Looking for a good .40 calibre handgun

[Rooflesstoofless]

So what % of the MMOC base knows about guns? I'll humour you and say 20%. Why would 20% of gamers who *claim* to know about a fire arm be better then asking on a fire arm website? I'm all for off topic chat but a gun is a kind of serious deal and really having limited knowledge? Really? Sorry If I was basing my choice on basically a life or death situation as the OP said, I'd be looking at US gun forums not MMO. It amazes me how anyone can own a gun without looking seriously at the weapon.

Have to agree with this, tbh...you'll probably be able to get a lot better advice overall without being trolled.

[wickedbastard]

ak-47 obviously..

sicko's

[Svifnymr]

I never liked shotguns, sure you can throw a cone of pellets, and likely get a hit with massive noise/recoil and a package size that's a bit big for hallways, and they're cheap in general. AR15's are also well liked for use in a home, though still loud and decent sized, recoil is not an issue.

For a handgun in .40, it comes down to what fits your hand and what safety you're looking for. Glock, Walther, S&W all make reliable options with a no-frills, no safety config. SIG or HK are pricier and the double action/ single action is a bit more between you and firing the gun. Beretta's in general have the safety and double/single action, so you've got that extra bit between you and firing. (more barriers= more to remember understress, but also that extra step for some folks is a nice thing to keep in mind).

I don't care for .40 caliber, .45 is more fun, 9mm is more economical and easier to shoot. Grasp the guns to see what points well for you (hands aren't the same), make your purchase and learn the tool you get.

[Gemini Sunrise]

Have to agree with this, tbh...you'll probably be able to get a lot better advice overall without being trolled.

That may be, but hate it when people that paint the group with an overly large brush.

[Svifnymr]

So what % of the MMOC base knows about guns? I'll humour you and say 20%. Why would 20% of gamers who *claim* to know about a fire arm be better then asking on a fire arm website? I'm all for off topic chat but a gun is a kind of serious deal and really having limited knowledge? Really? Sorry If I was basing my choice on basically a life or death situation as the OP said, I'd be looking at US gun forums not MMO. It amazes me how anyone can own a gun without looking seriously at the weapon.

Assumedly the OP is more comfortable on this forum as opposed to looking for a specific forum dedicated to guns and then trying to learn from there. As with video games, individual gun forums are generally full of folks dedicated to a particular style, so the answers would be self-selecting/ biased anyway.

More to the point, the folks making off topic posts should be kind enough not to need to post their off topic opinions and clog up someone elses thread, but I guess everyone has to throw something in.

[Rooflesstoofless]

I've always wondered why the 2nd amendment was such an important thing in america. At the time it was created, america only had a militia, so the amendment was very logical. Nowadays the USA has the biggest (?) professional army of the world. There is no militia anymore, so what exactly is the justification of the 2nd amendment?

It's kinda off topic, but this question has always been in my head.

I honestly don't think that current gun ownership laws are in line with what the founding fathers had intended...but the supreme court comes back time and again stating that 2nd amendment rights cover rights of ownership even if they aren't connected to a 'well regulated militia'.

[Honzi]

Really, it's to keep the government in fear of the common man. Pretty much, should they get too powerhungry, the armed will fight back. Now, obviously, they couldn't stand up directly to the current military, but guerrilla warfare would be possible (though very costly to innocents...)

That's a 3rd world argument and certainly doesn't apply to the USA.

[Gemini Sunrise]

That's a 3rd world argument and certainly doesn't apply to the USA.

Sometimes I do wonder...

Obviously I would not be happy if it came down to it, but god damn sometimes...

Anyways, last Off topic post from me.

[warpath2k]

Assumedly the OP is more comfortable on this forum as opposed to looking for a specific forum dedicated to guns and then trying to learn from there. As with video games, individual gun forums are generally full of folks dedicated to a particular style, so the answers would be self-selecting/ biased anyway.

More to the point, the folks making off topic posts should be kind enough not to need to post their off topic opinions and clog up someone elses thread, but I guess everyone has to throw something in.

Yes as your post proves your own point I see....

[blib]

Home defense? Do you live in Iraq? How many times have your home been invaded by armed individuals trying to kill you?

If your home does get invaded by armed men will you start a shoot out putting your family in cross fire?

[Gemini Sunrise]

Home defense? Do you live in Iraq? How many times have your home been invaded by armed individuals trying to kill you?

If your home does get invaded by armed men will you start a shoot out putting your family in cross fire?

