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    Should missed calls be reveresed after games?

    So after watching the replay of the Mets no-hitter last night and the blown call where a ball was called foul when reply showed it was fair. Then a few years ago there was the blown call that cost a pitcher a perfect game. If theres a blown call thats blatantly obvious on instant replay should anything that resulted from that blown call be changed in any sport? I have seen videos of blown calls in the past and its ridiculous how obvious some are. Time expiring off play clocks in football that lead to TDs that make the difference in the game. Foul balls called fair and fair balls called foul that again decided games. The funniest one was the 1990 Colorado vs Missouri game where Colorado got 5 downs on their final drive that lead to them winning the game. If you win because of an obvious error made by the umpire or referee should it be over turned?

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    Should it really be called football when you rarely use your feet and don't use a ball?

    Americans...

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    tekko, let's not open that can of worms, though 'hand-egg' has a nice ring to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beardedcandy View Post
    you non-americans need to stop using the word football to describe soccer. it's constantly fucking up my google searches. get with it rest-of-the-world
    I can only imagine the amount of rage that statement is going to make......
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    Quote Originally Posted by zorg View Post
    I can only imagine the amount of rage that statement is going to make......
    I found it rather amusing, if shit like that makes you rage, you need help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beardedcandy View Post
    you non-americans need to stop using the word football to describe soccer. it's constantly fucking up my google searches. get with it rest-of-the-world
    It's funny because it's only in America you use the word Soccer, the rest of the world is using the word Football.

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    No i dont think they should reverse calls. THough i did feel bad for that pitcher that lost the no hitter due to a blown ump call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tekkommo View Post
    I found it rather amusing, if shit like that makes you rage, you need help.
    Where exactly did i say it makes ME rage?
    Nope i didn't did i

    Back on topic theres alot of mistakes made in several sports around the world and if they allowed the tech to review things on the spot and change the officials call (such as in american football / gridiron) thats a good thing, but if they cant do it there and then it shouldnt be done after the game.
    Last edited by zorg; 2012-06-02 at 05:41 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dramanie View Post
    It's funny because it's only in America you use the word Soccer, the rest of the world is using the word Football.
    Fairly sure he knew that when he said "rest of the world"

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorg View Post
    I can only imagine the amount of rage that statement is going to make......
    It's true though. If you use a soccer ball to play a game, it's called... soccer. Of course going by the "word" description, soccer is... football. Another example of different countries having different words that are the exact opposite of what they are.

    Should calls be reversed? I don't know what this would be "classified" as believing in, but I totally believe that if I said this 1 second later than I did, the entire day would be different. Maybe that's too much of a stretch to believe, but think about it. So if that foul ball was reversed, the entire rest of the game would have to be replayed essentially. If you narrow it down to things like changing calls after a game that would only directly affect player/team stats, I don't even see the point.

    You get in your car at 11:25:03, 10 minutes later a car slams into you. If you left your house at 11:26:03 there's a very, very good probability that you and the car wouldn't have even glanced (if even seen) at each other.
    Last edited by alturic; 2012-06-02 at 05:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alturic View Post
    It's true though. If you use a soccer ball to play a game, it's called... soccer.
    Simple way to solve it is to go look up what came first football or soccer, when the game was created they didnt call it a soccer ball did they?

    Anyways enough debating that!
    To add to my previous comment im all for adding reviews to a game, governing bodies seem to think that its a bad thing to slow the pace and fluidity of a game/event and it will lose support from the fans > getting the call right and not seeing rioting and disgruntled fans for a blown decision(also it would help any dispute into cheating /match fixing if things could be reviewed on the spot.
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    I would say no, you can't possible reconcile a bad call fairly after full time.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbbsytHDp2o

    but then there is that...

    Very famous goal, Maradona punched the ball into the net, goal allowed. It would have been a draw and a penalty shoot out just by the math of it, but who knows the real outcome. The refs decision has to stand during play and can take responsibility for it later.

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    In Football (not American Football) the FIFA states that there will be no video replays for referees ever - because there is one rulebook the FIFA wants to work everywhere, whether it is kids playing in a village in Africa or the Champion's League final. And I kinda like that point of view, keeping it a sport where if you bring your skills you can win, not if you bring the more sophisticated video equipment for more view angles etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorg View Post
    Simple way to solve it is to go look up what came first football or soccer, when the game was created they didnt call it a soccer ball did they
    While I'm not here to debate what each sport is called in it's respective country, I think the BEST way to call it, it's "proper" names is what the companies making these balls call them.

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    How can you reverse a call after the game? There is no way to determine what would have happened if a foul ball becomes a hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorg View Post
    Where exactly did i say it makes ME rage?
    Nope i didn't did i

    Back on topic theres alot of mistakes made in several sports around the world and if they allowed the tech to review things on the spot and change the officials call (such as in american football / gridiron) thats a good thing, but if they cant do it there and then it shouldnt be done after the game.
    I didn't say it made you rage. I was referring to people who would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regennis View Post
    How can you reverse a call after the game? There is no way to determine what would have happened if a foul ball becomes a hit.
    Agreed, however, if it's the last play, say the blown perfect game a few years ago, then there could be reason to change it.

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    If you can't use replay at the time of the call, then no you can't go back and fix it.

    As far as replay in soccer/football/whatever (Really the pretentious Europeans that have to correct the use of the word soccer are annoying. We don't do it to bother you, we just call the game something else. Bloody stupid Americans, right?) there really isn't a way to successfully add replay that I could tell. The clock never stops, so it would interfere with the flow of the game entirely too much. Maybe if they could do so quickly to review goals, but that's about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulous View Post
    Agreed, however, if it's the last play, say the blown perfect game a few years ago, then there could be reason to change it.
    Continuously giving more authority to the instant replay rather than the ump/ref/whatever sport causes the human element to be taken out of it.

    I think its part of the game to yell at the ump whether he's right or wrong, it's just another conduit of expression. The perfect world here is that incorrect calls happen in every stadium because human error is just ever present.

    In the full picture of baseball I think it equals out.

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    Call American Football Soccer and let Football be Football because you know...your FOOT touches the BALL the majority of the time whereas American Football just what the fuck, call it Soccer you stubborn lot.

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