[TV] Arrow

[CR77]

What was that? "I want you to become the next Ra's Al-ghul? Is he a troll? There is only one Ra's by name.

That was so silly.. hey bro wanna take my name and become the most badass person on the planet?

I really enjoyed their duel (watched it 100+ times, Ra's speech was amazing) but this, this was cartoony to say the least.

And was Merlyn the illusionist Ra's encountered in Vienna? maybe they know each other for a long time, and let him use the Pit to regain youthness he was his "horsemen".

We've already seen when Merlyn came to Ra's for the first time, when Nyssa was a child and Merlyn's wife had been murdered, Merlyn is not any older than he appears.

[grandpab]

We've already seen when Merlyn came to Ra's for the first time, when Nyssa was a child and Merlyn's wife had been murdered, Merlyn is not any older than he appears.

He's not? I thought in the last episode Ra's was saying the last time he saw Merlyn was 50 years ago and he still had the same face, meaning he hasn't aged.

[Xilurm]

He's not? I thought in the last episode Ra's was saying the last time he saw Merlyn was 50 years ago and he still had the same face, meaning he hasn't aged.

He was talking about some random magician he met.

[grandpab]

He was talking about some random magician he met.

Oh ok, I missed something then.

[apepi]

Same with Roy, I think. Lots of hate for Roy and his whineyness, but I think this season he has been great and really adds a nice calm touch to the show. Like Diggle, he can argue and fight, without going full on emo.

Roy was whiny, but he kinda had his reasons. After he got stronger he stopped it, he developed. Laurel? She has seemed not to develop mentally. I don't give a shit if Laurel grows three arms and kicks Ra's ass all by her self, she has not really changed since she has started on the show.

Did not get to watch the new episode, watching it right now.

[Immitis]

"Arrow creators Greg Berlanti, Andrew Kreisberg and Marc Guggenheim are behind the project, which would unite Arrow's Brandon Routh as Ray Palmer/The Atom and Caity Lotz whose Arrow character Sara Lance/Canary was killed off this season. It is unclear if she would revive the character or don a different identity. Also in the mix would be The Flash's Wentworth Miller, with the Prison Break alum playing Leonard Snart (the villainous Captain Cold) and Victor Garber as Dr. Martin Stein (one half of Firestorm)."

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/liv...spinoff-778156

how?!? wha? even?

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my reaction to the news

[Gallahadd]

I FUCKING CALLED IT!

Scroll back, I'll wait, I fucking SAID that Ra's would make oliver head of the league and the next season would be dealing with Oliver trying to balance League shit with his Arrow shit.

I fucking CALLED IT BITCHES

So next season will be Oliver + League Vs Amanda Waller and ARGUS?

Or do you think the final arc of this season will be everything going to shit and Oliver will end up fighting Ra's again?

[Korgoth]

"Arrow creators Greg Berlanti, Andrew Kreisberg and Marc Guggenheim are behind the project, which would unite Arrow's Brandon Routh as Ray Palmer/The Atom and Caity Lotz whose Arrow character Sara Lance/Canary was killed off this season...

I am hoping that is the biggest Arrow spoilers ever to drop. Sara never died, whole thing was staged by her and Merlyn to bring about the change in leadership and direction of the league, so that they could be free.

[Solidito]

I FUCKING CALLED IT!

Scroll back, I'll wait, I fucking SAID that Ra's would make oliver head of the league and the next season would be dealing with Oliver trying to balance League shit with his Arrow shit.

I fucking CALLED IT BITCHES

So next season will be Oliver + League Vs Amanda Waller and ARGUS?

Or do you think the final arc of this season will be everything going to shit and Oliver will end up fighting Ra's again?

I'd love for him to join the League but I can't see it happening, I expect something will happen that will make him decide against it.

[Gallahadd]

I'd love for him to join the League but I can't see it happening, I expect something will happen that will make him decide against it.

I think he'll say no to the offer to rule, the season happens, then at the end after he's killed Ra's (who will then come back with the Lazarus Pit) He'll join the league but only as a normal member/the Star City chapter head or something like that. Think latter seasons of Angel, when they were running Wolfram and Hart.

Then next season Arrow, with a little help from Maseo and Katana, will take on either Amanda Waller and ARGUS or Generel Shrieve and the Creature Commandos. Possibly both.

Also, I meant to say earlier...


Diggle is the number 1 TV bro. That scene where he asks Oliver to be his best man was great.

Also: YAY She finally fucking did it! It took her all this time but she finally DID IT!!

Laurel managed to hold her baton like a real human being, not a total fucktard! Our little girl is growing up.

[Immitis]

"On when viewers will see Oliver's reaction to Ra's offer, following the show's return on March 18 with new episode "The Offer":

Marc Guggenheim: It picks up literally 10 seconds before the end of this episode.

Andrew Kreisberg: You want to keep that conversation going. Obviously, Oliver's completely taken aback. He is not expecting that to be the case. It was something that Greg [Berlanti], Marc and I talked about -- it was important to have a different villain this year, somebody who was going to be doing something completely different. In season one, we had the incomparable John Barrowman, who had his mission. And obviously, last year, Slade's mission was one of vengeance.

