1. #1661
    Quote Originally Posted by celinamuna View Post
    a)56 (or so)
    b)doesn't have to be someone in guild, fairly sure that there's a high chance that someone on server did
    Search within for Blacksmithing, there's 142. But yes, there might be someone on server who can do it. I managed to find someone who can do the boots.



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    Quote Originally Posted by promdate View Post
    Search within for Blacksmithing, there's 142. But yes, there might be someone on server who can do it. I managed to find someone who can do the boots.
    Only 32 of them for blacksmithing though.

  3. #1663
    Quote Originally Posted by lumenos View Post
    Parry and Dodge will actually want to be stacked in a specific ratio to each other to minimize the effect of diminishing returns. You can actually use the below macro in game and it will tell you if you need more dodge or parry.

    " /run ChatFrame1:AddMessage(format("Ideal pre-dr parry/dodge ratio: 3.597, yours is %.3f%%, if too high reforge more parry to dodge",(GetParryChance()-3.67)/(GetDodgeChance()-5.01))) "

    I take no credit for this macro, it was created by Theck.

    Is there an update to this or is it still valid. If so - in game it gives your ratio as a %, presumably this is incorrect, so what I should be looking to do is to reforge dodge to parry (if no hit/exp/haste stats) so that the ratio is as close to 3.6 as possible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shambam View Post
    Is there an update to this or is it still valid. If so - in game it gives your ratio as a %, presumably this is incorrect, so what I should be looking to do is to reforge dodge to parry (if no hit/exp/haste stats) so that the ratio is as close to 3.6 as possible?
    While the information is valid. It is still not worth it. Basically, if you balance our dodge/parry, that means you are doing so in the expense of haste/hit/exp/mastery. So the gain is not worth the cost. Just completely ignore it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shambam View Post
    Is there an update to this or is it still valid. If so - in game it gives your ratio as a %, presumably this is incorrect, so what I should be looking to do is to reforge dodge to parry (if no hit/exp/haste stats) so that the ratio is as close to 3.6 as possible?
    The way I deal with it, is to value dodge over parry while reforging. Sadly I still have atleast some peices with dodge/parry on them so I reforge the parry into haste instead of dodge to get a little bit nearer to the value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by promdate View Post
    Search within for Blacksmithing, there's 142. But yes, there might be someone on server who can do it. I managed to find someone who can do the boots.
    http://www.wowhead.com/spell=138646 --> teaches : 56

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    You can optimize your avoidance, but it really isn't worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Butler Log View Post
    You can optimize your avoidance, but it really isn't worth it.
    Basically, to put it other words.

    Reforging and gems are like a very very expensive perfume, that you only got a very limited supply of, so you can only apply it to certain areas of your body.
    optimizing your avoidance is like spraying that perfume on your ass hair instead of your neck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly33 View Post
    optimizing your avoidance is like spraying that perfume on your ass hair instead of your neck.
    Clearly the best analogy for such a task, probably sig worthy.

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    Daily frustration:

    Getting an upgrade from 497 to 528. Sounds like a success, right? Not when it is a dodge/parry belt :/ But over 500 stamina gained is so much
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    Had the same thing with my chest. It hurts, but you gotta do it.
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  12. #1672
    Since 5.2 released I have lost about 2000 haste rating and gained something like 80k life raid-buffed. I guess that trade isn't too bad, am now something like 514 equipped.
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    the worst thing is that there are like 4-5 bosses dropping no loot I desire, it's whether dodge/parry or haste/crit. Only hope is for the shared loot.
    on topic, is there any kind of haste soft cap? sometimes I find it hard to use all my abilities, especially if I take Holy Prism. sometimes I can't find GCD for Holy Wrath in the whole fight. sitting at around 9k atm, could get more by sacrificing some stamina.

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    Nah, I am sitting on almost 14.5k.

    Having more haste gives you more globals to use your abilities on, not less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly33 View Post
    Nah, I am sitting on almost 14.5k.

    Having more haste gives you more globals to use your abilities on, not less.
    Makes my poor clicky mouse finger ache though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rawhammer View Post
    Makes my poor clicky mouse finger ache though!
    Stop clicking then jesus christ oh my god this is a tragedy why would you click that's horrible I'm ashamed get off the thread holy tits what the hell man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rawhammer View Post
    Makes my poor clicky mouse finger ache though!
    What I found helped was to play without a keyboard. I inserted another mouse instead and used on mouse with each hand.
    If I needed to type in-game I just opened the screen keyboard.

    This improved my CPS (Clicks per second) and my rotation felt a lot smoother.

    Then you might ask! How do I turn without A and D? Well, that is simple, I simply binded A to left mouse scroll button and D to the right mouse scroll button. So I can turn left and right just as easily as with A and D.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly33 View Post
    What I found helped was to play without a keyboard. I inserted another mouse instead and used on mouse with each hand.
    If I needed to type in-game I just opened the screen keyboard.

    This improved my CPS (Clicks per second) and my rotation felt a lot smoother.

    Then you might ask! How do I turn without A and D? Well, that is simple, I simply binded A to left mouse scroll button and D to the right mouse scroll button. So I can turn left and right just as easily as with A and D.
    I don't have any macros, no dbm, and I keyboard turn too. In yer face!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly33 View Post
    What I found helped was to play without a keyboard. I inserted another mouse instead and used on mouse with each hand.
    If I needed to type in-game I just opened the screen keyboard.

    This improved my CPS (Clicks per second) and my rotation felt a lot smoother.

    Then you might ask! How do I turn without A and D? Well, that is simple, I simply binded A to left mouse scroll button and D to the right mouse scroll button. So I can turn left and right just as easily as with A and D.
    And both ways to turn your character are inferior to turning the camera and pressing both buttons

    When I wanted to wean myself off keyboard turning, I unbound A and D, and the arrow keys. I learned pretty fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MerinPally View Post
    Stop clicking then jesus christ oh my god this is a tragedy why would you click that's horrible I'm ashamed get off the thread holy tits what the hell man!

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