aside. In my opinion, the question on this issue should not be whether or not global warming is anthropogenic, but rather what would be the best way to combat the problem.

[achaeon]

Funny how all the armchair deniers in this thread write 10 word elaborations like this, ignoring all the evidence already posted by the ones in this thread (aside from the scientific community.

Just to not be like the deniers, I'll post a reference too. Here's one that refutes all the counter arguments commonly used by the carbon lobby and it's puppets like Fox.

The good thing is that it is readable even if you don't have any scientific training:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php

It's almost as funny as the people whose argument is 'Because it says so on the internet'

[Deleted]

It's almost as funny as the people whose argument is 'Because it says so on the internet'

I agree 100% with that!

[FearXI]

Every time i watch tv everyone seems to have this acceptance attitude that there is global warming. It seems to be everywhere, even in advertisement. Instead of it's coming everyone is like it's here. Yet i don't recall anything official announced?

I believe the Sun has a far greater influence on your climate than anything we do so I won't believe man made global warming until it's official.

So have i missed anything or is it just companies trying to cash in on going green?

Global warming is not man made, I will say it might have sped it up.
It's a natural occurrence. Even most of the scientists that said it was caused by man have said otherwise.

[golds]

There is conclusive scientific evidence that shows that the cause of current global warming is anthropogenic. The reason there appears to be so much contention regarding this is that it has been used as a political talking point in the US where the regulation required to combat the problem conflicts with the conservative right's ideology. Since there is such a strong left/right split nowadays, it is easy to spread misinformation regarding the legitimacy of scientific data. The facts, however, are still there for people who can put their political grievances aside. In my opinion, the question on this issue should not be whether or not global warming is anthropogenic, but rather what would be the best way to combat the problem.

Source? 10 chars

[Catta]

It's almost as funny as the people whose argument is 'Because it says so on the internet'

Your logic also pertains to written work...

Thats why we have data and references...

[MuskiER]

Global Warming is a real thing. It was already scientificaly proven that the only thing humans do is speed up the progress, and are not the cause of it. Global climate change is something that's bound to happen over a long period of time and has happened multiple times in the history of earth already. With this I don't mean we shouldn't take any action to reduce the speed at wich it is happening as we can't entirely stop it though. :P

Really what this guy said, but honestly: gobal warming and chilling is part of earth cyclone over last million ---> billion years. It always change according to the sun, atmosphere/ozone layer, amount of CO2, n etc. There is more than one factor due to it and now you add human and their intensive chemical plus green house effect to the mix, yeah we're speeding up the whole process. Instead of just looking at it black and white, consider the gray area as well

[Furye]

It's almost as funny as the people whose argument is 'Because it says so on the internet'

It's only funny when it's not backed up with scientific evidence, though.

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Source? 10 chars

I'm pretty sure you can find a lot of sources in the past 20 pages of this thread. Don't be lazy, now.

[MuskiER]

Source? 10 chars

Consider the time of when the industry really get started in america as you look at this chart.

https://www2.ucar.edu/sites/default/...95-2010-sm.jpg

[MerinPally]

Global warming is as conclusive as bigfoot.


There is much more need of tangible evidence.

Wrong. To repeat countless others in this thread:

It is a scientific fact that global warming is occuring. HOWEVER, the cause of said warming is unknown - some speculate human activity, but this has not been proven.

Yes it's happening, but we don't know whether humans cause it - and that's where the argument is, because uninformed people say that "we humans are causing global warming and it's terrible the poor rare south american woodchuck manbearpig is losing its breeding grounds"

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Consider the time of when the industry really get started in america as you look at this chart.

https://www2.ucar.edu/sites/default/...95-2010-sm.jpg

Correlation does not prove causation. They teach you that at age 13 around here. A may rise as B does, but that does not definitively prove that B causes a rise in A.

[Zeglo]

Are you guys serious? It's obviously true. Look at deserts, water, temperatures, glaciers, etc. It may not be apparent in America, but it's very true.

