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    Quitting your job to break the cycle.

    At the moment I work 4 or 5 night shifts a week which are 9pm to 7am. It's OK money. It's not minimum wage, but it's not luxury. It destroys your social life as most of my shifts are Tuesday to Saturday. People don't tend to socialise on a Sunday / Monday evening. The manager is a bell end, and most of the employees are a bunch of morons. The job is basically shelf stacking. It offers no progression or satisfaction.

    All this adding up to. I hate my job.
    Nothing new right? Most people dislike their job, but physically going in to work angry and sick because you hate it, isn't normal right? or it shouldn't be.


    I've made my decision to save up another months wages, and then resign with the sole purpose of spending all this energy looking for a new job / studying for a potential new job and getting career advice. I started teaching myself Web Design before I got the job, but when I got the job 6 months ago, it got very difficult to work 50 hours a week and have time to study as well.

    So if I quit, I give myself about a month to get a new job. My full time job will be looking for a job / studying.

    If I don't find a job in that time. I am fucked. I have dd's to pay.

    So, it's a calculated risk. What is the probability of finding a job (In the UK) in one month using at least 8 hours of time a day?
    One that offers progression and enough money to move out and one that won't make my tear my hair out every time I go in.

    Without a degree by the way, just a few mediocre A-levels (ICT, Business and Music, all passed at least)

    Sometimes you gotta just fuck the cycle and take a risk.


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    If it's night-shifts on a variable schedule, have you thought about changing your availability? Save up your months wages like you want, then Just tell your bosses you won't work Saturdays anymore.

    They either let you go or you get your Saturdays free. Either way you end up in a subjectively better position, but it gives you more options.
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    Or, you know, find a new job then quit. Like most people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zuckas View Post
    Or, you know, find a new job then quit. Like most people.
    dat.
    Just look for a new job, if u find one just give your boss the option for better hours/money or you will resign.

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    Well it depends what part of Britain you're from and what area you're looking to work in.

    Retail is pretty bad right now, but I know a few people who have gotten a job in places like Shoe, Argos and JD Sport, the key in my opinion is just be persistent and apply everywhere and hopefully you'll get a job.

    The service sector is really good right now in the UK, I know it doesn't seem that way with all the grim news on TV. I'm in the computing industry and If you do learn how to web design AND add robust and feasible functionality with it (php, ruby or ASP.net etc) trust me you will make a killing, a friend of mine was on practically £150 per hour as a free lance web developer and things have worked out great for him, so I suggest you stick at it.

    If you become REALLY REALLY desperate there are some guaranteed jobs such as a cleaner which are always in need, or even working at McDonald you should definitely get a job.

    My advice is to line another job up first before quitting though, good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankLampard View Post
    At the moment I work 4 or 5 night shifts a week which are 9pm to 7am. It's OK money. It's not minimum wage, but it's not luxury. It destroys your social life as most of my shifts are Tuesday to Saturday. People don't tend to socialise on a Sunday / Monday evening. The manager is a bell end, and most of the employees are a bunch of morons. The job is basically shelf stacking. It offers no progression or satisfaction.

    All this adding up to. I hate my job.
    Nothing new right? Most people dislike their job, but physically going in to work angry and sick because you hate it, isn't normal right? or it shouldn't be.


    I've made my decision to save up another months wages, and then resign with the sole purpose of spending all this energy looking for a new job / studying for a potential new job and getting career advice. I started teaching myself Web Design before I got the job, but when I got the job 6 months ago, it got very difficult to work 50 hours a week and have time to study as well.

    So if I quit, I give myself about a month to get a new job. My full time job will be looking for a job / studying.

    If I don't find a job in that time. I am fucked. I have dd's to pay.

    So, it's a calculated risk. What is the probability of finding a job (In the UK) in one month using at least 8 hours of time a day?
    One that offers progression and enough money to move out and one that won't make my tear my hair out every time I go in.

    Without a degree by the way, just a few mediocre A-levels (ICT, Business and Music, all passed at least)

    Sometimes you gotta just fuck the cycle and take a risk.


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    Very, very slim. Get another job before quitting.

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    the thing is you wont be spending 8 hours a day looking for a new job. I was made redundant 2 months ago and check the jobsites daily and the local paper when i can get it. that occupies about 40 minutes of my time. Once youve got a CV and a few coverletters pretyped emailing them off to places takes very little time.

    Do yerself a favor and find a better job before ye jack in that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zuckas View Post
    Or, you know, find a new job then quit. Like most people.
    Simple perfect advice, the best time to look for a new job is when you already have one. Hell it even looks better to prospective employers, it shows you have your head screwed on and that you are serious about looking for some form of advancement within the work place.

    Look at the job market right now, it's not a case of just walking into a new job so easily, people are struggling to find work, to leave your current job before you have another is pretty reckless and foolish imo.

    I have worked as a night porter in a market so i understand how it screws your social life, you either get no sleep or dont be social, either way don't just walk out without having something else lined up already.

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    Indeed, look for other options before quitting. The thing with web design is, as you know, it's very unsteady work. Not only that, everyone and their dog are web designers these days. You'll be hard pressed to find work unless you can work with databases and do all the fancy stuff. :P
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    Find something before quitting, quitting then looking is just rash and irresponsible. I wouldn't even want to hire someone who did that. You'll also have to explain your unemployment gap.

    Also - unemployed people are less employable.

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    Think it's safe to say that the job market in the UK (South) is pretty terrible unless you are attractive in terms of experience and qualifications. However, there will 'always' be jobs (be it McD's or whatever else). Echoing what most people are suggesting: Find another job before hand, it takes a few hours to get a CV, covering letter and some questions ready. Once thats done, it's less than an hour each night to search for jobs using the internet.

