Men have rights too.....

[Deleted]

Issues concerning males are being ignored and are more often than not marginalized, trivialized, or completely dismissed. Contrary to what many feminists would like you to believe, men face many problems in society today. Not to mention, many of the rights men have are slowly being taken away from them. The social injustices of the past do not give women or anyone else, the right to actively blame and take rights away from men today. For every privelage that men have in society today, women have just as many. For every single problem that women face in society today, men face an equal number of problems. But when men bring these problems up or highlight them, they are ignored and dismissed. It would be near impossible for you to name an issue that women face, of which men do not have a similar problem to deal with.

A societal trend, spurred on by the outdated ideology of Feminism, is like a cancer attacking and stripping men of their rights. Much more sound and logical doctrines such as Egalitarianism *A trend of thought that favors equality among all living entities* are not being pursued because they do not suit the agenda of particular zealots. If we are to be truly of equal worth in society, man or woman, then issues need to be tackled much more fairly, and men deserve to be given a voice. We are not ignoring or trivializing the problems women face in society, but it is not fair that the problems or social injustices that men face are trivialized either. Misandry is just as wrong as misogyny. Oppressing men and infringing upon their rights is wrong, just as wrong as the societal injustices women faced before were.

-How do you feel about this issue?

[x_Fiona_X]

I don't really see the point of feminism, at times it can be hard being a woman but they want more rights for women and to be equal to men, wouldn't it be best to campaign for human rights, as equals, rather then just for women.. I might be totally wrong though!

[Dessox]

You're not alone my brother, you're not alone. The dissent from the mainstream, PC mindset of what gender equality is has been changing, and sadly it's going to get worse.

Obama: "Having more women graduate from college than men is what Title IX is all about." (apparently I cannot post links, but google "Oz Conservative")

But, once again - our entire society was founded on the strength of men and women working in harmony towards a common goal, with a clear understanding that our genders are meant to compliment each other, not compete (be equal).

I have yet to meet any woman that is my equal. And I presume the same for all the women I meet.

But, check out this essay "The Misandry Bubble" at Singularity2050.com

Intro:

"Why does it seem that American society is in decline, that fairness and decorum are receding, that socialism and tyranny are becoming malignant despite the majority of the public being averse to such philosophies, yet the true root cause seems elusive? What if everything from unsustainable health care and social security costs, to stagnant wages and rising crime, to crumbling infrastructure and metastasizing socialism, to the economic decline of major US cities like Detroit, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, and Baltimore, could all be traced to a common origin that is extremely pervasive yet is all but absent from the national dialog, indeed from the dialog of the entire Western world?

Today, on the first day of the new decade of '201x' years, I am going to tell you why that is. I am hereby triggering the national dialog on what the foremost challenge for the United States will be in this decade, which is the ultimate root cause of most of the other problems we appear to be struggling with. What you are about to read is the equivalent of someone in 1997 describing the expected forces governing the War on Terror from 2001-2009 in profound detail.

This is a very long article, the longest ever written on The Futurist. As it is a guide to the next decade of social, political, and sexual strife, it is not meant to be read in one shot but rather digested slowly over an extended period, with all supporting links read as well. As the months and years of this decade progress, this article will seem all the more prophetic.

Executive Summary : The Western World has quietly become a civilization that undervalues men and overvalues women, where the state forcibly transfers resources from men to women creating various perverse incentives for otherwise good women to conduct great evil against men and children, and where male nature is vilified but female nature is celebrated. This is unfair to both genders, and is a recipe for a rapid civilizational decline and displacement, the costs of which will ultimately be borne by a subsequent generation of innocent women, rather than men, as soon as 2020."

[Belloc]

You didn't mention a single issue that men are facing. You just said that men are facing issues.

[Deleted]

Men have oppressed women for so long. We deserve to get pussywhipped.

[geewhiz80]

I gotta say if you were to list some of these issues, more people might be open for debating the topic.

[Skelington]

Men have oppressed women for so long. We deserve to get pussywhipped.

Why does Skelington deserve punishment because his ancestors were assholes?

[Dessox]

Men have oppressed women for so long. We deserve to get pussywhipped.

