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  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Caiada View Post
    I didn't know you not getting the items you want meant the game was broken. Good to know.
    Do you Blizz apologists have some sort of handbook for generic responses? "It's rng man, game is fine". "Your luck sucks I get ilvl 63 gear I sell for millions on every kill".

    At what point in my post did I say I was mad I didn't get exactly what I my class needs and that it should be a clear upgrade?

    That's right, at no point did I say that.

    Now, at what point did I say getting gear that people wouldn't use in Act II inferno off an Act III end boss is stupid?

    I'm sure if you think hard enough you'll figure it out. That is, if Blizz's taint hasn't completely destroy any semblance of logic you may possess.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dryade View Post
    Stop crying, how about that? If you can't hack it, get out and play another game.
    How about you stop being a goddamn troll? I love how you fucking idiots always pull the "stop crying" card when someone has a legitimate complaint about this game. If I couldn't hack it then why am I farming Azmodan and Inferno Whimsy 5 times each in a 5 hour span?

    It sounds to me like the one that can't hack it is you. You can't stand the fact that Blizz isn't perfect and it has you so befuddled that the only words you can think to type as a retort are "stop crying".

    Don't like that I can't spec/build anything but pure damage and get 1shot in inferno.

    STOP CRYING!

    Don't like that I spend time farming Azmodan 5 times straight with 323% MF and don't get one single item over level 55.

    STOP CRYING!

    Don't like that I save up 10 mill gold for a new weapon but now the cheapest upgrade is 200,000,000.

    STOP CRYING.

    At what point exactly does it constitute a real complaint and it's not crying?

    Dont answer, I already know. It starts being a legitimate complaint when you take remove your lips from Blizzard's ass.

  3. #43
    I have noticed on the gold auction house good items aren't even selling for half the price they used too, not sure if that's just because everyone is getting geared now or if people are quiting after hell mode.

    Half my friends quit or rolling alts after inferno act 1, they said after patch 1.03 comes out they will progress again a lot faster as better gear will drop and items will be dirt cheap on the ah.

    Personally I am trying to finish the game before the patch because it's like killing a raid boss before the nerfs, a lot more satisfying doing it the way it was initially intended. Currently working on act 4 inferno so almost there.

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    Things will change in the next patch with loot drops and more great things to come! I'm on your side though but I can see the next patch or patches making big improvements =]
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    The combat is good, the gearing up is not ... once you get bored with the combat, just take a break.

    My part in this story has been decided. And I will play it well.

  6. #46
    I got bored of D3 after "exploiting" one Inferno secret place, getting LOADs of loot and nothing even remotely useful to help progress. Profs are a joke. And if people can read between lines, they will see that patch 1.0.3 will barely change anything. Profs will still be broken - developers will only change prices for levelling profs at low levels and mixing low level gems. Damage and health of Inferno mobs will be nerfed, but IAS will be also nerfed (and to higher degree than mobs), making whole mobs' nerf pointless (at least from melee PoV). Adding enrage timer to more of storyline bosses is another nonsense (again - will mostly hurt melee).

    Loot also won't be significantly buffed. If you look on 1.0.3 tables, still majority of drops will be sub60. Even if all will be lv60+ drops, it would barely fix anything, stats are randomized too much to make item-hunting a viable option for progress.

    D3 must cardinally change in many points so it could be looked at as a game rather than economic simulator. As of now, D3 only holds interest as a playing tool to convert pixels into real money and vice versa.

    To OP, try Dungeon Siege II Broken World if didn't yet. A lot of D3's innovations (except AH) were taken directly out of there (same treasure goblin). I admit, some things are done in a more primitive manner, but still this game is very often overlooked and it beats Diablo III in many aspects, imho.

  7. #47
    Not neccessarily siding with apologists, but the game is the way it is on purpose. It's sort of like complaining at a casino that you've dropped $200 in slot machines and not won anything.

    Things DO drop for folks, the truckload of items on the AH is proof of that. The bottom line is that if you don't enjoy the process itself on some level (the gameplay), odds are that you're not going to stick with this game even if you did get the loot you're looking for.

    I've gotten my monk to 60 now, and the game is relegated to something I'll play once or twice a week, when buddies are also on playing. If I get good stuff, cool. If not, cool. Not much more to say about it.

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by melodramocracy View Post
    Not neccessarily siding with apologists, but the game is the way it is on purpose. It's sort of like complaining at a casino that you've dropped $200 in slot machines and not won anything.

