Incoming 1.04 and gearing

[nightshark]

With 1.04 on the way, we know there are going to be changes to legendaries and skills but don't know what yet.

This could make some current gear redundant and see some large price drops in pre 1.04 legendaries.

Is anyone else worried about this? I feel like keeping my nat's set is a big gamble because
1) It could get nerfed
2) The new nat's could be better

or

3) It might stay the same and skyrocket in price over time because it's "prepatch"

[Deleted]

With 1.04 on the way, we know there are going to be changes to legendaries and skills but don't know what yet.

This could make some current gear redundant and see some large price drops in pre 1.04 legendaries.

Is anyone else worried about this? I feel like keeping my nat's set is a big gamble because
1) It could get nerfed
2) The new nat's could be better

or

3) It might stay the same and skyrocket in price over time because it's "prepatch"

I think option #3 is the most unlikely scenario so be prepared for #1 & #2.

[chadwix]

Nats is a set, not a legendary.

They already said they arent touching the nats 4pc bonus (what makes it so good).

2 disc per sec regen is always going to be good, reguardless of what they change.

[Riptide]

Nats is a set, not a legendary.

They already said they arent touching the nats 4pc bonus (what makes it so good).

2 disc per sec regen is always going to be good, reguardless of what they change.

You do know for all intents and purposes legendary= set.

2 disc might be good but the set itself sucks aside from the bonuses. If they moved that regen to the set pieces themselves and change the bonus.. well you can see how it might not be as good as you had thought it would.

edit* thx Mormolyce

[Redblade]

I think anyone expecting über legendary items in 1.04 will be sorely disappointed, my guess is that they will be on par with good legendary items that we have now just less random in their stats distribution and some new funky proc mechanics, and better base damage on legendary weapons overall.

[Riptide]

I think anyone expecting über legendary items in 1.04 will be sorely disappointed, my guess is that they will be on par with good legendary items that we have now just less random in their stats distribution and some new funky proc mechanics, and better base damage on legendary weapons overall.

I think they will be as good as they were in d2. Good enough to get by and hold you over until you got that rare/crafted(or runeword after 1.10) item you were really after. However, I do have a different concern with those funky procs. I am going to go ahead and assume that at least one will be undervalued and be too good. Making it very hard to upgrade.

Here's hoping for a ias/life steal/magic find helm called stealskull

I also expect weapon damage to be around the 900-950 range for 1 handers and 2 handers(non bows) being 1250+ with their new affixes.

[darklogrus]

Nats is a set, not a legendary.

They already said they arent touching the nats 4pc bonus (what makes it so good).

2 disc per sec regen is always going to be good, reguardless of what they change.

lol, Blizzard always says they wont mess with something but they always do. Might night be this patch, but the Nat nerf will come.

[Resentful]

lol, Blizzard always says they wont mess with something but they always do. Might night be this patch, but the Nat nerf will come.

They stated they aren't doing a single thing about nats; However the new nats set MIGHT change thus the old one will remain ''Good'' hell even the new one can be better

I'd find the blue post but I'm quite lazy atm

[nightshark]

They stated they aren't doing a single thing about nats; However the new nats set MIGHT change thus the old one will remain ''Good'' hell even the new one can be better

I'd find the blue post but I'm quite lazy atm

Blizz did say that they wouldn't change it, however in a later post it sounded like it was a possibility.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/top...1881917?page=1

Yeah that was an unintentional change in 1.0.3, and we've been aware of it. We're not quite sure what we're going to do yet. We're a bit apprehensive because we really don't want to keep fiddling with people's items, even though this makes the set quite good. On the other end, it was an unintended change and so correcting it isn't quite the same as fiddling. In any case, it hasn't been discussed fully and so we don't know yet, and probably won't know exactly what we'll do until next week.

If I'm not mistaken, that was the last word on the matter.

If this set is nerfed and loses its value, that's pretty much 1/3 of my wealth gone in 1 patch. Ditto if the new legendaries blow nat's out of the water, pretty much.

[Mormolyce]

I won't be losing sleep over the possibility of new, better items in the game.

You do know for all intensive purposes legendary= set.

