Romney and Bain Capital - Lie or Technicality?

[JLima2]

http://bostonglobe.com/news/politics...UTI/story.html

Since the very beggning, including his 2002 Gubernatorial race in MA, Mitt Romney claims to have been an absentee owner of Bain Capital, and that his management of the company ended in 1999.

Now, the Boston Globe unnearths some SEC filings that say that Romney was the sole stockholder, president and CEO of Bain Capital for three years AFTER the day he stated he left.

Liberals are claiming this is either A) a felony misrepresentation to the SEC, because you can't claim one thing and be another, or B) a misrepresentation to the American people.

Conservatives are claiming that Romney was upfront with the details of his Bain involvement, that his MANAGEMENT ended in 1999, but a technicality left him as CEO and such until 2002.

What are you guys thinking?

MY PERSONAL OPINION (I make no false claims - I am a Left-Leaning Democrat): This reeks to high heaven of fishiness. I very highly doubt that it is a felony misrepresentation, because that would just be too awful to fathom. At this point in the election cycle, the opposing party losing their leader because of a felony on the trail? How embarrassing for the country. So, fingers crossed, that's not it.

I do, however, feel that he is lying to the electorate, and trying to cover it up with a technicality. I don't pretend to be a business guru, but I cannot picture a situation where the SOLE stockholder, CEO, and President of a country, where basically the ENTIRETY of his money is coming from, would just peace out for 3 years and let someone else take the reigns. Are you going to tell me he would let other people poorly manage a company on which his wealth and reputation ride? No. I feel like he either signed off on the shady deals, or was otherwise somehow aware, but I do not like the smell of this one bit.

So, please vote and discuss!! Lie or Technicality?

[Deleted]

Romney is a piece of trash. Wouldn't be surprised if he committed a felony.

If he wins in November then there is no hope for humanity....

[Grraarrgghh]

I like the stories of him dressing up as a cop just to fuck with people when he pulled them over.

I've seen a lot of serial killer TV shows start like that.

[Baratheon]

this is such a biased poll that I'm not even going to vote. This entire forum reeks of liberals. Not worth it.

[Grraarrgghh]

this is such a biased poll that I'm not even going to vote. This entire forum reeks of liberals. Not worth it.

Haven't been off the Stormfront forums for long eh?

[JLima2]

How is it biased? My questions aren't leading...at least to me, when I read them.

And I start with facts, and THEN put in my opinion. How is that giving this a liberal slant at all?

Finally - if it's not worth it, you show it in a funny way....you know, going out of your way to post about how you're not going to vote.

[Deleted]

Forza America!
have fun (wonder who gets the allusion)

[Chouzan]

Everything you assert to the SEC is a statement of fact. It's not just some recommendation. If he wasn't managing Bain in any capacity post-1999, he falsified government documents.

[Reeve]

Of course he knew the stuff Bain was doing. I don't necessarily think it's that vital an issue, though, personally.

[JLima2]

Of course he knew the stuff Bain was doing. I don't necessarily think it's that vital an issue, though, personally.

From a business standpoint? He is no more guilty than any other competitive business owner, and I don't fault him for his actions themselves.

I do, however, dislike the lying. Just be upfront and honest during the campaign, you have plenty of time to lie as a politician.

And I also can't stand for the hypocrisy (of which every politician is guilty, yes). Don't say you are totally against Business Practice XYZ when your company did JUST that under your guidance. Embrace your mistakes and the American people will respect you SO much more for it.

Clinton got away with perjury and a free Oval Office BJ, but he did so with honesty. And a hell of a lot of charisma. Mitt is as charismatic as lint (to me, anyways.) I relate to him as much as I do to a jellyfish.

[Tinykong]

Corrupt politicians calling other corrupt politicians corrupt. Classic.

Guess we don't need to focus on the real issues anymore, we can just settle for this stuff.

[Reeve]

From a business standpoint? He is no more guilty than any other competitive business owner, and I don't fault him for his actions themselves.

I do, however, dislike the lying. Just be upfront and honest during the campaign, you have plenty of time to lie as a politician.

And I also can't stand for the hypocrisy (of which every politician is guilty, yes). Don't say you are totally against Business Practice XYZ when your company did JUST that under your guidance. Embrace your mistakes and the American people will respect you SO much more for it.

Clinton got away with perjury and a free Oval Office BJ, but he did so with honesty. And a hell of a lot of charisma. Mitt is as charismatic as lint (to me, anyways.) I relate to him as much as I do to a jellyfish.

I dislike lying too, but it's not unexpected or abnormal for any politician. If it's a lie about something really important and vital I get being really upset, but this Bain Capital thing just seems like a storm in a teacup to me.

[Taen]

Does it really matter? Either way we know he's a shitty-ass dude.

[Grraarrgghh]

Corrupt politicians calling other corrupt politicians corrupt. Classic.