    Web design, IT Support, Development etc are generally well paid, and there are many many jobs around for that at the moment. My advice would be to do something that's a little bit niche.

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    Look for a new job, while keeping the one you have atm.

    1, companies are more likely to hire persons who currently have a job

    2, there's no guarantee's when it comes to getting a job, you could be SOL and find 1-3 jobs whom you qualify for, and not get them.


    As a friend of mine once told me, it's ok to lie on your job application, as long as you know you can do the job, just dont lie about higher educations that you'll have to present a diploma from, it's all about getting the foot inside the door.

    Just don't make up a long list of stuff you havent done and know nothing about, you'll get fired faster than anything, but most new jobs require a learning period due to new systems to learn etc.


    So do some makeup on your application, and adjust it to the job you're looking for, and for gods sake, keep your current job, it could be anywhere from 1 week to 6 months before you get a new one.

    Also use your network, relatives, friends etc to find a job, some companies search for candidates on Linkedin, fill it out aswell with all relevant info.

    And get rid of google searches on your RL name, make your facebook profile private etc. etc. we google people who search for a job, no joke.

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    You're not likely to find a good job when you have no marketable skill set. That doesn't exclusively mean college, it can mean trades as well, but there simply aren't desirable jobs available for people that don't have anything to distinguish them other than a desire to have a non-shitty job.

    You might be able to find something you like better, but it's not likely to have a lot of progression available.

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    I dislike the "most people dont like their job". If this is the mental state you are in when looking for a job and going for interviews, i.e. "I need this job for cash and it might get me higher up, but the basis seems lame" this will ruin your chances. I like my job, so do my colleagues, my brother, friends... The people I know who hate their jobs didn't study, and don't pick up one but continue to whine...

    I reckon your chances are pretty good to find "A" job in 1 month, even if you are forced to work at Mc Donalds as a last resort. But finding a GOOD job will be hard, but I believe if you put your spirit and motivation into it, you will succeed.

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    Look for a job before you quit.

    Now I don't know how it is in the UK, but here in Sweden, if you have a job and you're complaining, you're an idiot. Be happy you have a job, that you get money each month and don't have to worry about being able to survive, not knowing if you will have a home next month.
    Again, this is in Sweden.

    Good luck to you!

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    I'm in the same sort of situation.

    I'd save up as much as you can, and see if you can get any safeguards(family/friends)in place, in case you don't find a job.

    Also try to leave on good terms so that you can return if needed.

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    I have a home near Ravenscourt Park that needs a caretaker if you're interested. We haven't been there in years, but my husband's been yearning to move back to Great Britain. If his pending 3rd DUI turns into a felony charge sometime in mid-July, we'll be moving soon I would imagine. If you don't mind working for some tired, old American homos, send me a message and we'll see about a Skype interview.

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    I go to school and get paid to do so - i love my job - alas this is the final month i will receive payment and unless i get into university i will have to find, ugh, a real job...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankLampard View Post
    At the moment I work 4 or 5 night shifts a week which are 9pm to 7am. It's OK money. It's not minimum wage, but it's not luxury. It destroys your social life as most of my shifts are Tuesday to Saturday. People don't tend to socialise on a Sunday / Monday evening. The manager is a bell end, and most of the employees are a bunch of morons. The job is basically shelf stacking. It offers no progression or satisfaction.

    All this adding up to. I hate my job.
    Nothing new right? Most people dislike their job, but physically going in to work angry and sick because you hate it, isn't normal right? or it shouldn't be.


    I've made my decision to save up another months wages, and then resign with the sole purpose of spending all this energy looking for a new job / studying for a potential new job and getting career advice. I started teaching myself Web Design before I got the job, but when I got the job 6 months ago, it got very difficult to work 50 hours a week and have time to study as well.

    So if I quit, I give myself about a month to get a new job. My full time job will be looking for a job / studying.

    If I don't find a job in that time. I am fucked. I have dd's to pay.

    So, it's a calculated risk. What is the probability of finding a job (In the UK) in one month using at least 8 hours of time a day?
    One that offers progression and enough money to move out and one that won't make my tear my hair out every time I go in.

    Without a degree by the way, just a few mediocre A-levels (ICT, Business and Music, all passed at least)

    Sometimes you gotta just fuck the cycle and take a risk.


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    Sometimes you have to take a risk yes... But at the same time you aren't going to find a job that makes you happy.

    If doing something could cause happiness and absolute satisfaction you wouldn't get paid for it because you would do it for free.

    For example: Nobody is going to pay you to go to the pub with your friends. They will gladly pay you to unclog the toilets at the pub though.

    Going in to work angry and sick because you hate it, is normal. It's life. It also destroys your social life. Most adults with full time employment, see their friends maybe once or twice a month (if even that.)

    Part of adulthood is that the party has to stop eventually. (the adults that party every night, usually have teenage friends that drive them around everywhere, and/or have absolutely nothing to show for their labours which is pretty sad)

    Of all the people I know that have been like "QQ I don't like working, I'm going to college" I can tell you they all have shite jobs and a mountain of student debt that they haven't a chance in hell to pay off.

    Learn to love working. You don't have to like it (if that makes any sense.) but you should respect it and all that it brings you. Sticking with a dead end job for a few years for the sake of resume building can help you find a better job in the future.

    But the bottom line is, there is no such thing as a job that makes people happy and is fun; because there would be a ton of people lined up to do it for next to no pay.

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