The alternative is calling the police (which you should do anyways) and praying that they don't steal everything that isn't nailed down, or worse.

[huey]

If it's for home protection and only home protection I would recommend a pump action shotgun instead of a hand gun. Incredibly easy to use, very difficult to tear up, the sound intimidation can be enough to remove a threat before you have to fire, they are far less likely to penetrate a wall/door and hurt a neighbor or pet. Price is reasonable and a 9 shot spread instead of 1 increases the chance of hitting a target.

I do not have a .40, but I have a Kimber .45 pro carry II, a Sig Sauer .380 p238, and a Springfield XD9 for personal carry. What I carry depends on the weather and what I'm wearing. I've found the are all very reliable and better at putting fire on a target than I am. If we had a natural disaster and I had to grab one hand gun and get out the door it would be the Springfield. I've shot a lot of glocks at work, they have a great reputation for reliability, but Springfield does too. For me the size and shape makes it easier to get on target, for some people the glocks work better. Springfield makes a .40 in almost all of it's platforms and they are usually reasonably priced. Comparable to Glocks but less than you'll give for a Kimber or other high end 1911s.

Find a gun range with rentals and try out what works for you. After you get it, break it in with different ammo and find an a round you want to use for home protection. Shoot a lot of it. You need to know how it changes your point of aim and you need the confidence that it goes click boom and not click oh shit. .40 is a great round but if you aren't married to the gun yet I'd recommend trying anything that's available. Also consider if you would want to carry it and keep that in mind.

[krunksmash]

Springfield, rugger, colt, or just buy an Uzi. altho in the US to be able to apply to have an Uzi you first need a federal gun permit as a state is not high enough priority.

[vaeevictiss]

i like my Springfield xd40 sub compact. Its my carry weapon and would be great for home defense. Although for home defense i have a Remington 870 12ga with a pistol grip, and i also have a 9mm AR15 with a 7" barrel and suppressor so that is a nice quiet entry package too. Although id like to mention i buy my guns more for fun than for the threat of home invasion, but if it ever happens i feel im the most prepared i can be.

I don't like glocks, they are crap in my eyes, mainly because they don't seem to have a consistent ejection, the casings go everywhere.

For the people against using a shotgun, i would like you to be awoken from a dead sleep, in a state of complete disorientation, and try to efficiently put rounds where you want them. Some can, some cant, but a shotgun only needs to be pointed in a general direction.

[Catta]

The alternative is calling the police (which you should do anyways) and praying that they don't steal everything that isn't nailed down, or worse.

You lied, that wasnt your last post

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'Merica !

[Gemini Sunrise]

You lied, that wasnt your last post

No, it wasn't. Freely admitted. But not all armed intruders are out to rape your wives/daughters. You know, not painting all people with the same brush, yeah?

[vaeevictiss]

Springfield, rugger, colt, or just buy an Uzi. altho in the US to be able to apply to have an Uzi you first need a federal gun permit as a state is not high enough priority.

there is no such thing as a "federal gun permit" all you need to do is send an application in to the atf with $200 bux and wait 6 months for your tax stamp to get approved. Plus the cost of the gun itself and full auto isnt cheap.

[blib]

The alternative is calling the police (which you should do anyways) and praying that they don't steal everything that isn't nailed down, or worse.

Are you familiar with insurance? You call the police and barricade you and your family in a room and dont put yourself or them at risk by confronting people. Nobody dies, you get money for your stuff, the criminals have a 60% (depending on where you live) chance of getting cought and everyones happy.

Is america really so savage that people regularly break into houses to rape and kill everone in there? I have traveld quite a bit and the only other place I have encoutnerd that metnality was when I was in Afganisthan. Not even in South Africa does people seem so afraid of this as americans. I have never encounterd a population that is so afraid and generally scared as americans.

[Gemini Sunrise]

Are you familiar with insurance? You call the police and barricade you and your family in a room and dont put yourself or them at risk by confronting people. Nobody dies, you get money for your stuff, the criminals have a 60% (depending on where you live) chance of getting cought and everyones happy.

Is america really so savage that people regularly break into houses to rape and kill everone in there? I have traveld quite a bit and the only other place I have encoutnerd that metnality was when I was in Afganisthan. Not even in South Africa does people seem so afraid of this as americans.

Prepare for the worst. Of course, it's up to each person to decide what their worst case scenario is, but I tend to go full doomsday as far as that goes.

And there is a bit of innocence lost to having your home broken into. Your family ain't going to be happy regardless of what happens.