    Things DO drop for folks, the truckload of items on the AH is proof of that. The bottom line is that if you don't enjoy the process itself on some level (the gameplay), odds are that you're not going to stick with this game even if you did get the loot you're looking for.

    I've gotten my monk to 60 now, and the game is relegated to something I'll play once or twice a week, when buddies are also on playing. If I get good stuff, cool. If not, cool. Not much more to say about it.
    I understand how the game works as I started looking into the series the day I signed up for the AP. Long before I got in the beta I knew all about it so getting vendor trash is nothing too shocking to me.

    What is shocking is that 5 times in a row I got nothing above level 55/56 (maybe one item was 59, if that). This with 5 stacks of NV and 323% MF total. I clear Inferno Whimsy 4-6 times a night and typically get at least one item I can sell for a decent amount (250k+).

    What's funny is that Bliiz more or less admitted that the loot tables are borked with their announcement of the 1.0.3 changes. So it annoys the piss out of me when some asshat tells me that the game isn't for me, it isn't wow, stop crying, etc...

    Back before WoW became the complete joke that it is I used to farm for weeks to get new gear.

    Weeks.

    I farmed Dire Maul for 3 months trying to get that damned tanking weapon (quel something or other). Farmed more mithril than I care to admit and up until the end of BC I farmed countless minerals and heroics for gear to get Kara ready. So I'm more than willing to put in the time required and don't mind 75% of loot being trash.

    But when 95% of it is trash and the other 5% wouldn't even be used by those it's intended for (level 55 characters)? No, that's garbage.

    Thankfully this issue should be resolved when 1.0.3 is released.

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    Threads like this make me happy knowing i am not a mod .. else i'd feel temped to crush these cry babies with a hammer way worse than a ban hammer .

    Btw , as others said already .. get past act 1 inferno and try to kill bosses while stacking valor buff ... if you can take it to 5 that is .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeroyjgibbs View Post
    Do you Blizz apologists have some sort of handbook for generic responses? "It's rng man, game is fine". "Your luck sucks I get ilvl 63 gear I sell for millions on every kill".

    At what point in my post did I say I was mad I didn't get exactly what I my class needs and that it should be a clear upgrade?

    That's right, at no point did I say that.

    Now, at what point did I say getting gear that people wouldn't use in Act II inferno off an Act III end boss is stupid?

    I'm sure if you think hard enough you'll figure it out. That is, if Blizz's taint hasn't completely destroy any semblance of logic you may possess.




    How about you stop being a goddamn troll? I love how you fucking idiots always pull the "stop crying" card when someone has a legitimate complaint about this game. If I couldn't hack it then why am I farming Azmodan and Inferno Whimsy 5 times each in a 5 hour span?

    It sounds to me like the one that can't hack it is you. You can't stand the fact that Blizz isn't perfect and it has you so befuddled that the only words you can think to type as a retort are "stop crying".

    Don't like that I can't spec/build anything but pure damage and get 1shot in inferno.

    STOP CRYING!

    Don't like that I spend time farming Azmodan 5 times straight with 323% MF and don't get one single item over level 55.

    STOP CRYING!

    Don't like that I save up 10 mill gold for a new weapon but now the cheapest upgrade is 200,000,000.

    STOP CRYING.

    At what point exactly does it constitute a real complaint and it's not crying?

    Dont answer, I already know. It starts being a legitimate complaint when you take remove your lips from Blizzard's ass.
    At no point did I imply that you said that. I said, rephrased, that you getting low-level drops did not mean the game was broken. That's true.

  11. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Justforthis123 View Post
    Threads like this make me happy knowing i am not a mod .. else i'd feel temped to crush these cry babies with a hammer way worse than a ban hammer .

    Btw , as others said already .. get past act 1 inferno and try to kill bosses while stacking valor buff ... if you can take it to 5 that is .
    You mean you wish you were a mod so you could shut up those that see the game for what it is and don't like in some magical fairy tale land where Blizz is perfect.


    BTW, to any and all of you who just LOVE to use terms like "stop crying", "cry more" and so forth...

    Ever hear the expression "It's better to be thought of as an idiot than to open your mouth and prove it"?

    Yeah, that expression was made just for you.

    As for your "try to get past act 1 inferno comment". Look at what I said. My complaint is that I killed AZMODAN IN ACT III with 5 stacks and a total of 323% MF and got 2 lousy (as in quality, not quantity) rares each time, two of which were < 300 dps weapons. They weren't even level 60 so I could salvage them.

