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    Grey hearts during combat aoe

    What do these exactly indicate? Is it implying that an enemy or ally is triggering the effect, or that someone is using it w/ a combo?

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    Cross-profession combos.

    It means that fire wall you're shooting through is setting your arrows on fire, and thus applying Burning to the enemy.

    Or else that the fire wall you put down is being shot through by an ally, and THEY are applying Burning to the enemy.
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    Yup. If you mouse over your abilities, at the bottom you'll see and it will either say "Combo Field" and name what kind of field (dark, light, poisin, etc). OR, it will say "Finisher" and have the name of the finisher (blast, projectile, etc). If you use a finisher in a combo field, it creates a new effect.

    Example:

    If an Elemenalist throws down Ring of Fire and you shoot through it with your Ranger auto-attack, your attack then burns the enemy.

    Its a very sexy and awesome system if you ask me.
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    It's not really adequately explained by the game and a lot of the effects are not really all that impressive
    But it's nice that it's there

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    Coolest one is heartseeker through a flame wall and it gives you a flame shield thing that just looks awesome. Way cooler than fire arrows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imnick View Post
    It's not really adequately explained by the game and a lot of the effects are not really all that impressive
    But it's nice that it's there

    If you read your abilitys then yes it is, and it also the wiki, game info, anet blogs, google.. even here in the Mass Info thread, perhaps research would help

    As for the mechanic, another tick in the box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherrysoul View Post
    If you read your abilitys then yes it is, and it also the wiki, game info, anet blogs, google.. even here in the Mass Info thread, perhaps research would help

    As for the mechanic, another tick in the box.
    I think what Imnick means is that it's not explained very well in game, since "Combo Finisher: Leap" and "Combo Field: Dark" don't really tell you anything about how the whole system operates. Sure the resources you listed are there, but a system within the game should be explained... within the game.
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    Seems like a nice idea in theory, but due to the zerg on PvE and WvWvW it's pretty much just random effects for using abilities at random times. In smaller dungeon settings I can see communication being better and people using them more.

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    Fortunately, you can always type /wiki in-game. It's the official information site!
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    the in game /wiki is not "complete" I find... But a goole search solves this !

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    http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Combo

    Tada! It's a pretty nifty system. Sure, you can just spam the hell out of things, but I've done some pretty damn nifty things while playing my dual pistol eng with an elementalist, as it's fairly easy for me to do both projectile and blast finishers, and elementalists are just LOADED with combo fields.

    I think my favorite is applying chilled to enemies with ease, because alone, I don't have a very simple way of doing that, at least not without switching something for a grenade kit, which I'm not interested in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herecius View Post
    http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Combo

    Tada! It's a pretty nifty system. Sure, you can just spam the hell out of things, but I've done some pretty damn nifty things while playing my dual pistol eng with an elementalist.
    I beat you to it with the first reply.

    It took me some time to realize that, when I perform a combo, or somebody combos off me, my Norn says something like "I found a NEW way to win! FANTASTIC!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeWurrum View Post
    I beat you to it with the first reply.

    It took me some time to realize that, when I perform a combo, or somebody combos off me, my Norn says something like "I found a NEW way to win! FANTASTIC!"
    I can't remember what my Charr says. >_>

    I've done some pretty clutch things by throwing down a turret JUST to blow it up for a blast finisher, though. Or even dropping my supply crate elite for a blast finisher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeWurrum View Post
    Cross-profession combos.

    It means that fire wall you're shooting through is setting your arrows on fire, and thus applying Burning to the enemy.

    Or else that the fire wall you put down is being shot through by an ally, and THEY are applying Burning to the enemy.
    Or it means you've put down fire and then shot through it yourself and now burning on the enemy. ...It helps if you're a warrior, in this case. Big ol' puddle of fire + arrows = Profit. Or PoF, switch to rifle = bleeding and burning. Sexy. So sexy I switched to warrior. I like the feeling of being 'rewarded' if you will for handling my abilities well, and big floating gray hearts make me feel good.

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    What I am yet to figure out is how it handles overlapping combo fields.
    Do you get the effects of both? One at random? The first one you hit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Achyra View Post
    Or it means you've put down fire and then shot through it yourself and now burning on the enemy.
    Covered by the first line. :P

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnick View Post
    What I am yet to figure out is how it handles overlapping combo fields.
    Do you get the effects of both? One at random? The first one you hit?
    You can only benefit from one combo field at a time. Pretty sure it would be random, but I have no idea.

    I personally think that's stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imnick View Post
    What I am yet to figure out is how it handles overlapping combo fields.
    Do you get the effects of both? One at random? The first one you hit?
    I think it depends. For a blast finisher AoE (and possibly whirl, but maybe not), it should apply the effects of both, I think, but for a projectile or leap finisher, it will probably apply the last field that it went through before hitting the target. Though that may be difficult to pinpoint...

    I could be totally wrong, naturally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herecius View Post
    I think it depends. For a blast finisher AoE (and possibly whirl, but maybe not), it should apply the effects of both, I think, but for a projectile or leap finisher, it will probably apply the last field that it went through before hitting the target. Though that may be difficult to pinpoint...

    I could be totally wrong, naturally.
    Directly from the wiki:

    Finishers can only interact with one initiator at a time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeWurrum View Post
    Directly from the wiki:
    Ah damn. I agree with your assessment that that's a bit silly, then. Getting multiple blast finisher aoes would be pretty sweet, and would really lend to being a bit more strategic with timing them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeWurrum View Post
    I beat you to it with the first reply.

    It took me some time to realize that, when I perform a combo, or somebody combos off me, my Norn says something like "I found a NEW way to win! FANTASTIC!"
    My female human Guardian says something along the lines of "Lethal combination, I like it".
    Teleport in, drop a ring of fire, jump to get a flame shield, then turn into garen for a bit, spinning and throwing around flame bolts.
    Seems like fire is always picked over the holy/light field though, if I ever use the seal of wrath on my greatsword, while I'm also in a fire field, it'll always use the fire's effects.

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