For this year, to have Ra's, who's presented as this giant, malevolent force, but then to basically offer the keys to the kingdom to our hero -- it just felt like such a different way to go, and a different relationship for Oliver to have with the villain. What Oliver's reaction to Ra's offer is -- the next episode is actually titled "The Offer" -- what Nyssa's reaction to it is, what everyone's reaction to it is, makes up the bulk of the next run of episodes.

On Nyssa's reaction to Ra's asking Oliver to take his place:

Kriesberg: Nyssa is the heir to the demon, so you can imagine how she feels when she finds out that what she would consider to be her birthright is being handed to Oliver.

Guggenheim: There's a scene in [episode] #16 between Nyssa and Ra's that definitely addresses that. From Nyssa's perspective, it has everything to do with Sara. From Ra's perspective, maybe, maybe not.

Does Talia, Ra's most famous daughter from comic book lore, figure into the storyline?

Katrina Law: She's my twin, I ate her in the womb. [Laughs]

Kreisberg: We haven't made any firm decisions about whether Talia exists in our continuity. We are so, so happy with Katrina and Nyssa. If we ever think of a reason to have a Talia, whoever or whatever incarnation we decide to do, it would be in service of furthering Katrina's story.

On the broader implications of Ra's' offer to Oliver:

Kreisberg: It's a different kind of threat, because they're asking him to join up. And as Malcolm tells him in a subsequent episode, he's not really asking. That leads to all sorts of interesting combinations, and new paradigms.

The most fun for us in doing the show in general is when we pair new people up. So much of the fun for us writing this season has been John and Willa being together, John and Katie [Cassidy] in this episode -- watching Laurel with more verve than skill think for one second that she can take on Malcolm. She's not the Black Canary, yet. Sara might have gotten him, but there's no way Laurel can. Yet, again, she gets knocked down, and she gets right back up again, and that's what we really love about Laurel.

On Ray and Felicity taking their relationship to the, ahem, next level:

Kreisberg: We often talk about what life would be like if Twitter existed back in the days of "Cheers" or "Moonlighting." Part of the fun of watching couples on television is keeping them apart, and watching how other people come in and out of their lives. There are a lot of people who believe that Oliver and Laurel should be together, and people who believe that Oliver and Felicity should be together -- we're not sure how it's all going to end up, we just do what's right at the time.

For right now, Oliver has decided, "I can't do this," and Felicity's not just going to sit around waiting for him. She's probably the most healthy of all of them. He's the one who's shutting himself down emotionally, when he has this amazing person who's basically offering him hope and guidance and friendship and love, and he doesn't feel he deserves it, and doesn't feel that's what's best for her, whether she agrees with it or not.

Then you've got Ray, who in a lot of ways is a real analogue to Oliver. He's had a tragedy, and he's trying to do right by it, but he's opening his heart to her. And he's Brandon Routh, how can you blame her?

What type of effect does Ray Palmer being in operation as The Atom have on the series as a whole?

Guggenheim: I think 317 is definitely the episode you'll want to check out first. It's not just the Felicity/Ray/Oliver love triangle, it's the fact that there's a new superhero in town, and he's going to go about things in a very different way than the Arrow does -- and he's not a part of Team Arrow. Right now, he's just a very smart guy in a very, very powerful suit. Oliver's definitely going to have an opinion, and the first instance of that will be episode 317.

Will the show firmly establish Ra's al Ghul's famed Lazarus Pit?

Guggenheim: I think all the answers to that question have already been presented on the show. You've seen everything you need to see to know where we're headed.

Kreisberg: Our version of Ra's on the TV show is a lot closer to the comic books than you've seen in other live-action adaptations.

Does Oliver's humanity prevent him from taking over for Ra's al Ghul?

Guggenheim: Ra's has an interesting perspective on that question, which you'll get in the first act of 316. One of the things we reveal in 320 is where the name "League of Assassins" came from, and what it means to be an "assassin." If you're an historian, you'll know that it has a different meaning than what it's become in the modern day.

What's next for Thea?

Guggenheim: We're working towards telling a different story with Thea. It's not just always her acting out -- she's processing a huge amount of guilt, and a huge amount of regret. At the end of 15, she's essentially attempting suicide by Nyssa. It's a continuing progression, it's not just going to be a repetition of her acting out. But certainly, in 16, she looks for closure in another way, because spoiler alert: Nyssa's not going to kill Willa Holland's character.

What the future holds for Nyssa:

Law: I think Nyssa's journey going forward is going to be really interesting, just because she was so dead-set on who she was, what she was going to be, how she laid out her future for herself -- then everything's been thrown up in the air. She's no longer heir to the demon, she no longer has her lover. She's essentially, at this point in the story, lost everything. I think for the first time in her life, she is vulnerable, and she feels weak, and she feels useless, and doesn't know where she stands or who she is at the moment. It's very jarring for her, because she's never had to go through that, ever, in any capacity in her life before. You're going to see Nyssa trying to figure out who she is, and what she stands for now.

