Why do people look down on China?

[Deleted]

Government atrocities.

[Doktor Faustus]

[QUOTE=Creamy Flames;19089930]Because they are a totalitarian state that don't care about human rights and they occupy land that they shouldn't, and oppress those that live in it brutally.[COLOR="red"]

Could be talking about many nations, former and current.

[skrump]

I think the main reasons the U.s Looks down on China are these 3 things
#1 they are communists and we are raised to believe that communism is evil (though were not taught any logical reason to support that theory)
#2 They eat animals we consider pets and to make matters worse they don't exactly slaughter the animals in a even remotely Humane way.
#3 they value male life more than female life which from an American standpoint makes them complete and total fucktards.

so in short the difference in social views makes any American who places more value on morals than logical reasoning to think China is full of Barbaric unethical soulless/heartless people and most would gladly classify them as savages if they were not more technologically advanced than the rest of the world.

I figure every civalization must find a balance between morality and logical/vritical thinking and the U.S puts morality on a higher pedestal than most which would lead me to the conclusion that China itself is more of a logical country however even from a logical standpoint their views are severely outdated at least when it comes to the #3 point I made.

Just to clarify, these are not my personal views on China or it's people but they do tend to be the views of the Moral American majority who judges other civilizations based by our own moral conduct.

I won't even start talking about the atrocities of their government because that would be like the pot calling the kettle black, though I think the U.S and China represent two Extremes at opposite ends of the Spectrum.

[Elenion]

Too many ignorant and clueless fairytales about China in this thread.

Every minute we spend here talking, bashing, guessing about China, the chinese people are working hard on the other side of the earth towards their goals.

In the end, it is not talking that decides, but doing. And the reality has proved that they are doing better and better.

Sorry to inform you but you're the delusional one here.
Yes, like everywhere else, there are honest hardworking people in China but at the same time those exact same people often don't get compensated for what they deserve.

While ago, some baby milk powder producer company in China were adding harmful chemical substance in their product in order to artificially raise protein level. Some farmers were dumping their vegetables in polluted water with high concentration of metal to increase overall weight for more profit. Some Chinese people were selling their food that was cooked in oil filtered out from sewage. The coastline of China is littered with garbage and polluted materials and neighbor countries like South Korea were detecting heavily polluted air coming from mainland China. They make bridges by filling garbage in order to cut corners. Most of APT (advanced persistent threat) in the world leads back to China. Kids get overrun by trucks in China but no one will call ambulance or police because there were cases where victims blame the helpers for compensation since they cannot rely on police to find real suspect. There was a video from a CCTV where a truck driver ran over a kid twice just to make sure he is dead since paying for hospital bill is more expensive than what he had to pay for killing him.


In short, current China is really about gaining profit much as possible to the point where many of them disregard or walking boarder line of issues like ethics, pollution, crimes and etc. The real blame goes to the government for allowing all these to happen of course.

[skrump]

In short, current China is really about gaining profit much as possible to the point where many of them disregard or walking boarder line of issues like ethics, pollution, crimes and etc. The real blame goes to the government for allowing all these to happen of course.

You cannot place the blame on government alone, after all even the government officials are still members of the society and if the social majority had problems with such actions they would either revolt or leave.

As for the guy throwing it in reverse to make sure the kid was dead well he was thinking logically not morally and to be honest when a country is overpopulated such as China I assume the majority of society would agree he made the right choice which is most likely why he didn't receive a harsh punishment for his actions.

And to be honest it isn't exactly hard to justify such actions morally anyway as he spared the child a lot of pain and the family of the child a lot of financial hardship even if his original intent was totally unethical.

But hell you could justify killing a thousand people in the exact same manner if you consider the fact that you just created 1000 jobs positions that need to be filled and their are 1000 less people that will produce tons of waste within their lifetimes not to mention 1000 less people stressing the wealth of a nation or 1000 less people consuming tons of food throughout their lifetimes all of which will benefit the society asa hole as well as reduce the negative impact they have on nature itself.

[Elenion]

You cannot place the blame on government alone, after all even the government officials are still members of the society and if the social majority had problems with such actions they would either revolt or leave.

As for the guy throwing it in reverse to make sure the kid was dead well he was thinking logically not morally and to be honest when a country is overpopulated such as China I assume the majority of society would agree he made the right choice which is most likely why he didn't receive a harsh punishment for his actions.

And to be honest it isn't exactly hard to justify such actions morally anyway as he spared the child a lot of pain and the family of the child a lot of financial hardship even if his original intent was totally unethical.

I did not mean the government should take he blame alone, especially since the government itself is so corrupted in many level, it cannot function properly as it is suppose to.

As for the guy throwing it in reverse to make sure the kid was dead well he was thinking logically not morally and to be honest when a country is overpopulated such as China I assume the majority of society would agree he made the right choice which is most likely why he didn't receive a harsh punishment for his actions.

Saying the man who overran the kid twice was thinking logically would be severely overestimating the person. The man knew exactly what he was doing and what he was doing was exploiting the circumstance for selfish reason, there's nothing logical about it. You'd be insulting all of us including yourself.

Also, overpopulation should never be the reason to overthrow humanity, it works exact opposite of how the society works.

[skrump]

Also, overpopulation should never be the reason to overthrow humanity, it works exact opposite of how the society works.

Which is exactly why humanity is destined to lead itself to extinction and why humanity has many of the same traits as a flesh eating virus and will continue to consume beyond all logical reasoning until their is nothing left for them to consume but each other.