    Trash loot is fine, it's expected. However, when you kill an end act boss 5 times with 5 stacks and 323% MF you should get SOMETHING of worth, even if it's just a level 60 helm with 3 affixes that aren't even stats (GF, MF, lowered CC time, etc..) that you can salvage.

    If you think that you shouldn't then I don't know what to tell you because you're obviously so enamored with this series that you can't think straight.

  12. #52
    what i hate about diablo 3 is that so many exploited in the start and got so far ahead farming gear from act 3-4 and now the Ah is completly ruined. some ppl even have 1200 millions...

    What does blizzard do about it ?.. Nada. because now the only way new players have a chance to get further is to use the rmah. free money for blizz.

    If they reset diablo 3 Removed everything everyone got using op skills and exploits. 90% would still have a hard ass time on act 2

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    I was bored after playing for a week.

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    Not QQ, but yeah, we all know that D3 is getting boring...

  15. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by enohpi View Post
    playing Inferno and still getting lvl 50 items

    Does it really matter if the item is level 50 or 59, if the stats are useless? Only lvl 60 + items salvages into inferno materials.

    Find a nice farming spot then blizz decides to NERF it because they want you to suffer

    All of the "nerfed" farm spots, have in my opinion deserved the fix. Breaking jugs etc, should just not yield a consistent income. but rarely give something.

    You paid for diablo 3 and all you got was error 37 (Obviously they fixed this but it was annoying!)

    I think we can all agree the launch was handled badly. But what that has to do with getting bored with the game, i dunno

    The only way to get decent gear is to farm goblins (boring as ***!!)

    Farming Gobo´s is gimping yourself. Doing 5 stack miniboss runs in the same act will always yield better loot. If you cant handle the act, go back to the one before it, instead of doing a "cheese your way" to a gobo farm spot (thats just as bad as cheesing chests and jugs/vases)

    Everyone is forced into a similar build to even stand a chance in inferno

    Speaking as a barb. None of my friends who play barb (around 5) has a build anywhere near mine, only warcry with impunity seems to be univsersal for us barbs.

    Blacksmith and jewel crafting is either to expensive or completly useless DOES BLIZZ EVEN PLAY THEIR OWN GAME?

    This has been adressed several weeks back, and the fix is promised to land in the next patch, which coincidentally is fixing the loot problem (do little poor you dont have to cheese gobo´s anymore)
    How is farming goblins gimping yourself? Considering I need my full set of non MF gear to clear the act I can collect up to 75% MF from NV, whereas I can hunt a goblin with 220% MF. Do you have prove that bosses with 75% MF drop better loot than Goblins with 220% MF?

    At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

  16. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by dragon211 View Post
    Does anyone else feel this way atm?

    playing Inferno and still getting lvl 50 items
    I stopped here, go load up d2 right now and go to act 5 hell. Tell me you don't ever get a +4 strength item or a level 5 item. Most of the items in d2 that dropped were crap. Just like d3, in fact it's the same loot system but because the game has less item affixes than d2 and they removed the chance of getting low level items(i.e. sub 45-50). People have better gear than they did in d2 at this age of the game.

    The only issue is that inferno is tuned a lot harder than hell was and it was much more reasonable to be able to live in hell based on the gear you found up to that point. Next week when 1.03 hits, you'll be able to find ilvl 61/62 stuff in act 4 hell, and ilvl 63 stuff in act 1 inferno with an increased chance of these in the later acts.

    P.S. I'm now worried that the communities gear will get too good too fast and that will make this game stale for a lot more people. At least the people that understand the drop system.
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  17. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Leeroyjgibbs View Post
    Yeah, do that.

    Then you'll get level 50 items with < 300 DPS from Azmodan with 323% MF (including 5 stacks of NV).

    This happened to me not once, not twice, but 5 fucking times.


    @ ALL the Blizz apologists:

    Your words are falling on deaf ears. Those of us that have actually played the game more than 100 hours and have cleared at least Act III multiple times are not fooled by your "rng is rng" and "welcome to diablo" meme's. We have been rewarded with 100,000+ gold in repair bills (overall, not at once of course, at least not until 1.0.3) and level 50 items that even a level 50 character wouldn't use from killing "end game" bosses with 250%+ MF and 5 stacks of NV.

    The game is broken in EVERY SINGLE REGARD.
    Sounds exactly like diablo. Farming endlessly for an objective that seems to always be out of reach. At least in D3 you have the chance to farming the gold to buy the item =P.
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