Low gold income and repair costs

[Torian kel]

Hello everyone

I'm one of these people that doesn't have a lot of gold (currently 800k, had a maximum of 3.9 M once and overall about 5 M, never dropped anything worth more than 300k).

With the changes to the repair costs, i've seen my gold pool drop lower and lower, two hours of play in A3 inferno made me go from 1 M to 800k, without anything to back it up (looted one rare worth maybe 100k, and made 40ish essences).

I try to stay as alert as possible to avoid aoe or range, but is still get oneshoted most of the time from the kiss of a butterfly (Playing DH and Wizard).

How are you dealing with this ? If i continue at this rate i'll be at 0 gold this week end, without possibility of having a good income.

[Darkfriend]

Not dying. Literally.

[Disenchanted]

You're not going to want to hear this...

But farm. Maybe every other day make a pure farm day. If you're in Act 3, Act 1 is EZmode. So farm most of that. the gold is decent, and now you MIGHT get a good drop here or there.

It sucks, but the patch that was supposed to help us in inferno is making me farm all over again for new gear. It's a grind, but one you have to do.

[Ferocity]

Not dying. Literally.

Log melee character or read forums if don't have one.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5889229251#4 - Just example.

And it is hard to make gold in lower difficulties, as everything drops less gold, but you still get same repair bills.

How are you dealing with this ? If i continue at this rate i'll be at 0 gold this week end, without possibility of having a good income.

On break from D3. I don't feel like farming gold each time Blizzard changes game rules in their patches, but still can take it as extreme necessity. However, farming gold on ranged char so you could play melee is beyond retarded, so can't be bothered to play D3 atm at all.

[Cludo]

Same thing is happening to me, Though i'd farm act 1, bullshit elite mob killed me like 10 times in a row and i rag quit for the first time in my gaming history. I don't think i'll be touching D3 anymore. ActiBlizzard have their eyes on RMAH nothing else.

[Deleted]

You're not going to want to hear this...

But farm. Maybe every other day make a pure farm day. If you're in Act 3, Act 1 is EZmode. So farm most of that. the gold is decent, and now you MIGHT get a good drop here or there.

It sucks, but the patch that was supposed to help us in inferno is making me farm all over again for new gear. It's a grind, but one you have to do.

And that is why i don't waste time with "money sink 3" I'm not one of these bat shit crazy people who CAN farm all day and even if i could What would I be farming FOR? I mean in WoW you farm gear for hardmodes and to progress in the game.

Whats the goal for gear grinding in diablo 3? to "progress" in a game i've completed 3 times over only in a piss ant diffuculty, why? it's not like the dialog is different, not like the FMVs are different in correspondance to the diffuculty.

So without a general goal or purpose besides mindlessly farming gear for the sake of gear there is NOTHING to do.

[Nebthet]

This change was really stupid, unneeded and unfair.
Blizzard now wants you to buy gold through rmah, that's the only explanation.

[Hakto]

You ARE aware that if you're dying too much in act 1 inferno - you should drop back to act 3/4 hell.

Farm where you don't die - this is the meaning of 'farm'.

Now that lower difficulties have a chance of dropping high lvl gear, I don't even begin to comprehend what your issue is. You will see below that you have the chance to get ilvl 61 and 62 gear in hell.

Hell - Act III and Act IV
iLvl 61: 9%
iLvl 62: 1.9%
iLvl 63: 0%

Inferno - Act I
iLvl 61: 17.7%
iLvl 62: 7.9%
iLvl 63: 2.0%

[Torian kel]

I farmed A1 already when I was stuck in A3, now that i can fairly do A3 with one death/10 minutes when i'm not careful I have to go back to A1 ? >< Good god i'll know this Act on the back of my hand at the end, i'm sick of it


At least in D2, while their where insane gold repair costs sometimes (charges yipee), we could sell whites for 35k, so it wasen't bad, in this games nothing gives gold exept the AH -_-

[Keosen]

It's not a surprise that the costs are a camouflaged gold sink, basically if you cannot farm like a bot more than 8 hours per day D3 it's just not the right game for you.

That's why you see many people quitting it -started with a friend-list of 22 and now i have 4 active- it's a pure time sink you don't have many options
1) Ignore real life and farm like a Chinese.
2) Accept that you have to pay real money to play it.

There are countless games to play out there and Torchlight 2 is on it's way so if you can't accept any of the 2 options just skip it.

[Cairhiin]

I haven't been able to play the new patch but I would guess that act I is still easy, and you won't die there, so why don't you farm that act for some cash? It can drop excellent loot now as well, you don't have to farm act III and die all the time. Do what is most efficient, play act III when you feel you have the cash to do so.

So without a general goal or purpose besides mindlessly farming gear for the sake of gear there is NOTHING to do.

What is the goal in any game besides procrastination? If you have to ask yourself that question then perhaps you should quit gaming altogether. It's a hobby, if you don't think it's fun then quit it. Or do you think that there's actually a purpose to the other games you are playing?

[Keosen]

What is the goal in any game besides procrastination? If you have to ask yourself that question then perhaps you should quit gaming altogether. It's a hobby, if you don't think it's fun then quit it. Or do you think that there's actually a purpose to the other games you are playing?

