So now JP items are only 5 ilvl worse than heroic item ? why not just leave pvp gear as it is and lvl up JP gear to 463 ?
I like it. I figured something like this would happen, otherwise everyone would be doing raids and dungeons with epic pvp items only.
458 items still doesn't really help considering heroics give 463.
And Mary Poppins turns to the camera and says, "That's as it should be."
She grins. Clicks her heels together. Her umbrella carries her out of the Vale of Eternal Blossoms and elsewhere, wherever she is needed.
The growing rift between the perceived "casual" (as well as their demonization) and the oft self-described "Hardcore" sucks. It's making the community xenophobic and exceedingly toxic, and I wish everybody would just quit the shit and accept that a game does best 'catering' to both. Today's casuals could be tomorrow's hardcores and vice versa; but the inherent truth is that there's absolutely nothing wrong with either group's playstyle, and story should be universally accessible.
How this went live is curious for sure. Blizz overlooked the fact that pvp gear has all the same pve stats with pvp ones on top of it and didn't think ppl would take advantage or abuse this. This sucks for a few ppl that bought a ton of gear today or cashed in JP for honor, in a few days this wont matter at all though.
Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before... He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. -Kurt Vonnegut, "Cat's Cradle"
Originally Posted by 182987965621
Change makes sense but I'm feeling kinda sad that I bought 2 pieces of honor gear this AM and put some rather expensive enchants/gems on them and now they will be replaced by 5 man drops I likely will get this week.
To all the min/maxing raiders that spent 4k Honor and 2500JP on Honor Gear because it gave you a better chance to get into LFR next week as well as more item levels for raiding...
Conquest gear is obviously the only worthwhile gear to grind out now for item levels, and that's probably the best way to incentivise Arena: make PvEers do it. Lol.
Not sure why they up the JP items even more. There's no challenge in getting 440 ilvl to do the heroics once you hit 90, and that was before we were even able to access the JP vendors for 450 items.
Now they give 458? You're going to be replacing them quickly in the heroics anyhow :P They should just be used as filler for what quest rewards you didn't get in Dread Wastes to hit 440.
Considering I already started doing this, I am not too happy.
The JP items are 450 (and now 458) because they assume players have 4000JP banked up from Cataclysm.
This is really bizarre, because you're killing bosses that drop 463 gear to get points you can spend for inferior gear. At least 458 is half a tier closer.
You ran heroics, get JP and some gear. For that elusive gear that just dont drop and when it does it gets ninjaed, you had JP.
I prefer the old point to the new one.
Now I will never enter raid finder, it will take 4-5 weeks of grinding, because items for shaman never drop
I want to quote a comment of one poster on a BiS list thread which included 464 pvp gear: "I think the problem is you people refusing to PvP to get gear. Well then go ahead and farm your dungeons 100 times to get your inferior gear. That's your problem after all. Just don't complain about a BiS list having BiS items on it."
Bliizard just spat in his face and other dudes like him who thought that they were cool.