2 disc might be good but the set itself sucks aside from the bonuses. If they moved that regen to the set pieces themselves and change the bonus.. well you can see how it might not be as good as you had thought it would.

All intents and purposes.

I don't think they'll be changing the set, the much more likely issue would be it being outclassed by some new legendaries. Among which will undoubtedly be some OP bonuses.

[Riptide]

Blizz did say that they wouldn't change it, however in a later post it sounded like it was a possibility.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/top...1881917?page=1

There was a quote after that, which is what I think Apathy was referring to.

I won't be losing sleep over the possibility of new, better items in the game.



All intents and purposes.

I don't think they'll be changing the set, the much more likely issue would be it being outclassed by some new legendaries. Among which will undoubtedly be some OP bonuses.

yea that sorry, I heard it somewhere and english isn't my first language. Just remembered it wrong

[Resentful]

There was a quote after that, which is what I think Apathy was referring to.

Correct; Hence I doubt they will do anything less they want to piss more players and make them leave which is bad

[Roar-Powah]

@ the OP Number 2 seems more likely all set items will be better come 1.04 since there will not be so much garbage stats on them like now.

Edit: They will not change the 4 piece set bonus on Nats, blizz said that they wouldn't and i don't think Blizz will want to crate more backlash on items like the attack speed nerf did.

[Deleted]

@ the OP Number 2 seems more likely all set items will be better come 1.04 since there will not be so much garbage stats on them like now.

Edit: They will not change the 4 piece set bonus on Nats, blizz said that they wouldn't and i don't think Blizz will want to crate more backlash on items like the attack speed nerf did.

Read above the Bashioks post, it's well within the limit of possibilities that they will change the old Nats.

[abijax]

He posted it won't change but new set might have different bonuses.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5911883850#3

[Deleted]

I wonder how much they will buff the legendary weapons. Skorn and Grandfather for example, is 61 now - if they only jump to ilvl 62 they will prolly still be inferior to rares. Azure wrath and Schaefers with strong rolls, migth become BIS weapons.

Allso curios about how much twohanders are being buffed.
If the new affix set is a double up on onehanders - would make some extremely valuable twohanders. Doomhammer with 1200-1900 wep dmg , 4-500 strenght and 200 crit dmg - and, maybe, two sockets ? Yes plz.

Btw - the dmg buff to ilvl 62 weapons, could potential make weapon crafting a seriouz bizz...

[Resentful]

I wonder how much they will buff the legendary weapons. Skorn and Grandfather for example, is 61 now - if they only jump to ilvl 62 they will prolly still be inferior to rares. Azure wrath and Schaefers with strong rolls, migth become BIS weapons.

Allso curios about how much twohanders are being buffed.
If the new affix set is a double up on onehanders - would make some extremely valuable twohanders. Doomhammer with 1200-1900 wep dmg , 4-500 strenght and 200 crit dmg - and, maybe, two sockets ? Yes plz.

Btw - the dmg buff to ilvl 62 weapons, could potential make weapon crafting a seriouz bizz...

Likely useless into actually likely the chance of you NOT replacing it in most cases just like D2 cept D2 had X suffix that could of been random a number

Titans Revenge
- Damage component here rolling 100-150%

WTS Perfect Titans Revenge 150%

Like this

[Martyi06]

I can't wait for 1.0.4 patch It will be easy for coop =)

[darklogrus]

Read above the Bashioks post, it's well within the limit of possibilities that they will change the old Nats.

Ive played enough Wow and D3 to know that anything is possible including going back on what they say. Like I said earlier, may not change this patch but once Pvp is in play and no other armor sets can match what Nats has to offer, look for a swarm of other classes in the DH sections crying for the Nats nerf and it will happen.

[Riptide]

Ive played enough Wow and D3 to know that anything is possible including going back on what they say. Like I said earlier, may not change this patch but once Pvp is in play and no other armor sets can match what Nats has to offer, look for a swarm of other classes in the DH sections crying for the Nats nerf and it will happen.

Right but like I was saying, if they add resource regen on the legendaries instead of on the bonus.. well that changes it completely.