High school valedictorian denied diploma for saying "hell" in speech.

[Adam Jensen]

Wait.

Does anyone else notice the irony here? The word "hell" is enough to block a girl from receiving her diploma, but the school's mascot is a devil?

[Kreyzor]

Wait.

Does anyone else notice the irony here? The word "hell" is enough to block a girl from receiving her diploma, but the school's mascot is a devil?

I was wondering if anyone else noticed this also. It's almost too good to be real.

[Sam the Wiser]

What? Public school officials given vast amount of mostly unregulated autocratic power are abusing it? Never heard of something like this happening before.

This pretty much

[monostat]

Is the rule fucking stupid, you betch'ya.
Did she know about he rule, sure did.
Did she turn in a copy of her speech with the word heck in place of hell, fuck ya she did
Did she knowingly give the speech with the word she knew not use, damn skippy
Should she just own up to her fuck up and display some personal responsibility, bet your sweet ass

The rule is dumb, she is equally as dumb for knowingly breaking it. Write your apology and move on.

[haxartus]

Schools have too much power. That's the problem.
The things I've done in High School... If I was from the US, I'd probably be expelled 10 times over. And yet, I turned out just fine.

[Deleted]

Urgh, I've literally found something that could siphon IQ points...

[Sincados]

Hell is a real place; It is a small village in Stjørdal, Norway, and ironically one of the coldest places to live. I don't see whats wrong about mentioning the name of a Norwegian town in a speech...

There is also a very, very small town here in Michigan called Hell. It's huge with bikers - ride through Hell. Also, the run through Hell, etc. A real lovely place. Can even be mayor for a day.

It seems like a silly matter though, but context is misconstrued so often nowadays.

[s_bushido]

Is the rule fucking stupid, you betch'ya.
Did she know about he rule, sure did.
Did she turn in a copy of her speech with the word heck in place of hell, fuck ya she did
Did she knowingly give the speech with the word she knew not use, damn skippy
Should she just own up to her fuck up and display some personal responsibility, bet your sweet ass

The rule is dumb, she is equally as dumb for knowingly breaking it. Write your apology and move on.

Is there an actual rule being enforced here, or just someone with a little power being a dumbass?

[Seranthor]

Apoligize... then enjoy the morning show circuit... and while you are at it actively campaign to have anyone from the school admin removed for cause, (find something and publicize it) AND sue them for damages.

[shise]

This is incredible.. they obviously just wanted to screw her and they found this... "chance(?)" ?

[monostat]

Is there an actual rule being enforced here, or just someone with a little power being a dumbass?

Every county is different but I know when I graduated we were told any funny business on stage, including cussing, would result in them holding our diplomas. She even edited the speech she turned in for approval with the word heck, you have to assume she knew the rules.

[Dedweight]

Is there an actual rule being enforced here, or just someone with a little power being a dumbass?

I'm not so sure if there is, I looked over the schools "Student Agenda Handbook" and I'm not seeing anything in there in regards to cussing. I could understand if she used a swear word every sentence or something but if it was a one time thing I don't really see the problem.

[Lilly32]

freedom of speech....enjoy your lawsuit. already made a phat paycheck and havevnt even started college lol.

after seeing the context in which it was used I would have said fuck.

[Sidewinder]

A high school diploma that is being denied to her is symbolic of her degree needed for graduation. It is just a piece of ceremonial bullshit. On paper/in the computer at the state department of education is an official transcript that states her academic completion of her studies. Don't give her a piece of paper, who cares, shes graduated and has her diploma as far as its all concerned.

[dantian]

Hell is a real place; It is a small village in Stjørdal, Norway, and ironically one of the coldest places to live. I don't see whats wrong about mentioning the name of a Norwegian town in a speech...

Conservatives don't like to be reminded of how awesome ebil socialist Norway is compared to America.

[Orlong]

Good job principal!! Too many of today's kids are too foulmouthed. They have to learn somehow if they have crap;py parents that dont raise them right I guess parents dont wash their mouths out with soap anymore like my Mom did the one time I cursed

[Xsinthis]

freedom of speech....enjoy your lawsuit. already made a phat paycheck and havevnt even started college lol.

after seeing the context in which it was used I would have said fuck.

Actually she's not protected by freedom of speech here, IIRC your constitution protects you from persecution from the government. I don't think a principle counts as the government, and I don't think this counts as persecution either.

Someone who's studied American law want to weigh in on this?

[Garnier Fructis]

Actually she's not protected by freedom of speech here, IIRC your constitution protects you from persecution from the government. I don't think a principle counts as the government, and I don't think this counts as persecution either.

Someone who's studied American law want to weigh in on this?

Supreme Court decided in Tinker v. Des Moines that children in school have first amendment protection. However, there are a few exceptions to this. Later supreme court decisions placed limitations on student free speech, such as no sexual speech and no drug related speech. Also, freedom of speech is not protected in school newspapers.

Her case doesn't really fall under any of the exceptions, so she could feasibly win.

[Krasuss]

this is indeed ridiculous, i feel sorry for you Americans for all the crap which is going on there, from all these posts here and all over the internet it really seems like USA is full of shit and retarded individuals(no offence intended I genuinely feel sorry for the normal people out there)

OT: What the hell is wrong with the word "hell" its not rude or swear word, so what is the problem? Can someone explain this to me please, cause i really don't get it? Is it because some religious people are offended by that or what ?

[Gandrake]

All she had to do was copy and past some kind of bullshit letter of apology.

stupid, sure. but she's the one making a big stink out of it.

I could understand if she wrote a letter and the apology was not accepted... but come on man.