If you're playing melee and having trouble.

[Friendlychap]

Go ranged.

Ranged is literally a joke in d3. There is pretty much no negative to playing a ranged class over a melee, and there is TONS of negatives of playing a melee in the higher modes.

My barbarian started struggling in nightmare, and it's become plain disgustingly awful in hell.

My wizard on the other hand....facerolled NM & Hell. On ActII inferno now.

[stomination]

Depends. Vortex mortar tele fast hurts range. The fact most range can easily die to a one shot. But to play the range vs melee thing with only a barbarian and a wizard is kinda horrible.

[PowerGamez]

My barbarian started struggling in nightmare, and it's become plain disgustingly awful in hell.

You struggled in Nightmare as a barb? Sounds like an L2Play issue not a "class is shit, kgo reroll" issue.

Sincerely,

Act I Inferno Barb

[Friendlychap]

Depends. Vortex mortar tele fast hurts range. The fact most range can easily die to a one shot. But to play the range vs melee thing with only a barbarian and a wizard is kinda horrible.

lol

every class gets 1-2 shot

hence why melee has literally 0 advantage.

it aint like wow where youre taking hits n tanking, youre either kiting and doing a lil bit of dmg (as melee, while taking hits) or go ranged and do massive dmg while kiting while taking no hits

pretty obvious what youd wanna do there

the balance between melee & ranged is just nonexistent in D3

[Huntdanoobs]

My barbarian started struggling in nightmare, and it's become plain disgustingly awful in hell.

You must be really bad at playing a Barb.

Nightmare was ez. On Act III Hell right now. It's tough, but doable as a Barb.

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every class gets 1-2 shot

When playing as Barb, you were obviously playing wrong if you were getting 1-2 shot. You should gear as a tank to survive in the harder difficulties.

[Quenchiest]

You must be really bad at playing a Barb.

Nightmare was ez. On Act III Hell right now. It's tough, but doable as a Barb.

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When playing as Barb, you were obviously playing wrong if you were getting 1-2 shot. You should gear as a tank to survive in the harder difficulties.

There lies the issue.

You shouldn't HAVE to play as a tank. In every other difficulty you can get away with doing whatever you want, but Inferno it's just no bueno.

Takes some of the fun out of the game if playing anything other than "tank" barb is "doing it wrong."

[Huntdanoobs]

There lies the issue.

You shouldn't HAVE to play as a tank. In every other difficulty you can get away with doing whatever you want, but Inferno it's just no bueno.

Takes some of the fun out of the game if playing anything other than "tank" barb is "doing it wrong."

I agree with that. I chose barb, and I didn't want to reroll. Obviously it isnt as entertaining running around with 3-4k dps trying to kill packs of champions, but it can be done.

The op saying the game is impossible as a barb. It isnt impossible, just more difficult.

[Alcsaar]

I half expected to come into this thread and see:

"I feel bad for you son, I got a level 60 wizard and I got none."

[viciouss]

On my barb I just about coasted through hell. Working towards skelly king on inferno atm and one thing that has helped me out tons was to lose my pride. On normal through hell a champion would kill me and I would go back with cd's just to get my vengeance, however on inferno some of the abilities they have plus the fact that they hit hard makes it not worth it (I don't want to say impossible because I am sure a better player could do it but it feels impossible to me) so far ive had to skip two or three but still have killed enough to keep a five stack of valor rolling.

[Aqua]

No. I like my monk.

That said I run into major issues when the servers decide it's time to have a coughing fit, but that's not my problem, it's theirs.

If they're making it so in that split second when I needed to jump kick my way out of a vortexed and lo and behold' Walled, patch of shit on the ground before the ticks obliterate me, the server lags and interpreted my mashing of buttons as a 'when I get around to it' affair. That's not my problem, nor a problem with the class, it's their stupid shit interfering with my gameplay. And well... that's too bad, I don't like playing ranged, guess I'm not going to play until it gets sorted. Sucks.

[Ferocity]

it aint like wow where youre taking hits n tanking, youre either kiting and doing a lil bit of dmg (as melee, while taking hits) or go ranged and do massive dmg while kiting while taking no hits

pretty obvious what youd wanna do there

the balance between melee & ranged is just nonexistent in D3

Don't forget all those ranged mobs who like to cover all around them in AoE and stand right in the center of it

To OP: you probably got pissed by some very anti-melee mobs (like succubi with Jailer+Plagued or something of that kind) and trying to progress without relying on AH. Melee are just way more gear dependant than ranged, at least because they have to take all the hits and kill those nasty champs who refuse to move out of their own AoE while nuking you from, say, the middle of plague-covered room or decide to dance around you with fire chains.

[Dyminator]

Was doing ACT III on inferno the other day as barbarian, and i have pretty decent gear.
I prefer to play dual-wield or 2-hand, but even with a shield and decent resistance i get 1-2 shot by even the shittiest mobs in ACT III ?
Now tell me how that is even remotely possible for a barbarian to solo? not being able to get close enough to do anything?

