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    Exalted Grand items...

    I need to know, if I was to craft an exalted grand weapon, what kind of dps would I get? Is it in the 600-700dps, or the 1000-1100dps range? Is it even worth trying to craft?

    (currently using a plain 1092dps weapon, looking to increase without having to pay 25M+...)

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    to the best of my knowledge that would all depend on the modifiers :P

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    I'm interested in knowing this aswell. I've yet to lvl my BS to 10 but when the decrease in costs hit I will, and it would be awsome to actually have a chance to craft the good weapons

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    Ok but then, it's possible to get 1000+dps with the exalted grand weapons? Or not at all? That's my concern!

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    They're ilvl62 and they've got similar base DPS as other ilvl62 items, so yes, I'd assume so.

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    Anyone can confirm, without an hint of a doubt?

    Ok, well... I plunged. And this is my 1st one:



    It's so absolutely not what I wanted. Unless I was unlucky, and it is expected to make a few to get THE one, I'll chill a bit, now that I'm almost broke again hehe. If not, that's a 1.6M mistake...
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    Yes. Those item plans can yield anywhere from 400 - 1k dps. Entirely based on luck what base damage and stats you roll on each craft. Hope this helps

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    Total RNG. Yes, exalted grand weapons can be over 1000.

    This is the way loot is determined though. First, the ilvl is determined, this step is handled purely by the crafting process, which means you always get an ilvl 62 with these plans. Normally about every 1 in 12-13 items will be the proper ilvl, so 62 for Act 2, or 63 for Acts 3 and 4.

    After the ilvl is determined, the game pulls the affixes from a huge table of all affixes. Once each affix is determined, the stat value of each one is rolled individually. In order to get a 1000+ dps weapon, you will need to roll an extra damage affix, as well as a +%damage affix, and both will need to roll high on their stat values.

    Crafting makes your odds of getting a high statted weapon about 100 times better, as it guarantees the ilvl and the item type. It's still probably less than a 1% chance on each individual craft. And that is why the AH is king.

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    Completely random as already stated, I've made a few 1h swords for a total of 3 million gold or so and got only 1 with over 800dps, hell it was the only one above 700dps.. most were 400-600dps.
    The more you craft the higher the chance of something good but in the end you might end up spending more on crafting than you would on the AH.

    On the other hand I crafted Fine gloves today (5 stats) for a total of 400k and got a 190 int, 16% ias with 3x% crit damage which sold pretty fast for 5 million.

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    Pro tip: Don't craft weapons (at least on softcore).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcangnom View Post
    Pro tip: Don't craft weapons (at least on softcore).
    Agreed, don't craft weapons. Especially 1 handed crossbows, those suck.
    Why don't you want to craft weapons? They're ilvl 62, and have significantly lower dps than 63 blue items, making them worthless.

    Armors can be valuable to craft. 62 rares can still be quite good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caelia View Post
    Completely random as already stated, I've made a few 1h swords for a total of 3 million gold or so and got only 1 with over 800dps, hell it was the only one above 700dps.. most were 400-600dps.
    The more you craft the higher the chance of something good but in the end you might end up spending more on crafting than you would on the AH.

    On the other hand I crafted Fine gloves today (5 stats) for a total of 400k and got a 190 int, 16% ias with 3x% crit damage which sold pretty fast for 5 million.
    No, this is not true. It's like flipping a coin, just cause it lands on heads 5 times in a row doesn't mean it's more likely to land on tails next. Still 50% chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lathais View Post
    No, this is not true. It's like flipping a coin, just cause it lands on heads 5 times in a row doesn't mean it's more likely to land on tails next. Still 50% chance.
    It is true, actually. If you craft ten items you have a better chance of getting a good item than if you craft one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    It is true, actually. If you craft ten items you have a better chance of getting a good item than if you craft one.
    Unless im severely mistaken the craft cost (not mats, the actual cost) also increases per time you craft?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mascotte View Post
    Unless im severely mistaken the craft cost (not mats, the actual cost) also increases per time you craft?
    Haven't paid attention, actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    Haven't paid attention, actually.
    Just checked it ingame, i was wrong it seems!
    Nothing to see here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    It is true, actually. If you craft ten items you have a better chance of getting a good item than if you craft one.
    Depends on your standpoint. If you haven't crafted any, you have a higher chance of getting a good one if you craft 100 than if you craft 1, but if you have crafted 99 and gotten no good ones, the odds of getting a good one on that 100th one is the same odds as getting a good one if you only craft one
    Quote Originally Posted by Histidine View Post
    WoW is great.
    Not sure what game people are playing; I love the way things are.
    What bosses will be in the Deathwing Raid?
    Quote Originally Posted by MauroDiogo View Post
    Leg 1, Leg 2, Hind Legs is a duo boss fight, Wings, Tail, Head and last Heroic mode only boss is his Chin. Totally optional and only for those hardcore enough. It's jaw dropping!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joodoc View Post
    Depends on your standpoint. If you haven't crafted any, you have a higher chance of getting a good one if you craft 100 than if you craft 1, but if you have crafted 99 and gotten no good ones, the odds of getting a good one on that 100th one is the same odds as getting a good one if you only craft one
    Like anyone thinks like that. You know casinos make a killing because everyone tells himself "THIS TIME!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lysah View Post
    Like anyone thinks like that. You know casinos make a killing because everyone tells himself "THIS TIME!"
    I think like that. hence I don't gamble. It's like the lottery, a tax on those bad at math
    Quote Originally Posted by Histidine View Post
    WoW is great.
    Not sure what game people are playing; I love the way things are.
    What bosses will be in the Deathwing Raid?
    Quote Originally Posted by MauroDiogo View Post
    Leg 1, Leg 2, Hind Legs is a duo boss fight, Wings, Tail, Head and last Heroic mode only boss is his Chin. Totally optional and only for those hardcore enough. It's jaw dropping!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joodoc View Post
    I think like that. hence I don't gamble. It's like the lottery, a tax on those bad at math
    Now you're just kidding yourself.

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