Ah yes, discrimination so that we can correct the ills of the past. If we keep buying the myth of the eternal female victim, men will dig their own graves. However, I noticed where you're from, so it doesn't surprise me that you hold this mindset.

[Deleted]

You didn't mention a single issue that men are facing. You just said that men are facing issues.

He didn't say what issues women face either. Does that mean women don't face any issues?

If you think that men do not face any issues in society today then you're highly ignorant.

Edit: Also this.

[Deleted]

Men have oppressed women for so long. We deserve to get pussywhipped.

That isn't how shit works, being a specific gender doesn't automattically burden you with the wrong doings of previous generations.

I gotta say if you were to list some of these issues, more people might be open for debating the topic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men%27s_rights

Some issues. Sure some are a little overblown there but there're some genuine issues for both genders.

[Deleted]

You didn't mention a single issue that men are facing. You just said that men are facing issues.

Obviously means men don't face issues, thanks for coming.

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Men have oppressed women for so long. We deserve to get pussywhipped.

No, just no. On so many levels.

[Deleted]

Ah yes, discrimination so that we can correct the ills of the past. If we keep buying the myth of the eternal female victim, men will dig their own graves. However, I noticed where you're from, so it doesn't surprise me that you hold this mindset.

What has being finnish got to do with anything?

[Belloc]

It's hard to discuss issues of inequality when those issues aren't even being brought up. There is no topic here beyond "men aren't being treated fairly!" Well, no shit, what else do you expect anyone to say?

If you want to make a topic for discussion, you're going to have to put a little bit of effort into it.

[Deleted]

Obviously means men don't face issues, thanks for coming.

He's not denying that they do, he's just asking the OP to substantiate his claims.

[anveena]

Men have oppressed women for so long. We deserve to get pussywhipped.

Why should I get punished for the way men treated women before I was even born?

[Deleted]

It's hard to discuss issues of inequality when those issues aren't even being brought up. There is no topic here beyond "men aren't being treated fairly!" Well, no shit, what else do you expect anyone to say?

If that's all you got from the OP then that says more about you than the actual topic...

There are many issues that men face, and the problem is that these issues are being ignored. The specifics of the issues are important, but it's also important and worrying that these issues are being completely ignored.

If men have an issue, whatever it is. Then they should be given an equal platform to bring this up and equal respect as women.

[Dessox]

What has being finnish got to do with anything?

A lot man. You don't see it? You're feeling ok with being discriminated against, being shamed for being a man - through NO fault of your own.

Your reply about "men oppressing women so long, we deserve....."

Western society, including the ultra-progressive Scandinavia region shoves this mentality down the throats of their population at grade school.

In the states, there's a nursery rhyme that goes: "Girls are made of sugar and spice, and everything nice..."

Your indoctrination is showing sir.

[Knight Gil]

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...ghlight=sexism

[Deleted]

A lot man. You don't see it? You're feeling ok with being discriminated against, being shamed for being a man - through NO fault of your own.

Your reply about "men oppressing women so long, we deserve....."

Western society, including the ultra-progressive Scandinavia region shoves this mentality down the throats of their population at grade school.

In the states, there's a nursery rhyme that goes: "Girls are made of sugar and spice, and everything nice..."

Your indoctrination is showing sir.

I'm not ashamed of being a man. Secondly, I don't feel like being discriminated against. Thirdly, I see sarcasm doesn't translate well on internet.

Also Finland is not part of Scandinavia. Sweden, Norway and Denmark are.

[Rennadrel]

Why does Skelington deserve punishment because his ancestors were assholes?

Kinda my thinking as well.

Also, I think the reason feminism still exists in our world is because there are many places where women still don't have the same rights as men, just look at how they treat women in the Middle East as a prime example. In those kinds of cases, you can make a pretty profound case for feminism and giving women more rights, but in most civilized worlds, women have equal or more rights then men.

In child support cases, the law favours women in forcing the man to pay child support in a divorce.
In divorce court, the house goes to the woman because she has to raise the kids and men are better at being independent and make more money.
In custody cases, the women get priority or even total custody over their children even if the ex-husband was a good father.
The law favours women, no matter how much people like to think otherwise. Women have it no easier in this world because they can lead rich and successful lives just like men can. The women who constantly complain about men having it easier are the one's who don't put in enough effort and lack the assertion to be successful.