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    best thus far for me atleast, the biggest shock was the number of dailies available each day, as someone who did rarely spend 2 hours doing dailies in cata it was a shock to spend something like 4-5 hours on dailies( i am not exaggerating, might be the disorganized way i do the quests so i end up flying all over the continent ) in terms of ratings

    pvp: N/A since i don't pvp
    pve: seems fairly balanced for 5 mans atleast can't say much in regards to raids since the only bosses i've done is Sha of anger, Galleon and Feng the Accursed but from my experience with those three it seems fairly well balanced so it will be a 8/10 mainly due to my inexperience in Mogu'shan vaults.
    PvE difficulty: i'd say 8-9/10 the dungeons aren't as facerollable as the Wotlk ones from my experiences but they aren't quite as hard the Cata ones before nerfs as for the raiding i found on Feng the accursed atleast that there is a small margin for errors ( fx. people not moving from lightning fist or standing in fire which can lead to mana issues for the healers in the last phase) let alone how fast arcane resonance can fuck you over during 3rd phase.

    the story i give a 10/10 because for me the story have been the most gripping for any expansion thus far.

    overall a solid 9/10
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    Quote Originally Posted by malletin View Post
    PvE difficulty: i'd say 8-9/10 the dungeons aren't as facerollable as the Wotlk ones
    Sorry do you mean dungeons or raids?. The dungeons are more faceroll than the wrath ones. Literally. I literally defeat bosses by placing my face on the keyboard and tanking the shit out of them.
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    Normal should be reduced in difficulty. Heroic should be reduced in difficulty.
    And the tiny fraction for whom heroic raids are currently well tuned? Too bad,so sad! With the arterial bleed of subs the fastest it's ever been, the vanity development that gives you guys your own content is no longer supportable.

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    PVP is just stupid atm. healing is dominated by restodruids, and dps is dominated by warlocks/DK's. Best setup we have yet to run in our RBG team is 2 frost DK's, 2 frost mages, 2 destro warlocks, 2 paladin healers, 1 restodruid and 1 warrior FC. And we could most likely improve that by getting a DK FC and switch one of the paladins for a monk/another restodruid.

  4. #324
    Can't comment on the PvP as I haven't done any.

    I have Pandaren Loremaster and until Dread Wastes I found the story and lore very good and engaging. Dread Wastes is the one sour spot for me because by about half way through you are thinking " for the love of god, please don't give me quests to feed this damn bug".

    The required Rep grind ( and yes it pretty much is required if you plan on getting anything really) is probably the only thing ticking me off about the entire expansion so far. Its boring and despite how they tried to sell it, insanely repetitive. I've only been doing them for a few days now, and I feel like all I do is Dailies with a few other bits in between, really annoying.

    Instance runs I'm actually enjoying, and although they are really easy, I'm ok with that. I didn't get annoyed by the Wrath ones, although I will admit that even the Wrath ones were harder than this at the start.

    Professions would actually be in an awesome place across the board, if it wasn't for Spirit of Harmony. While I am really enjoying playing my Elemental Shaman, the fact she is mining/herbing leaves me feeling hamstrung when it comes to the Spirits. Sure I can convert them into some useful things, but it feels like such a waste.

    Right now I would give it a 7/10 with the possibility of it going higher if they do something decent with the daily grind ( hint: this new idea for Rep they have ain't it), make Spirit of Harmony BoA ( I don't really want to see it BoE, I like that its not just another mat, but being soulbound is just too harsh) and then whatever the future may hold. It could honestly turn out to be my favorite expansion of them all, its definitely far exceeded Cata, but definately behind Wrath and TBC.

  5. #325
    Playing since start of EU vanilla,

    playing semi-hardcore since mid tbc,

    bashed pandaland so hard, soo hard... And I still think pandas could have been a little bit more badass,

    BUT


    Pandaland is almost the best expansion ever... For me Ulduar is the best expansion (trying to be clever here), TBC is second, Pandaland close third, Cata fourth, wotlk is utter garbage so no it's not even fifth.


    mists of the panda area

    it's a weird feeling to hate the theme of the expansion while loving the mechanics and the things it brought.

  6. #326
    OP don't take anyone who gives WOTLK low scores seriously, those are people who don't know what Warcraft should be about. WOTLK was a 11/10 except for the way they dealt with the LK at the end, which was a total downer.

    I played the new expansion on a friend's computer, it really has nothing of the Warcraft feel in terms of story. You do a bunch of weird stuff for forgettable characters in a setting that feels completely copy pasted out of Asian culture, and every now and again they give you this totally Warcraft style event or quest that just doesn't fit with the rest of the crap.

    PVP is the same. People don't know how to play so you spend your time buying new keyboards and screens after you make one and the other meet every few days. Blizzard still doesn't seem to have the time to make small 2 minute tuturials in-game to teach people how to play, like they did in Global Agenda. I guess it takes "too many ressources" out of their precious cocaine snorting time on their luxury yachts and company trips to Vegas.

    The environment is nice but once again there's plenty of re-used models and the few new models are also constantly re-used, as for weapon and armor models there's maybe 1-2 sets per class that has anything to it, you'll soon be transmogrifying everything to your favorite pre-BC tier or whatever.

    A forgettable expansion, hopefully we'll get to forget about it soon when they announce something with more common sense at the next Blizzcon.

    I saw no future for pandaren in Warcraft lore ever since the Warcraft 3 joke, and I see even less now, if that's possible.

  7. #327
    If you like dailies, MoP is the expansion for you.

    If you don't, then don't bother.

