Anaxie's Totally Revolutionary SoO Retribution T16 BiS & Theorycraft

[Fredzilla]

While the empowered seals might prove to not be horrible, that seal of faith is pretty terrible/pointless for the other 2 specs. First pass though, so you know how it is.

[Neldarie]

http://imgur.com/KH0R2D6
http://imgur.com/0r9dLFI

[Fredzilla]

I think my post from yesterday got buried beneath the other discussion and then WoD talk, Could somebody help me out?

I just got LFR Thok's Tail Tip. My current trinkets are Fabled Feather of Ji-Kun (LFR upgraded to 510) and Spark of Zandalar (also LFR upgraded to 510). Which do I replace?

If you use the hit on feather, get rid of spark. If you dont, get rid of feather.

[anaxie]

Assuming we keep inquisiton. Prolly gonna be taking the Holy TV talent. Dat scaling

Also suddenly Divine purpose got... very appealing.... :O HOLY TV SPAM VRY STRONK

I give these first build talents 15 ret boners out of 10

[Fredzilla]

Pretty much. Considering how poorly strength/ap scaled this xpac. Also since attack speed =/= haste, or at least it doesnt now.

[anaxie]

The upside for this coming beta. Blizzard has listened to us frequently this expac. They know what we like now D: THEY KNOW

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The Light Within
Holy
Bastions of Light
Passive
Beacon of Light can now be placed on up to two targets.

Protection & Retribution
Empowered Seals
Passive
Your Seals also cause your Judgment to empower you with an additional beneficial effect:

Judgment of Justice
Increases your movement speed by 10% for 20 sec.

Judgment of Insight
Heals you for 3% of your maximum health every 2.00 sec for 20 sec.

Judgment of Righteousness
Increases your attack speed by 10% for 20 sec.

Judgment of Truth
Increases your attack power by 10% for 20 sec.

already posted pictures

[Tanyn]

The Light Within
Holy
Bastions of Light
Passive
Beacon of Light can now be placed on up to two targets.

Protection & Retribution
Empowered Seals
Passive
Your Seals also cause your Judgment to empower you with an additional beneficial effect:

Judgment of Justice
Increases your movement speed by 10% for 20 sec.

Judgment of Insight
Heals you for 3% of your maximum health every 2.00 sec for 20 sec.

Judgment of Righteousness
Increases your attack speed by 10% for 20 sec.

Judgment of Truth
Increases your attack power by 10% for 20 sec.

Seal of Faith
623 Mana
Instant
Fills you with Holy Light, causing you to gain Faith equal to all damage dealt. Faith acts as spell power toward the next healing spell you cast.

Holy
While Seal of Faith is active, all damage dealt is increased by 30%.

Protection & Retribution
While Seal of Faith is active, all damage dealt is reduced by 30%.


Divine Conviction
Holy
Saved by the Light
Passive
When you or your Beacon of Light target drop below 30% health, you instantly grant the injured target a protective shield, absorbing up to 30% of their maximum health for 10 sec.

You cannot shield the same person this way twice within 60 sec.

Protection
Holy Shield
Passive
Increases your block chance by 10%, and when you block, you deal 2000 Holy damage to your attacker.

Retribution
Final Verdict
3 Holy Power -- Melee Range
Instant
Requires Melee Weapon
Empowers your weapon with holy energy, and performs a devastating strike, dealing 250% weapon damage as Holy.

Replaces Templar's Verdict.

[Fredzilla]

Better quit your dayjob during beta anaxie so you can just sit there and fix ret all day =P

[Tanyn]

Yeah, I figured it'd be easier to read this way. I just copied it from my forum post on my guild site. I guess it is a bit redundant.

[Montoyal]

Really? Yellow font on a yellowish background? Also we already have the images.

[Tanyn]

Well, they were meant to be all in one post instead of broken up since everyone was replying so fast.


Edit: There I fixed the format a little bit to make it easier to read.

[ujx]

I hope we dont have to seal twist righteousness/truth like old enh shamans twisting grace of air and windfury. If we do, I'm quitting.

[Neldarie]

Holy TV will prolly make DP a strong contender again

[Deleted]

So happy we're seeing the return of Holy TVs, Blizz better keep the talent in!

DKs getting defile + locks getting permanent Doomguard, holy shit.

[Vanderhuge]

Not to mention Hunters without pets.

[anaxie]

Not ret related but i have to post this

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STOP HITTING YOURSELF

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I hope we dont have to seal twist righteousness/truth like old enh shamans twisting grace of air and windfury. If we do, I'm quitting.

We don't, it's that crap or holy tv which makes.... everything... scale much better.

[Fredzilla]

The empowered seals are also kind of stupid because it seems theyre scaled to last 20 seconds, even then judge is on a like 5 sec cd. I would imagine (though im no expert) that the budget letting the buff last that long makes them less powerful over the duration which is stupid considering judge has always been an integral part of the rotation and has a cd much shorter than the buffs durtation. If the duration has anything to do with the strength of the ap/haste bonus, its just wasted because of the duration. Who in their right mind is going to go 20 seconds without casting judge? Unless you get the luckiest string of DP procs in the history of ever.

[anaxie]

Yeah, I figured it'd be easier to read this way. I just copied it from my forum post on my guild site. I guess it is a bit redundant.

it's good incase images get deleted anyhow ty

[Tanyn]

Well, seems 10m guilds that do heroic content are getting boned. Looks like my guild will be getting rid of some people as we hold a 38 player roster currently. Either that or we could run 2 raids. lol

[anaxie]

Well, seems 10m guilds that do heroic content are getting boned. Looks like my guild will be getting rid of some people as we hold a 38 player roster currently. Either that or we could run 2 raids. lol

=/ T18 race progression rankings should be interesting now

The best thing you can do right now is close recruitment if you were trying to pad to keep competent ppl for a "25" man roster. It should even itself out by expac start. I'm sure not everyone is gonna survive the next 6-7 months.