Guess we don't need to focus on the real issues anymore, we can just settle for this stuff.

Hi! Welcome to 2012.

I'm guessing you've been in a coma since about 1979.

[Tinykong]

Hi! Welcome to 2012.

I'm guessing you've been in a coma since about 1979.

1979? Try about 1800.

[Wthrmn]

http://bostonglobe.com/news/politics...UTI/story.html

Since the very beggning, including his 2002 Gubernatorial race in MA, Mitt Romney claims to have been an absentee owner of Bain Capital, and that his management of the company ended in 1999.

Now, the Boston Globe unnearths some SEC filings that say that Romney was the sole stockholder, president and CEO of Bain Capital for three years AFTER the day he stated he left.

Liberals are claiming this is either A) a felony misrepresentation to the SEC, because you can't claim one thing and be another, or B) a misrepresentation to the American people.

Conservatives are claiming that Romney was upfront with the details of his Bain involvement, that his MANAGEMENT ended in 1999, but a technicality left him as CEO and such until 2002.

What are you guys thinking?

MY PERSONAL OPINION (I make no false claims - I am a Left-Leaning Democrat): This reeks to high heaven of fishiness. I very highly doubt that it is a felony misrepresentation, because that would just be too awful to fathom. At this point in the election cycle, the opposing party losing their leader because of a felony on the trail? How embarrassing for the country. So, fingers crossed, that's not it.

I do, however, feel that he is lying to the electorate, and trying to cover it up with a technicality. I don't pretend to be a business guru, but I cannot picture a situation where the SOLE stockholder, CEO, and President of a country, where basically the ENTIRETY of his money is coming from, would just peace out for 3 years and let someone else take the reigns. Are you going to tell me he would let other people poorly manage a company on which his wealth and reputation ride? No. I feel like he either signed off on the shady deals, or was otherwise somehow aware, but I do not like the smell of this one bit.

So, please vote and discuss!! Lie or Technicality?

http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2012/...xit/?iid=HP_LN
This was published right after you created this thread and it come from the well known Right-Wing Supporting group CNN. Also The Boston Globe then admits to plagiarizing the story from a couple of leftist conspiracy nuts instead of from their own reporting, and then Fortune drops the big bomb on the story about Romney.

Story One: July 2nd http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...stericycle-sec
Story Two July 3rd http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...ain-stericycle

By the way Motherjones.com is linked to Van Jones who was the Green Energy Czar of the Obama Administration. Grabbing sources from this site would be like me going to Infowars.com to get dirt against the Obama Administration.

Why trash a man who has been successful? Is being successful so bad in our country or is it evil because he is successful and right-winger. President Obama's campaign can make practically any claim or accusation against the Romney Campaign, and they get away with it. Then when the shoe is on the other foot and the Obama Administration is caught giving $10+ Billion to campaign donors and bundlers linked to 13 failed Green Energy firms(See Below).

Evergreen Solar (Can't find)
SpectraWatt (cant find)
Solyndra (received $535 million)
Beacon Power (received $43 million)
AES’ subsidiary Eastern Energy
Nevada Geothermal (received $98.5 million)
SunPower (received $1.5 billion)
First Solar (received $3 billion)
Babcock & Brown (an Australian company which received $178 million)
Ener1 (subsidiary EnerDel received $118.5 million)
Amonix (received 5.9 million)
The National Renewable Energy Lab (cant find)
Fisker Automotive ($193 million)
Abound Solar (received $400 million)
Solar Trust of America (can't find amount)
A123 Systems (received $279 million)
Willard & Kelsey Solar Group (received $6 million)

[Reeve]

1979? Try about 1800.

Try 400s B.C. in ancient Rome. Hell, probably Athens before that.

[Dazzy]

They're both horrible people with equally horrible lies throughout their careers, not unlike most politicians.

WTB 2 new candidates who don't give a crap about lobbyists, and will try to make it a better place FOR THE PEOPLE.

[Letmesleep]

I accepted that Romney was a liar and that I couldn't trust anything he says a long time ago. The real question is do I really want another four years like the previous four. I haven't decided yet, but neither Romney nor Obama are qualified to lead this nation. It's all about choosing the lesser of two absolute douche bags.

[ScottsdaleHokie]

It’s important to remember that the Boston Globe has been owned by the New York Times for many years now. And it shows.

In the past decade alone, the Globe has had to fire two “reporters” for story fabrication/plagiarism, published Fake Photos (from a porn website, no less!) claiming to show U.S. soldiers raping women in Afghanistan, and actively participated in the deliberate cover-up and suppression of the complete military “history” of the Idiot the Democrats ran for President in 2004.

CNN must envy them.

BTW, what if … Romney retained his official positions at the firm but was no longer participating in its day-to-day operations? Could such a bizarre state of affairs have existed? There is an arcane labor concept out there called a “leave of absence” that might explain it, but of course the Globe isn't interested in pursuing that possibility.