Yes, it exists. The climate is always in cycles. Right now we're a peak. The problem is that even though we're at a peak, temperatures continue to rise higher than they've ever been in human history (instead of falling back as part of the cycle).

There are many solutions to help the Earth. The question is how drastic/risky of an option we want to use. Some passive solutions include planting a massive number of trees everywhere. Some extreme solutions include literally flying rockets to spray massive amounts of ozone into the atmosphere (where too much Ozone could be very bad).

[Nadev]

it's puppets like Fox.

So you cite the link and still feel the need to bash intelligence based on what news people watch. You're an internet warrior yourself.

[krunksmash]

3 facts to settle this.

fact 1. the planet IS heating up globally.

fact 2. it is a natural process.

fact 3. humans HAVE greatly speedup the rate at which the planet has been warming.

[golds]

Are you guys serious? It's obviously true. Look at deserts, water, temperatures, glaciers, etc. It may not be apparent in America, but it's very true.

Yes, it exists. The climate is always in cycles. Right now we're a peak. The problem is that even though we're at a peak, temperatures continue to rise higher than they've ever been in human history (instead of falling back as part of the cycle).

You realize how drastically short the tim table it, right?

[Furye]

Really what this guy said, but honestly: gobal warming and chilling is part of earth cyclone over last million ---> billion years. It always change according to the sun, atmosphere/ozone layer, amount of CO2, n etc. There is more than one factor due to it and now you add human and their intensive chemical plus green house effect to the mix, yeah we're speeding up the whole process. Instead of just looking at it black and white, consider the gray area as well

Well, pretty much all those factors are initially caused by human action. Pretty much like domino. the last domino falls because another domino hit it but originally, a man had to push one. Most, if not all factors in the equation, were aggravated by man.

---------- Post added 2012-05-03 at 05:55 PM ----------

Wrong. To repeat countless others in this thread:

It is a scientific fact that global warming is occuring. HOWEVER, the cause of said warming is unknown - some speculate human activity, but this has not been proven.

Yes it's happening, but we don't know whether humans cause it - and that's where the argument is, because uninformed people say that "we humans are causing global warming and it's terrible the poor rare south american woodchuck manbearpig is losing its breeding grounds"

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Correlation does not prove causation. They teach you that at age 13 around here. A may rise as B does, but that does not definitively prove that B causes a rise in A.

Wrong. It's scientifically proven that man acted as a catalyst to climate change.

EDIT: You want sources? Every blue link in there is a source. http://www.skepdic.com/climatedeniers.html

[Kennyloggins]

Source? 10 chars

Judging by your created threads, I can already tell any sources would fall upon deaf ears. Political ideology trumps empirical evidence, that's just how the world works. It is not my duty to cater to your laziness, either.

[starlord]

Wrong. To repeat countless others in this thread:

It is a scientific fact that global warming is occuring. HOWEVER, the cause of said warming is unknown - some speculate human activity, but this has not been proven.

Yes it's happening, but we don't know whether humans cause it - and that's where the argument is, because uninformed people say that "we humans are causing global warming and it's terrible the poor rare south american woodchuck manbearpig is losing its breeding grounds"

---------- Post added 2012-05-03 at 10:50 PM ----------



Correlation does not prove causation. They teach you that at age 13 around here. A may rise as B does, but that does not definitively prove that B causes a rise in A.

CO2 is proven to be a greenhouse gas. humans are putting out a massive amount of it. there is always a "balance" that swings back and forth based on natural processes on how much of it is there, yes. we are disrupting that natural process.

[golds]

You can't disprove that there is a flying gremlin that flies around and makes the climate change, it must be true.

[Deleted]

Climate computer generated models - ever heard of 'garbage in, garbage out' NOT ONE of any of the peer reviewed climate models has accurately predicted climate. And as for the IPCC being infallible, don't make me laugh, bunch of political shysters.

Watch C4's the Great global warming swindle. Open your eyes.