Assuming america does the right thing in 2012

[Twiddly]

And elects Mitt Romney, or anyone other then Obama, do you think that he will change his views from his campaign trail? I know a lot of canidates to, including Mr. Obama, who blatantly lied about several things in order to get votes, then as soon as he took office completely turned a blind eye to the same promises he made (Gitmo, a real health care plan) claiming republican interference (when in reality, he had a majority and chose not to fight for anything)

As an aside, I voted for obama because I foolishly believed he would actually be at least a little different, and I fell for his (looking back now) outright lie of a platform (Hope? More like "more of the same nothing both parties have done for the last 16 years plus)


This thread is not about the election, but what kind of president Romney would be. I am sure several of the more left leaning posters will come in here and say he will be the devil incarnate, while ignoring Obama's train of lies and outright treason, and destruction of the constitution of these United states of america. How many more Americans will be murdered by the government without a trial if he gets four more years? How long will torture be a standard practice for our government, despite lies saying he would fix it?


I personally think Romney would suck if elected. He seems phony as all get out to me, and I do not plan on voting for him as I would rather vote for someone I believe in, even though they cannot win. I know a vote for anyone but Romney is a vote in a way for obama, however I do not feel that way. You vote for who you believe in, not because X party. To bad America has forgotten that.

[Hottie4Hire]

You don't know anything. Obama hasn't really turned against much. He did do something about Gitmo and he did his best to get universal healthcare. I mean, you do realize that the President does not put legislation into Congress. It's not his fault Congress was slow about it. All he can do is ask them to hurry and sign the paper quick once it gets through to him.

And party lines are integral to democratic/republican governments. If everyone voted for who they liked there would be complete chaos.

You should really do some research and learn before you start making assumptions based on hearsay.

By the way, I'm not a liberal.

[Twiddly]

Yes, because having strict party lines are what our forefathers wanted...oh wait, no they didn't!

You have literally no idea what you are talking about, there is no point replying to you.


If you want to lie and say he did those things that he claimed? Then go ahead and lie, I am sure someone will believe you and the political system will take another hit.

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By the way, this was not about the election, or Obama. It was about how you think Romney would be as a president, way to take it off topic on the very first post...

[Boley]

I honestly hope a mod locks this thread quickly, or at least OP changes the title because it is just a flame war waiting to happen because of the paragraphs being totally different in tone than the title.

I would actually suggest that anyone looking for different views of parts of the election and who is making up lies and such head over to http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/ because as baised and liberal as the site is, they do show some amazing lies that happen in the election. As it stands if Romney gets elected he honestly should be impeached right away because of all the lies I have seen so far. I am not trying to say Obama is perfect in any means. I want someone who is not democrat or republican to be elected but that will never happen.

This election will come down to the best of the worst and as it stands right now it is still Obama for me.


As a president Romney would be horrendous. I honestly think he would just run this country into the group (Mind you I am republican, so don't start a flame war) I just feel as if he is one of the worst choices (Santorum was the only one who was worse... heh...) But his current policies don't seem to make too much sense to me right now. On top of that with his tax plan my taxes would skyrocket. And hate me as much as you will, but if Obamacare gets repealed (Romney promised that it would be if he was elected) My family would be uninsured. As it stands my family does not get coverage through my job, but I do and with a growing family that will eventually have accidents and bills down the road no health care sounds like a scary concept for me.



Slightly off topic, and not trying to be rude but can I get some info from OP about the "Obama's train of lies and outright treason, and destruction of the constitution of these United states of america?" I have heard of some things he has done that are borderline illegal but they have been done before by past presidents so most people turned a blind eye, but not much of else.

[Vuljatar]

Now, I think Obama is as crappy a president as the next man, but you should think long and hard before you characterize Romney as "the right thing".

[semaphore]

right thing

Oh, very clever. But no. And not likely to happen at current trends.

do you think that he will change his views from his campaign trail?

I think that's virtually guaraunteed.

[Magpai]

Lol I LOVE hearing people say they voted for Obama and regretted it. I"m sorry, I know it's better than the people who voted him and are still backing him, but for some reasons it just makes me wanna go "DUUUUUUH!!" Seriously though, I'm glad you're not voting for him again, and I hope there's no offense taken.

The thing is about conservatives is that they don't really have as much incentive to lie to get elected. There's still a lot, don't get me wrong, but their constituents generally, especially lately, want less government. As opposed to liberals who have to either promise major government action to their base and then vague, insubstantial promises to try to convert moderates. He's promising the sort of loosening up of government and taxation that his voters absolutely will hold him accountable for, because they're not like liberals in that they're not just looking for the government to take and spend as much as they can with no balance. I guess what i"m saying is that accountability, financially anyway, is a core part of the right-wing platform in America, whereas the left-wing has little to no concern about budgeting, so it's much harder to look like you've gone back on a promise because there's no specifics involved.

