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[Tolaria]

Ok so here's my ''Budget'' build for current games (wow and d3 mostly).

Case: APEVIA X-TROOPER Series X-TRP-GN Black / Green Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case Product Info *69.99*

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K Product Info *244.99*

MoBo: ASUS P8Z77-V LX LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel MotherboardProduct Info *134.99*

GPU: HIS IceQ X H785QN2G2M Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card Product Info *249.99*

RAM: G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR Product Info *53.99*

HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive Product Info *79.99*

PSU: SeaSonic M12II 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply Product Info *61.99*

Total $884 *With Combo and Rebate

If you know where I could cut for lower price, let me know.
I would like to upgrade this PC in 2-3 years (or when game will need it) with crossfire 7850.
I would like to know if all parts work together

TY!!

[Deleted]

Case - is up to you, plus the case i would recommend isn't available on newegg.ca
CPU - good choice
Mobo - I like the gen 3 I have one myself, but there is newer stuff out there for the same price try this ASROCK Instead
GPU- another good call
RAM - Spot on
PSU - Can't find anything better around the same price.


Overall a good build should handle WoW, D3 perfect.

[hapylol]

GPU- Change to Asus, Sapphire, or MSI.
PSU- If you plan on CF in the future change this to a 750W PSU.
Mobo- Change to Asrock z77 Extreme4, or Asus z77 V-LX

[Korzh]

while 1tb hdd is all very well and good, do try to squeeze in SSD hard drive in your setup (like this one http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16820227706), you'll notice a dramatic difference in the performance of both your OS and the games you will install on it. It's only 130$, and if you've never used an SSD before you'll be quite surprised.

[Bassman]

Just a fyi on the cpu. Newegg has this same cpu for $5 less and a $15 promo gift card. So a $20 savings.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc..._-19116504-L0D

[Tolaria]

Thank for the reply.
@Hapylol: Why Asus, Sapp or MSI instead of HiS IceQ, The 3 other brand really worth the $10 difference ? And Is the 750W really necesary? I've read that a single 7850 take 100W Idle and 200 in Max Load. I am not a pro of Wattage but a 750PSU cost at least $40 more than a 520.
@Korzh: SHould I pu HDD 500 + SSD 120 instead of HDD 1TB? I curently have only around 150g of stuff on my gaming PC. All my video/music and all are on another pc.
@bassman: My price are from Newegg.CA because I live in canada

[Deleted]

Your build is fine as is but since you're buying an IvyBridge CPU you might as well get a Z77 motherboard to go with it.

I didn't mention the Asrock Z77 Extreme4 because you have to rely on a $40 MIR to get it in the same price range, below are good alternatives. The Pro4-m is mATX but the layout is pretty good and you shouldn't really be missing anything too important.

I can also highly recommend an SSD + smaller HDD.

Motherboard: MSI Z77A-GD55 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $144.99
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-05-30 09:07 EDT-0400)

Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LX ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $134.99
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-05-30 09:10 EDT-0400)

Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro4-M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $129.99
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-05-30 09:11 EDT-0400)

As for the PSU, technically it should be able to run 7850 in CrossFire even with some aging but it might be cutting it close. If you can find room in the budget I suggest you get a 620W instead. The Antec HCG-620M (Review) (semi-modular as well) is more less the same unit as the Seasonic (Seasonic OEM), if you can buy it from NCIX you can get it for $75 otherwise it's $90. The Seasonic unit will cost you extra.

Power Supply: Antec 620W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($74.89 @ NCIX)
Total: $74.89
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-05-30 09:20 EDT-0400)

[hapylol]

Thank for the reply.
@Hapylol: Why Asus, Sapp or MSI instead of HiS IceQ, The 3 other brand really worth the $10 difference ? And Is the 750W really necesary? I've read that a single 7850 take 100W Idle and 200 in Max Load. I am not a pro of Wattage but a 750PSU cost at least $40 more than a 520.
@Korzh: SHould I pu HDD 500 + SSD 120 instead of HDD 1TB? I curently have only around 150g of stuff on my gaming PC. All my video/music and all are on another pc.
@bassman: My price are from Newegg.CA because I live in canada

I would like to upgrade this PC in 2-3 years (or when game will need it) with crossfire 7850.

This is what you said in your post. If you plan on upgrading to CF down the road you are going to want a bigger PSU. You could probably get by with 700 but you might as well spend the extra $5 and get a 750.

Asus, Sapphire, and MSI all are better manufacturers then HIS.

I would also recommend getting a Crucial m4 128GB SSD if you can afford it but don't break your bank just to get one.

[Deleted]

Hapy I'm sorry but you're wrong about the PSU requirement.