  8. #328
    Id give it an 8. Vaults has been a lot of fun even on normal. Firelands and DS on normal were just kinda boring and something to get through. Vaults has been engaging and my guild has had a great week working through the first 4 and now perfecting our strat for Elegon.

    The dailies are a little much and I also don't like that they are required for raiding basically.

    My only other complaint and this might be more of a positive but just way too much to do right now cant seem to find the time each day to get everything I want to get done.

  9. #329
    Your OP shows you already assume if people like it then they're lying to you. Either way, I'll reply to your incredibly biased post by simply saying it's the most fun I've ever had in WoW.

  10. #330
    Boring as hell. Oh and poop quests.


  11. #331
    WoW = 94
    TBC = 89
    Wotlk = 90
    Cata = 74
    Mop = 60

    I hate dailyes.

  12. #332
    Enjoying it very much. The dailies arent as grindy as some of the stuff in TBC or Wrath(can i include firelands?) yet there is a lot more to do and be rewarded for etc. Professions are better than ever and raiding is great. Lots of stuff is icing on the cake like pet battles etc. For difficulty we have more tiers /levels of gear with challenge dungeons and simpler gear through dailies. Much like before Raiders get the best gear. Hardcore and casuals catered just as well. Great expansion so far.

  13. #333
    PVP Balance - no idea. Our server is 99% horde
    PVE Balance - 8/10
    PVE Difficulty compared to WOTLK Difficulty - 5/10
    Story Depth - 9/10

    Just my 2c

  14. #334
    PvE questing = fun
    PvE zones = awesome
    PvE balance = eh? There's balance in this game?
    PvE dungeons normal = faster scooter faster!!
    PvE heroics = no idea yet
    PvE dailies = Omg i have 6 characters. WTH Blizzard!
    PvP balance = eh x10? There's balance in this game?

    I like the xpac so far. The theme is very different than the previous xpacs. Especially Cataclysm, so serious :/

    At moments I do have this feeling that I don't belong in the setting, depends on what class I play. When i'm running around with my undead shadowpriest alt I feel out of place, but maybe that's just me.

    If you're hardcore in the way of playing 6+ hours straight every single day, then you are gonna be burned out pretty fast. If you're casual and take things real slow, you accept the fact a lot of things are gated and will take time to accomplish, then you're in for some fun and entertaining gaming moments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atrahasis View Post
    Sorry do you mean dungeons or raids?. The dungeons are more faceroll than the wrath ones. Literally. I literally defeat bosses by placing my face on the keyboard and tanking the shit out of them.
    well i find them harder, probs to you for being a better tank than me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by malletin View Post
    well i find them harder, probs to you for being a better tank than me.
    You can't be serious. You find the lvl 90 "heroics" harder than in wrath? Dude I've been tanking them in with ilvl 378 shoulders. It requires less thought than wrath. Which is to say NONE.
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    Normal should be reduced in difficulty. Heroic should be reduced in difficulty.
    And the tiny fraction for whom heroic raids are currently well tuned? Too bad,so sad! With the arterial bleed of subs the fastest it's ever been, the vanity development that gives you guys your own content is no longer supportable.

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    Questing was fluid and I thought it was fun. It only takes about a week to get to 90, so that's a plus or minus based on if you like questing/leveling. However, cut scenes were mostly used with NPC arrival/dialogue at the end of the occasional quest hub and the end of some zones have a cut scene like the Wrath Gate, but they are spread out and nowhere near as frequent as Cataclysm. They are well placed and contribute rather than detract from playing.

    I did Jade Forest > Valley of Four Winds > Kun Lai Summit > maybe 1/4 of Townlong Steppes, and perhaps 1/2 of Dread Wastes and hit 90. This means I have a Karasang Wilds, Valley of Eternal Blossoms, lot of Dread Wastes and Townlong Steppes available for alts to take different paths for leveling.

    Dungeons are quick and fairly easy on normal, require a little thought but not difficult on heroic. They are a good pace for gearing up and just starting with LFG having random PUGs, but will be radically easy for a pre-made group. This was, however, intentional.

    When you hit 90, a plethora of things open up with dailies. While seeming silly, there's some charming fun with the farm and Tillers dailies, Cloud Serpent dailies remind me of less painful Netherwing rep, and Klaxxi and Golden Lotus seem more standard kill x dailies. I haven't done much with Shado Pan or Anglers yet.
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    Best expansion so far!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atrahasis View Post
    You can't be serious. You find the lvl 90 "heroics" harder than in wrath? Dude I've been tanking them in with ilvl 378 shoulders. It requires less thought than wrath. Which is to say NONE.

    I haven't tried heroics yet because I'm waiting for my friends to level up to 90 still. However, I did do shado-pan monastery with them and the last boss in there did require me to both get out of that channeled AoE he does and keep charging back in to interrupt his rage thingie.

    Not to say that's incredibly hard but that's not faceroll tank n spank sit in one place pressing buttons.

    Also, the last boss in mogu'shan palace requires you to keep moving out of his "shockwave", the fires on the ground, the cone AoE flurry of blades and have someone run around turning off crossbow bullets.

    There's a lot of stuff happening. The only thing that makes it not that hard is that they don't insta-kill you. But again, people may claim what they want to make it sound like they are pro players, the fact is that FACEROLLING isn't one of the possible claims unless a: you overgear the dungeon, b: Your healer is godlike. Mine was in ilevel 375 and it was NOT faceroll. Forgiving, yes. But not faceroll easy.

  20. #340
    I like it alot. I'd give it a 9/10. Hella more enjoyable than Cata imo. Having a blast!!

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