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  1. #901
    Is there any way of making a macro that uses Elemental Blast when I'm specced into it, and whenever i'm specced into unleashed fury to use unleash elements instead?
    Mainly need this for when I do CMs, it's a pain having to rekeybind those every time.

  2. #902
    I'm not sure if it would work (haven't tested it) but I think in theory if you just made the following macro

    /cast Elemental Blast
    /cast Unleash Elements

    it would work. Macros that contain spells with a GCD in them only cast the first GCD spell then end when you press them, if you are in a spec that doesn't have EB, I would assume it would skip than and cast UE. Not 100% sure, but I'm 90% sure that would work.


  3. #903
    I never thought such a simple macro would do it, it worked perfectly thanks a lot undefetter
    Btw I've been wondering, I switched to troll last night, As a troll during the pull, what would be best to do?

    scenario 1: Macro Berserking to Ascendance, proceed to spam lvb
    scenario 2: Use berserking before flame shock to get extra ticks, unleash elements (specced into unleashed fury) and then ascendance, proceed to spam lvb.

  4. #904
    A more powerful Flame Shock doesn't actually buff Ascendance in any way (read: in any way more advantageous than it would normally*). Ascendance doesn't increase the damage of Lava Burst, it just removes the CD, and as such Lava Surge procs if anything mean LESS during Ascendance than outside of it. You should aim to have a full duration Unleash Fury buff up during Ascendance though.

    tl;dr Scenario one, but cast UE (with UF) right before you cast Ascendance.

    *NB: This is true for just Ascendance. However, you normally combine Ascendance with other buffs (pot, trinkets, Skull Banner ect), and as such it may well be more effective to sync up a more powerful Flame Shock with your Ascendance, but really you are syncing it with these extra external buffs, not with Ascendance itself. As a general tip, I would say its never worth it to cast Flame Shock again unless there is less than ~6 seconds remaining on it (meaning you only 'waste' 1 tick) as most haste buffs only provide an extra 2 ticks. However, if you have 2 or more Haste buffs up at once (Beserking, a Trinket, BL or Meta gem) you are good to refresh flame shock at basically anything below 10 seconds (its not exactly that, but that is a fair guideline to follow).
    Last edited by Undefetter; 2014-07-04 at 10:13 AM.


  5. #905
    Whole bunch of criticism needed right now.

    Ring and Off hand Gear:
    (Armory in link)
    Rings available: Heroic Extinguished Ember of Galakras, Normal Signet of the Dinomancers, Heroic Laser-slice Signet, Heroic Seal of Eternal Sorrow.
    I'm aware that the best HWF off-piece is the gloves, but those aren't available yet. Which rings should I be using given my current gear? I should let you know that Thok has been hiding his tier helm and ring from me for the past 3 weeks or so (10 man guild). The off hand has also been giving me a tough time. I have been using normal Revelations of Y'shaarj, but am looking for Juggernaut's heroic off hand because the stats don't include hit/spirit. Should I be using Nuro's Enigmatic Barrier over Norm Revelations if it drops?

    Ascendance:
    Making sure to use insta lvb before popping ascendance, using unleash elements before spamming lvb, but when unleash elements comes off CD and I still have a few seconds of ascendance left, is it worth it to use it instead of continuing the chain of lvb? What sort of priority does unleash elements hold?

    Also, struggling to get over 2.2m DPS during Heroic Shamans opener. I understand that the boss is farm content, but it's still nice to know I'm doing all I can. Right now my opener is -2 seconds to pull use fire elemental, 0 second Lust, then stormlash (we have 2 shamans, the other is resto, and I use SL first), chain lightning to proc trinkets, meta cloak, etc, and then finally ascendance with lava beam spam. Any comments?

    Thanks in advance, and wish us luck in our next few weeks on Siegecrafter

    Edit: Anzen, where art thou?
    Last edited by Xeonii; 2014-07-11 at 02:52 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeonii View Post
    Whole bunch of criticism needed right now.

    Ring and Off hand Gear:
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    Ascendance:
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    Thanks in advance, and wish us luck in our next few weeks on Siegecrafter

    Edit: Anzen, where art thou?
    I'd definitely use Normal Signet of the Dinomancer & Heroic Laser-Slice Signet, there's really not much competition at this point. Not only are they the best with your current gear setup, they're also both now BiS since item upgrades.

    The off-hand queries hard to say, it really depends how much over hit-cap the shield would put you; with your current gear, it's not worth getting Noru's. The off-hand from Juggernaut is defintely worth taking until you get the Garrosh OH though (unless you can drop spirit in the meantime).

    Whilst it's good general practice to consume Lava Surge charges before using Ascendance, and trying to have the UF buff up; you're main focus of when to pop Ascendance should be: A) Scenario and/or B) Trinket Procs: for example, I will always use Ascendance just as Kardris does Foul Geyser. If there isn't an obvious moment like this of when to use Ascendance, you'd simply wait for a trinket proc as long as it means you can use Ascendance the same amount of times per fight. Also, it's not worth using UE during Ascendance, you should only use it as a GCD during forced movement (if you don't have SWG).

    For the burst on Shamans: You should be pre-casting Chain Lightning before the pull then pop Heroism, otherwise you're sitting around doing nothing. It should go something like Fire Ele (2.5) > Pot > Chain Lightning (1.5) > Heroism (0) > Ascendance > Lava Beam x 1000. It's also worth noting, you should get the Resto Shaman to use his SL totem on the pull since he loses nothing doing it, then you just drop yours when Ascendance runs out, it's a pretty reasonable compromise.

    GOOD LUCK ON BLACKFUSE!!

  7. #907
    If you have the UF Talent, then it is always worth to cast UE, as it (behind Flame Shock) has your highest DPS priority, even higher than Lava Burst. However, try to time it so that the use of a GCD wont cost you a lava burst. For example, if you have a 1.5 second cast time on Lava Burst, and 2 seconds left on Ascendance, casting UE will mean that you will only have time for 1 more Lava Burst, but if you cast Lava Burst FIRST, you could then cast UE, your Ascendance would end during that GCD, but you would still be able to cast Lava Burst afterwards, gaining you a free Lava Burst cast.


  8. #908
    Do you think it can be a dps increase not to use earthshock/fulmination during the 10s buff you get after you unleash elements with unleashed fury?
    Last edited by tidus93; 2014-07-24 at 03:04 PM.

  9. #909
    Quote Originally Posted by tidus93 View Post
    Do you think it can be a dps increase not to use earthshock/fulmination during the 10s buff you get after you unleash elements with unleashed fury?
    The damage buff isn't big enough to warrant the loss of stacks you would get whilst casting Lightning Bolt, all for the sake of saving 1 GCD.


  10. #910
    Is it worth it to save Unleash Flame for when your lava burst is off CD? Or do you just want to use it on CD?

  11. #911
    Quote Originally Posted by Post View Post
    Is it worth it to save Unleash Flame for when your lava burst is off CD? Or do you just want to use it on CD?
    Unless you cast it immediately after casting Lava Burst, it will always come off cooldown before the buff runs out. The only situation I ever delay it is if I just cast Lava Burst and I need to cast Flame Shock within the next 3-4 seconds, because its not worth it to use the buff on Flame Shock. There is no need to wait the full 8 seconds though, just cast it immediately after casting Flame Shock then cast LvB ASAP.


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