As for the PSU, technically it should be able to run 7850 in CrossFire even with some aging but it might be cutting it close. If you can find room in the budget I suggest you get a 620W instead. The Antec HCG-620M (Review) (semi-modular as well) is more less the same unit as the Seasonic (Seasonic OEM), if you can buy it from NCIX you can get it for $75 otherwise it's $90. The Seasonic unit will cost you extra.

Power Supply: Antec 620W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($74.89 @ NCIX)
Total: $74.89
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-05-30 09:20 EDT-0400)

And if it wants something modular like the one it linked it'll be more than $5 extra. Either way it can buy from NCIX it should only be an extra $13 for the unit I suggested.

[hapylol]

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I was just ball parking figures. Depending on what PSU he goes with, I figured it would be a $5 difference from 700-750.

Either way, if you think the 620W can handle 2x7850's then I will stick by that

[Butler to Baby Sloths]

It would have to be a damn good 650W PSU for me to run crossfire on it, evne if they are "just" 7850s.

[Tolaria]

Alrighty Thank you

[Deleted]

It would have to be a damn good 650W PSU for me to run crossfire on it, evne if they are "just" 7850s.

(Measured from the wall, whole system excl monitor with an overclocked i7 3960x)

System Type:		1 physical CPU	
Motherboard:		Regular - Desktop	
CPU Socket:		Socket LGA 1155	
CPU:		Intel Core i5-3570K 3400 MHz Ivy Bridge	
Overclocked:		4400 MHz, 1.35 V	
CPU Utilization (TDP):		90% TDP	
RAM:		2 Sticks DDR3 SDRAM	
Video Card 1:		AMD Radeon HD 7850	
Video Card 2:		AMD Radeon HD 7850	
Video Type:		Crossfire	

Regular SATA:		1 HDD	
DRAM SSD:		1 Drive	
DVD-RW/DVD+RW Drive:		1 Drive	
USB:		1 Device	
Fan Controller:		Yes	
Fans			
Regular:		2 Fans 120mm;  1 Fan 140mm;  	
LED:		2 Fans 120mm;  	
Water Cooling Kit:		Corsair Hydro H100	
Keyboard and mouse:		Yes	
System Load:		90 %	
Capacitor Aging (+ W %):		10 %	
 
Minimum PSU Wattage:		443 Watts	
Recommended Wattage:		493 Watts

It's obviously not 100% correct but combined with the chart I'd say it's a good estimate.

[Butler to Baby Sloths]

Hang on, so I could run crossfire 7950s off my PSU? Forgive my skepticism :/

[Korzh]

@Korzh: SHould I pu HDD 500 + SSD 120 instead of HDD 1TB? I curently have only around 150g of stuff on my gaming PC. All my video/music and all are on another pc.

That depends on what do you plan to do with your PC, if you're mostly for games then yeah sure having 120 SSD + 500gb HDD will work nicely. You can as well use your old HDD in the new pc (if it's not IDE or sata1, otherwise it'll prolly be better to upgrade).
I myself have a 200gb SSD + 1tb wd 10,000RPM velociraptor HDD for everyday use and several external HDD's with 2TB each (have 5 of them atm) to store dataz. When I run out of space I just buy a new external HDD.

[Deleted]

Hang on, so I could run crossfire 7950s off my PSU? Forgive my skepticism :/

Pretty much, heavily overclocked it might be close but shouldn't be too much of an issue.

[Tolaria]

Is this : http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16817171039 a good PSU?
Or this http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16817139020, I can combo it with my HDD for $20 rebate.
Same with this 1 : http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16817153151
Or this : http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16817341050.
Actually with a HDD Combo there is alot of PSU that drop in price and that may be interesting. Here's the Combo List http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...ize=100&Page=1

RAM:------
I am not good in informatic. What is good to look when you buy ram?
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16820220562
VS
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16820220558
VS
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16820104173
VS
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16820231314

[Deleted]

The CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 + The Samsung Spinpoint F3 should be a good combo

For RAM I'd suggest any of the following low profile options:

Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8GB

G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB Orange

G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB Blue

[Korzh]

when choosing RAM these days, the performance difference is minimal. What you've to look at first when you're choosing RAM for a gaming rig is memory's latency (timing), the lesser the values are the faster the memory is. The general trend, however, is that higher memory frequency (second stat you've to look at) leads to higher latency values. You've to work out a compromise between frequency and latency and see what best works for the money you have.
I'd say that if you're planning to upgrade in next 2-3 years then you can safely settle on 1600mhz modules with 9-9-9-24 timings
All said, this one looks decent enough to me : http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16820231314
and a word of advice as well: when you get all of your pc together, run memtest86 for at least 2-3 days in a row to see if the memory you bought is faulty. Memtest86 won't reveal all of the problems that can be, but it'll help you at least to some degree, so you can return a faulty product asap
bad memory can lead to bsods, fps drops and other unpleasant stuff