As far as his integrity goes, I see Romney's naivety as a big problem and I don't think he has a lot of lie in him. The few times he's been asked tough questions and not had the balls to answers, he was very clumsy and obvious about avoiding the questions. I don't think he could ever be as good of a liar as Obama is. Hopefully I won't turn out to be the naive one...

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Oh, very clever. But no. And not likely to happen at current trends.



I think that's virtually guaraunteed.

Make claims and give no reasons. I mean it's so obvious that you don't really have to, right?

Oh and as far as parties go, it sucks that the system we have is in place, but as long as there's people on the left who unite under their individual crusades for other people's money and/or government regulations in their sector of interest and/or general special privileges for anyone who can make themselves out to be a minority, there will always be the need for a unified party against all that to stop them. It's unfortunate but life isn't perfect.

[Twiddly]

So once again someone spends half a post talking about the election itself, and talking about Obama, when this thread is not about him. Keep it up though, at least I was productive in my OP.


Something you do not agree with? "LOCK IT MODS QUICK! IDENTICAL THREAD THAT IS POSITIVE FOR OBAMA? LEAVE IT OPEN FOREVER!!!!! FAIR!~!!!!!!!"

[Olo]

I wonder how many threads about the US election we can fit on page one.

[Twiddly]

Now, I think Obama is as crappy a president as the next man, but you should think long and hard before you characterize Romney as "the right thing".

At this point, anything but Obama is the right thing. He is an outright criminal and should be arrested today, for murder.

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I wonder how many threads about the US election we can fit on page one.

I wonder why the ones that are positive for Obama are left open.

[semaphore]

Make claims and give no reasons. I mean it's so obvious that you don't really have to, right?

Which part do you need reasons to? Because the latter really is pretty obvious to anyone who's tried looking at Romney.

[Garnier Fructis]

Well Romney so far is promising that he'll remove the Affordable Care Act, but unless I see where he stands on these, I won't be able to get a feel for how good he would be as president:
1) No more lifetime/annual insurance coverage limits under the ACA
2) No more denial/exclusion based on preexisting conditions
3) Harder to rescind policies (some companies currently try hard to find reasons to rescind policies on costly patients)
I won't be able to get a feel for how good he would be as president.

If he doesn't preserve these parts of the ACA after removing the law, then he will be the biggest scumbag in recent history. In fact, I find his lack of a well defined alternative plan to be a pretty big minus right now.

[Deleted]

Even if the current POTUS was Osama Bin Laden, any republican choice would still be the wrong one.

[Twiddly]

Well Romney so far is promising that he'll remove the Affordable Care Act, but unless I see where he stands on these, I won't be able to get a feel for how good he would be as president:
1) No more lifetime/annual insurance coverage limits under the ACA
2) No more denial/exclusion based on preexisting conditions
3) Harder to rescind policies (some companies currently try hard to find reasons to rescind policies on costly patients)
I won't be able to get a feel for how good he would be as president.

If he doesn't preserve these parts of the ACA after removing the law, then he will be the biggest scumbag in recent history.

I wish our next president would destroy ACA as soon as they took office, and put in real universal health care that will not destroy our medical system. But that will never happen, as long as the insuranace companies dump money at all candiates.

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Even if the current POTUS was Osama Bin Laden, any republican choice would still be the wrong one.

This thread is not about the election, it is about how romney would be as a president. Also, as someone from finland all you know about our politics is what you hear from the liberal media.

[Beavis]

And elects Mitt Romney

Stopped reading there.

[Logonov]

sorry, were going into the polls this november with the choice between two bowls of crap. It doesnt take a lot to realise that.

[Magpai]

Which part do you need reasons to? Because the latter really is pretty obvious to anyone who's tried looking at Romney.

Exactly, it's really obvious, which is why you shouldn't need to give reasons. Not QUITE so obvious to avoid making the claim in the first place though, apparently

[semaphore]

Exactly, it's really obvious, which is why you shouldn't need to give reasons. Not QUITE so obvious to avoid making the claim in the first place though, apparently

The OP asked a question, I responded. Not sure why that's worth commenting on at all to begin with, but okay...

[Lolvanish]

Saw "elect romney" and quickly stopped reading anything else you had to say.

[Twiddly]

sorry, were going into the polls this november with the choice between two bowls of crap. It doesnt take a lot to realise that.

I would go beyond "two bowls of crap" and say we are going to the polls with two catastrophes of justice that is making george washington roll over in his grave.