You are pretty much forced to go with a party and even there you can't really do anything since you get 1-2 shot as soon as you go melee.
It's not even remotely fun to play, i had no problems with Nightmare or Hell.

[Curanhadin]

sounds like you suck at being a barbarian ive made myself a health regenration build i gain so much health from damage even agianst elites i almost never drop below 90% health only against a few combos even then i think i dropped below 50% maybe 3 times through all of nightmare.

[obdigore]

sounds like you suck at being a barbarian ive made myself a health regenration build i gain so much health from damage even agianst elites i almost never drop below 90% health only against a few combos even then i think i dropped below 50% maybe 3 times through all of nightmare.

Nightmare is completely different than Inferno.

[Keltas]

Was doing ACT III on inferno the other day as barbarian, and i have pretty decent gear.
I prefer to play dual-wield or 2-hand, but even with a shield and decent resistance i get 1-2 shot by even the shittiest mobs in ACT III ?
Now tell me how that is even remotely possible for a barbarian to solo? not being able to get close enough to do anything?

You are pretty much forced to go with a party and even there you can't really do anything since you get 1-2 shot as soon as you go melee.
It's not even remotely fun to play, i had no problems with Nightmare or Hell.

I'm on act 3 inferno as a barb too, and as much as I want to use my 2 hander, I'm forced to stack vitality and resist to survive while the dmeonhunter I group with is stacking dex and getting to do massive damage while I stand there and just try to survive.

I hate it so much.

[Jersovic]

I have only played a Monk, but I would imagine that there is some truth to the OP. This is not to say that there aren't some exceptionally great Barbarians and Monks out there. But the average player is going to have a seemingly easier time playing ranged DPS. The problem is, both melee and ranged have to kite in Inferno mode. Ranged are just naturally better at kiting. A lot of the times when I am kiting a vicious pack of mobs, or a boss, I can see plenty of openings to hit this enemy from afar. However, as a melee character I of course cannot do this. I seem to have way lower uptime on my targets than I would as a ranged character, and that I am at way more danger of getting killed when I do move in to make a kill.

Depends. Vortex mortar tele fast hurts range. The fact most range can easily die to a one shot. But to play the range vs melee thing with only a barbarian and a wizard is kinda horrible.

I don't know if this is how every melee character's experience in Inferno has been, but for me, any type of Elite Champion packs' Desecration, Fire Chains, Mortars etc. will drop me in 1-2 seconds. I understand that range can easily die to one shot, but so can your average melee character. I think the Wizards ability to turn invulnerable is more of an asset than a Barbarians "armor" advantage which doesn't seem to help at all.

[Praest]

Go ranged.

Ranged is literally a joke in d3. There is pretty much no negative to playing a ranged class over a melee, and there is TONS of negatives of playing a melee in the higher modes.

My barbarian started struggling in nightmare, and it's become plain disgustingly awful in hell.

My wizard on the other hand....facerolled NM & Hell. On ActII inferno now.

To sum it up:
Ranged is a joke. Ranged is faceroll.
Melee is hard. Disgustingly awfully hard, in fact.

The game is called Diablo. The difficulties Nightmare, Hell, Inferno.

And you want people to pick ranged? Why would anyone want to faceroll this game?

It's like these kids enabling god modes in games and then complaining that the game was too easy and much too short.

[Tehterokkar]

You must be really bad at playing a Barb.

Nightmare was ez. On Act III Hell right now. It's tough, but doable as a Barb.

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When playing as Barb, you were obviously playing wrong if you were getting 1-2 shot. You should gear as a tank to survive in the harder difficulties.

You sir, have no clue what you are tanking about, Inferno Champions/Rares will 2 shot any Barb(that is at the appropriate gear levels, not some Full Act 4 Inferno geared ones) that goes into Inferno. You can't do shit in there without WotB+Earthquake and wait 2 mins for CDs to be back up.

I rolled a Barb first because I wanted to kick ass as Dual wielding, but now I'm FORCED to go tank style, because I can't survive at all. Monks have it easier, they can get resistances easier, have higher dodge and massive healing(although a bit nerfed now)

[obdigore]

You sir, have no clue what you are tanking about, Inferno Champions/Rares will 2 shot any Barb(that is at the appropriate gear levels, not some Full Act 4 Inferno geared ones) that goes into Inferno. You can't do shit in there without WotB+Earthquake and wait 2 mins for CDs to be back up.

I rolled a Barb first because I wanted to kick ass as Dual wielding, but now I'm FORCED to go tank style, because I can't survive at all. Monks have it easier, they can get resistances easier, have higher dodge and massive healing(although a bit nerfed now)

Massive healing? 3k healing on a 20 second CD and a 3k semi-spamable shield (if you have a super-energy regen build) isn't massive healing...

[stomination]

The problem is ppl go solo a lot or forget the templar.

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In other words my class blows because I blow is all i get from these types of discussions.


Or the fact you are grossly under geared and dont use the ah or farm diablo hell.