Has anyone tried Spark + Feathers then?
Has anyone tried Spark + Feathers then?
just my 2c
Upgraded relic and normal darkmist are essentially the same in dps, so it doesn't much matter. Valor trinket is only really worth it if it doesn't put you way over exp cap (through reforging on it and reforging away from exp to more haste on other items).
Has anyone though of an interesting way to track zandalari spark stacks so that you can have foresight when exactly it will proc. Looking over to the right-left corner is too difficult fgor me.
Personally I use progress bars for important short term buffs and procs over my character frame (which is in the middle-bottom-left of the screen below my character.
this screenshot is not exactly my current UI, but its the same idea and you can see there the various procs for different trinkets and effects (its essentially in 'test mode' for all my weakauras). I considered using slightly more obvious icons to track procs such as these but decided on the aforementioned method because I felt its aesthetic outweighed having ugly icons all over my screen.
PS how do I get a properly sized image in here, or a thumbnail which links to the full sized one.
Last edited by dennisdkramer; 2013-03-28 at 05:13 PM.
The only example I have for now is Dark animus : you pres escape to stop autoattack. a few seconds later you judge an add, you get a guaranteed proc for "the better chance on combat start".
I did it from 1stack to 9stack right before activating the boss. At 9 stacks, I pressed Escape, and at the very second I engaged the boss, I got transformed.
Maybe you can play with it on Primordius to guarantee a proc aligned with burst as soon as fully mutated (but it didn't cross my mind before I noticed it on dark animus...) but it might get trickier because you want to kill adds quickly to regain buffs asap.
On my side, I have a question
I have Spark and shado-pan talisman. I got my t15 chest and then got 300exp over the cap.
Is it worth it to switch back my talisman to Last Order of Lei Shen N 2/2 (497ilvl) ?
snapshot of stats in both situations :
Spark + talisman
* 15k280 STR + 1760avg of talisman proc
* 12k416 haste
* 4k3 mastery
* 1k9 crit
-- 278 wasted expertise over the cap
Spark + Lei shen normal 2/2
* 15k280 STR + 1549 avg str from lei shen proc (211STR loss)
* 12k970 haste (+554 haste nice)
* 4k00 mastery (300 loss)
* 1k7 crit (200 loss)
perfect hit/exp cap.
On a first glance I would state that Talisman still pull ahead in pure raw stats gains, in addition to an easy to sync ES with the 8800 proc (+/- the 7333 proc from spark )
But being so much over exp cap seems wrong :/
Am I right to keep talisman anyhow or should I equip N lei shen 2/2 ?
Armory : http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...gneur/advanced
Last edited by metasaigneur; 2013-03-29 at 12:43 AM.
Tbh, I don't know what kind of proc trinket could beat trinkets which together yield 2300 constant str, plus their procs (6908 haste & 3262 str). Just pure, clean str and haste - no "you have a chance to gain charge x that after y stacks gives you z strength" bullshit. None of these new 522's so far has convinced me. I might however imagine that Gaze of the Twins (1467 str + a stacking crit proc) could actually do that.
Spark and feather are pretty much BiS at this point, the up-time alone on feather is absurd enough to make it BiS.
I also don't believe he said strength was awful either. He said that trinket was awful, and he is correct.
New trinkets are BIS primodirus may beat spark from some people saying they are able to keep 5 stacks up for long periods. Until then BIS is spark and feather. If they aren't then you aren't paying attention to procs and playing poorly.
simply valore trinket is much better than spark,it's a pain in ass to pair it with ret CD while valore trinket is up before 10sec of fight and with 100 sec of it's ICD have good chance to pair with vortex ,but I vote for valor trinket reforged to hast and feather one as BIS until then...
As I stated before, I'd personally only use the valor trinket if you were able to reforge 30%+ of the expertise you gained into haste, but otherwise 2/2 DMC and a lei shen's ends up being more of a dps increase until you can get spark/feather. Even LFR versions of the feather would pull ahead.
Hi guys, I am new to this forum for sure, I really only have any time for LFR with my busy work schedule and family priorities:
Armory Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ascus/advanced
I was just wondering aside from the obvious that I have no Enchants and still need a bunch of Gems, Are my trinket choices ok? or should I be trying to get the Spark from LFR... I am just unsure as to whether the LFR Spark will overtake the Valor Trinket in DPS. Thank you for you help guys.
Thanks Meta, Ill make sure not to worry about trinks at this point until I finally get into a normal raid.
I must say thank you as well, Metasaigneur. As an LFR Raider, this list was what I needed. No reason to spend coins on Horridon now, just meed my Feather and I'm set for trinkets (got my VP Trinket right after my first LFR, had the VP + Rep).
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