Would you want to live in an utopian society? (read before answering poll)

[Daelak]

As you said: "...value other than what it's meant to express...". An autograph has sentimental value, not economical value; something from my dead grandmother has sentimental value, not economical value; etc. If you think that's materialism, then I agree - no sense in arguing with you.

See you in the next thread. Hopefully, with better arguments.

Actually, if you wanted a Monet, our an original Elvis Presley whatever then you would get it, or you would get a duplicate that looks just like the original you wouldn't even know the difference.

[Deleted]

It sounds very boring, especialy if you're pursuing a career in politics (no foreign policy makes it a lot less interesting). I would be without anything interesting to do, but life quality would be great. Voted "I'm not sure".

[caractacus]

Isnt this the world/society that exists in the movie wall-e. Everyone would eventually turn into a fat jabba, who could barely think.

Well according to a lot of people here that's the dream

[mindp]

Hello everyone.

...I also don't very much like capitalism and greed for money, which seems to be fairly prevalent these days...

... I would very much like to live in a society which strives for total equality and equal opportunities for everyone, which would, i assume, be called socialism...

You see capitalism as greed, where all capitalist societies base their culture on freedoms. And Your Utopia is based off socialism (maybe communism) where massive government controls what freedom is. Not slanted at all. I wonder what those in North Korea see as their perfect Utopia.

[galaxiah]

There is in no way everyone will be equal. Maybe with rights and races wont be discriminated, but there are other differences people have like talents and strength that can't be learned or pretty much inherited traits. Jealousy is hard to abolish. If you can, and people can appreciate talents of others without feeling insecure, then yes this possibly could work.
Otherwise we will have a very "Harrison Bergeron" society.

[Ryve]

No, it sounds like a flat out horrible idea, and only someone with little to no understanding of people would even think to consider such an outcome desirable.

We're using a "for arguments sake" on the government not being corrupt. We're basing this on the "fact" that most people would actually want to work, as though the majority of humans will feel any need whatsoever to contribute to society for mutual benefit... When, in reality there would be insignificant numbers willing to teach, work as specialised doctors, build these machines that are supposed to solve all our problems, let alone supervise any mining operations to ensure we have the raw materials to make these magical robots.

The world would collapse in a heap of laziness, and there'd be few people left who were smart enough to do anything about it. Go push your unrealistic socialist agenda elsewhere.

[Calzaeth]

Off TOpic (slightly): I love the amount of posters in this thread who confuses the OP's idea with socialism^^

I'd probably enjoy living in the society described in the OP, but for this simple fact:

I NEED to be able to complain about something to stay happy. And in that sense, I consider my own Norway to be a Utopia. I geniunely wouldn't want to live anywhere else, but I still see enough room for improvement to keep me occupied with thinking up solutions

[Wikiy]

You see capitalism as greed, where all capitalist societies base their culture on freedoms. And Your Utopia is based off socialism (maybe communism) where massive government controls what freedom is. Not slanted at all. I wonder what those in North Korea see as their perfect Utopia.

Oh, and in a capitalist country, let's say the US for example, the people control their freedoms? Are you seriously this deluded? Every single right or freedom towards which Americans act as if they've been given to them by a higher force were actually granted to them by their government. Governments will always dictate what freedom is and what people can do.

[Decagon]

Seems like a perfect society to me. I don't see any reason why someone wouldn't want to live in this society, assuming that it was somehow possible. Most of everyone I've seen that voted "No" are arguing that it couldn't happen, which it most certainly couldn't, but this is a hypothetical situation where we're assuming it did happen, so I think if everyone understood that, not a single person would say no.

[Kulanae]

The only thing stopping this from happening right now is the lack of an unlimited source of power. Star Trek is able to pull off their society because they eliminated want and need through replicator technology which is based on a source of unlimited power. Without the quest for material things humans have nothing left to do but either sit around and get fat like in Wall-e, or pursue activities for the sake of the activity itself.

Now while Gene Rodenburry thought humans would take the path of challange, and I am sure some will, it is my experience that the VAST majority of humans would take the path of least resistance and just sit around doing enjoyable things and do nothing constructive whatever.

[Seegtease]

There is in no way everyone will be equal. Maybe with rights and races wont be discriminated, but there are other differences people have like talents and strength that can't be learned or pretty much inherited traits.

"If you want to even out the social order, you have to change the nature of power itself. Right? And what creates power? Wealth, physical strength, legislation -- maybe -- but none of those is the root principle of power. Ability is the ideal that drives the modern state. It's a synonym for one's worth, one's social reach, one's "election," in the Biblical sense, and it's the ideal that needs to be changed if people are to begin living as equals."

Ended up being my favorite line from a game, if anyone can figure out what game, good job :P

[Razeo]

Yes I so would!!!

Sounds alot like Earth in the Star Trek universe. War, Disease, Famine, Greed and all the other things that makes the world go bad this very day are gone. Unlike today where most people aim to be financially successful regardless of the means, humans in that universe only live to better themselves and humanity in general.