Eventually it will get to the point that killing others will be a requirement for self preservation, at least if something isn't done to bring the birth/death ratios in line with each other which are only getting further apart due to the advancements in medical treatment and our ability to increase our natural lifespans.

In short consider that within the next two hundred years the entire world will be as densely populated as India is now and then ask yourself when that happens where you will grow your crops raise your livestock and build your dwellings.

If it came to that point today would you hesitate to cut down your fellow man as if it were nothing more than a blade of grass to survive or will you be one who gets cut down when the survival of the fittest mentality is forced into play.

Like it or not that is the direction humanity is heading in due to having an overzealous sense of morality that is valued over critical thinking and logic.

[Elenion]

Which is exactly why humanity is destined to lead itself to extinction and why humanity has many of the same traits as a flesh eating virus and will continue to consume beyond all logical reasoning until their is nothing left for them to consume but each other.

Eventually it will get to the point that killing others will be a requirement for self preservation, at least if something isn't done to bring the birth/death ratios in line with each other which are only getting further apart due to the advancements in medical treatment and our ability to increase our natural lifespans.

In short consider that within the next two hundred years the entire world will be as densely populated as India is now and then ask yourself when that happens where you will grow your crops raise your livestock and build your dwellings.

I'd hope rest of world is smart enough to prepare for all that if it comes down to it. However, it's not the case of overpopulation in some of first-world countries. In Japan, it's the exact opposite. They lack new generations while life expectancy is increasing (% of old people are increasing).

[skrump]

I'd hope rest of world is smart enough to prepare for all that if it comes down to it. However, it's not the case of overpopulation in some of first-world countries. In Japan, it's the exact opposite. They lack new generations while life expectancy is increasing (% of old people are increasing).

That is because Japan had the right idea but carried it out in a piss poor way.
I mean I do have logical reasoning for being against government funded medical programs to lengthen the lives of others.

The world has seen the mistakes made in china, they now see what pitfalls it caused and how to avoid those same pitfalls in the future.
And to be honest the fact China wasn't able to predict that limiting 2 people to create one child would cause the population to be halved was kind of moronic.

2 people need to have 2 kids however the population will still dwindle due to the fact not everyone is going to have kids thus the overall population would recede slowly.

However if all the parents kill the little girls that would impede the breeding capabilities of the next generation even more so, so the government would need to make sure that did not happen and lets be honest you only need one rooster in the hen house and the reverse isn't ever going to work very well because bad shit happens when multiple roosters are forced to fight over one hen and overall production of eggs plummets.

And come on you got to admit the idea of a society where women outnumber men 5-1 would be flat awesome from a male perspective.

[Elenion]

That is because Japan had the right idea but carried it out in a piss poor way.
I mean I do have logical reasoning for being against government funded medical programs to lengthen the lives of others.

The world has seen the mistakes made in china, they now see what pitfalls it caused and how to avoid those same pitfalls in the future.
And to be honest the fact China wasn't able to predict that limiting 2 people to create one child would cause the population to be halved was kind of moronic.

2 people need to have 2 kids however the population will still dwindle due to the fact not everyone is going to have kids thus the overall population would recede slowly.

However if all the parents kill the little girls that would impede the breeding capabilities of the next generation even more so, so the government would need to make sure that did not happen and lets be honest you only need one rooster in the hen house and the reverse isn't ever going to work very well because bad shit happens when multiple roosters are forced to fight over one hen and overall production of eggs plummets.

And come on you got to admit the idea of a society where women outnumber men 5-1 would be flat awesome from a male perspective.

Well, I can understand your reasoning but this post is going to raise some eyebrows

That is because Japan had the right idea but carried it out in a piss poor way.

They are not really trying to do any sort of population control, the marriage and new starting family is declining due to many reasons, mainly the economy.

[Purlina]

In short, current China is really about gaining profit much as possible to the point where many of them disregard or walking boarder line of issues like ethics, pollution, crimes and etc. The real blame goes to the government for allowing all these to happen of course.

My own country (America) was pretty similar at one point in time...

Look at what the US let GE get away with in the Hudson River.

[IceShot22]

I would say the lower standard of living/worker treatment in poor areas.

[ashblond]

Sorry to inform you but you're the delusional one here.
Yes, like everywhere else, there are honest hardworking people in China but at the same time those exact same people often don't get compensated for what they deserve.

While ago, some baby milk powder producer company in China were adding harmful chemical substance in their product in order to artificially raise protein level. Some farmers were dumping their vegetables in polluted water with high concentration of metal to increase overall weight for more profit. Some Chinese people were selling their food that was cooked in oil filtered out from sewage. The coastline of China is littered with garbage and polluted materials and neighbor countries like South Korea were detecting heavily polluted air coming from mainland China. They make bridges by filling garbage in order to cut corners. Most of APT (advanced persistent threat) in the world leads back to China. Kids get overrun by trucks in China but no one will call ambulance or police because there were cases where victims blame the helpers for compensation since they cannot rely on police to find real suspect. There was a video from a CCTV where a truck driver ran over a kid twice just to make sure he is dead since paying for hospital bill is more expensive than what he had to pay for killing him.


In short, current China is really about gaining profit much as possible to the point where many of them disregard or walking boarder line of issues like ethics, pollution, crimes and etc. The real blame goes to the government for allowing all these to happen of course.

You are the delusional one here.

When you are chopping off the trees just to get the wood for fire, your first concern is not environment but your survival.

When you are killing aninal because you are starving and in need of food, your first priority is not animal right.

When you are choosing to see only their problems, but not their progress, you are delusional.

When you are trying to explain China with your foreign point of view instead of their reality, you will never understand it.