When it comes to gear-based games it's all about time/reward ratio.
At the moment D3's ratio it's ridiculously low to invest on, that's my opinion.
At least before you could farm for hours and at worst have a really low income, now with the repair costs there is no income at all, a 3 hour farm could leave you with less gold from what you've started with.

[Cairhiin]

When it comes to gear-based games it's all about time/reward ratio.
At the moment D3's ratio it's ridiculously low to invest on, that's my opinion.

That's a fair opinion but I respectfully disagree. In my opinion it's still fun. I do agree with you that the drop rates are too low but it doesn't bother me that much. Got 2 legendaries yesterday and a set item during three run. Sometimes you get lucky, others times not so much. Every day I get plenty of very good rares to boot.

[Prokne]

This change was really stupid, unneeded and unfair.
Blizzard now wants you to buy gold through rmah, that's the only explanation.

They wanted to stop graveyard zerging but now to stop a tactic very few people were using they have drastically changed the economy. Normally in a game its not a huge deal since the currency is fake but with RMAH it will be different. Since the economy is slowing way down in the game, people with a lot of stashed gold will be making a lot more off the RMAH when commodities go live. They will also be the only ones who can afford the best gear since it will still be very expensive but the newer players wont be able to accrue gold as fast to be able to buy them. So people might go to the RMAH to buy since they have $ but not gold.

It would have been ok probably to have only raised the death penalty to 20-50% durability loss but Im paying 10k+ repair bills when I dont even die.

[Ferocity]

You ARE aware that if you're dying too much in act 1 inferno - you should drop back to act 3/4 hell.

Farm where you don't die - this is the meaning of 'farm'.

I repeat again - do you realize that repair bills >>>what you get from drops even if you don't die as melee? Yeah, sometimes you end up in slight positive. Slightly better if you are in Act 3/4.

And situation is currently literally pathetic for a lot of players who are about to start doing Inferno as melee or started progressing there recently - you can't farm gold in lower difficulty as repair bills outweight it, neither can you get it reliably in Inferno. You are screwed in this broken circle.

I haven't been able to play the new patch but I would guess that act I is still easy, and you won't die there, so why don't you farm that act for some cash?

Because for melee it ends up around even on repair bills. Also I don't think people who still progress pass Act 1 can survive Vortex+Arcane Enchanted+Frozen, which looks to be most popular and cheap combo all over Inferno. One such sudden Vortex - and you are sent to square "-1" (negative 1). Hell doesn't work due to reasons above.

[kharyll]

This is a recurring theme in Blizzard games and it hints how unimaginative and uncreative Blizzard is.
They can't really think of ways of creating replay value for their games. They fear an open-ended sandbox game as if it is going to take its control and kill Blizzard employees one by one like Frankenstein. Therefore the solution they slap on every game is farming or another sort of repetitive boring chore (dailies with low variety, low drop rates, boring gear grinds etc).

[Gsara]

You do not need to die to have the repair costs. Cleared enough to kill 5 elite packs, no deaths, in act3. Ended up with 3 rares, a bunch of 55ish blues a little gold plus a 52k repair bill. I made about 15-20k over all. Not worth the time anymore. One of the rares was actually above ilvl 60, a ilvl 62 790 dps staff.

I dont mind the drops because Ive been dealing with low ilvl drops in act3/4 and pony land since the first week of release, its the retarded repair costs with no deaths that make it not worth bothering with.

[Shuya82]

I repeat again - do you realize that repair bills >>>what you get from drops even if you don't die as melee? Yeah, sometimes you end up in slight positive. Slightly better if you are in Act 3/4.

And situation is currently literally pathetic for a lot of players who are about to start doing Inferno as melee or started progressing there recently - you can't farm gold in lower difficulty as repair bills outweight it, neither can you get it reliably in Inferno. You are screwed in this broken circle.

Because for melee it ends up around even on repair bills. Also I don't think people who still progress pass Act 1 can survive Vortex+Arcane Enchanted+Frozen, which looks to be most popular and cheap combo all over Inferno. One such sudden Vortex - and you are sent to square "-1" (negative 1). Hell doesn't work due to reasons above.

This really is true, farming act 1 as a Wizard who doesn't die: 1-3k repair bill per full inventory.

My Barb friend joins in at the same time, he was reporting as high as 80k repair bill. Not very balanced.

[sacrypheyes]

elite hunting was already boring as mad since hell due to all that kiting/dying (didn't buy anything on AH and feel even less like buying anything with repair cost increase now).
now i'll just leave d3 to those times i'm really bored with other games hoping gw2 will be out soon enough.

bliz bs streak still ongoing...

[rangore]

how bad and or stupid are you people. i think im ok at this game so im still in act 1 inferno. i go to act 2 when i feel i might be able to do it, die, go back to act 1. now if you still die too much in act 1 inferno (with new repairs) go back to hell, it should be a cake walk, put on some gf gear for it, then when you feel comfortable, go back to inferno 1. diablo 3 is a grind, just like 2 was. its not going to be easy, it shouldnt be easy. if you are just ok like me, and dont want to spend money, enjoy farming get gear until you overgear it then blow through it. if you arent willing to do that, diablo 3 isnt for you. but dont cry and moan when there is such a simple logical solution, honostly i dont know how some people survive in real life.