On the significance of seeing Malcolm legitimately afraid:

John Barrowman: The one person that you fear is Ra's. He's touched on that fear prior, in moments when he's been talking to Thea -- "We should be scared, we need to leave the city." But to finally see him in front [of Ra's], he knows that he is not in control at that point. There's not much he can do. He has to face the maker, and he knows what he can do, because he was one of his assassins.

I think it's important that you see the fear in Malcolm. The one thing I've read with people who have "fallen" for Malcolm, the best compliment they give me is, "Oh my God, we hate you. But we love you!" They get why he's doing it, and they understand why he's doing what he's doing. That's why it's important to show that emotional side to him, because that's what the fans then connect with, to see it's not just a villain -- there's something right behind it. There's a reason to why he's doing it. There is a reason as to why he's scared, and you're finding out."

http://www.comicbookresources.com/ar...e-of-assassins

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"Two more major casting additions have been made to Supergirl, with Homeland's Davide Harewood set to play Hank Henshaw and Grey's Anatomy alum Chyler Leigh cast as Alexandra "Alex" Danvers. This version of the character better known to comic book fans as Cyborg Superman is a one-time CIA agent who now runs the Department of Extra-Normal Operations (DEO), which tracks extraterrestrial threats on Earth. Alex meanwhile is the confident foster sister of Kara. Fascinated by Kara's powers from a young age, Alex developed a lifelong obsession with science that inspired her to become a doctor. Even more exciting than this is the fact that Arrow and The Flash's Andrew Kreisberg has joined Greg Berlanti and Ali Adler as a writer and executive producer."

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=115893

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this was a lazarus pit

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cool episode

Felicity got laid, so there's that

Shows over for me

[Immitis]

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"Finally, in another bit of news to speculate wildly about, Deadline reports that the team will also include three major DC heroes we haven't seen on TV yet"

ZATANNA ZATANNA ZATANNA



DO EEEEEEEEEEET!!!! @_@

[Cattleya]

I am hoping that is the biggest Arrow spoilers ever to drop. Sara never died, whole thing was staged by her and Merlyn to bring about the change in leadership and direction of the league, so that they could be free.

I dunno, it's pretty hard to fake death by having someone shoot you in the chest three times with an arrow, fall off a roof and then have your sister find you and believe you're actually dead.

If Sara Lance actually comes back, it'd be easier to believe Nyssa dropped her in a lazarus pit. Then again, I also thought a lazarus pit would be what saved Oliver from the midseason cliffhanger, so what do I know?

[Immitis]

I dunno, it's pretty hard to fake death by having someone shoot you in the chest three times with an arrow, fall off a roof and then have your sister find you and believe you're actually dead.

If Sara Lance actually comes back, it'd be easier to believe Nyssa dropped her in a lazarus pit. Then again, I also thought a lazarus pit would be what saved Oliver from the midseason cliffhanger, so what do I know?

i still say there was lazarus pit water or something in the tea. maseo specifically said katana brought him back to life

[Skizzit]

I
also off topic, but does anyone here watch the 100? like arrow that show was a little meh in the first season but this 2nd season has been some amazing tv. its weird how cw has gone from tween romance bullshit channel to this channel with a shit ton of great genre shows.

Right? The 100 is way, way better then it has any reason to be. It started with all that teen romance drama crap but then some time near the end of the first season they made the really smart decision to dump that and now it's a really solid genre show with quite a few great characters. The only reason I didn't drop the series in the first season was because I was sick as hell and stuck in bed with nothing better to do but keep watching it. I am really glad I did though.

I started watching 100, but didn't really care for the premise so just forgot about it.

The first season is pretty bad and stuffed with lame teen romance crap but under that is a pretty solid series. It has turned into a war series between various factions of survivors on a post apocalyptic earth. It reminds me of the good parts of Falling Skies actually.

[Gallahadd]

Yeah been watching the 100 as well, and despite being a touch racist and a kinda reminding me of the Tribe, I'm really liking the second season.

Mostly because Holy fucking shit they just totally iced Finn... DID NOT see that shit coming. Glad he's dead though he's a fucking toolbag

Watching it on E4 in the UK, so I'm a bit behind the US, but it's really jumped a whole bunch since season one.

[Immitis]

im gonna make my 3 wishlist for the spinoff unrevealed heroes. some sources online are saying that when they said never seen on tv yet they meant never seen on flash/arrow. so im gonna just work with who hasnt been on flash/arrow yet.

1. Zatanna.

shes awesome nuff said. and the arrow folks earlier this year when it was speculated she would show up in an arrow episode said theyd love to use her character in the future



2. Booster gold.

super douche from the future? why the hell not. booster gold is awesome, i love arsehole heroes. were in a world where wow just added in selfies, you gonna try to tell me a dude from the future wouldnt use his future knowledge and tech to make him seem like the coolest hero ever? imagine booster gold taking "past selfies" of his heroics while slowly getting in over his head and actually becoming a cool guy.



3. ms martian.

she has a cool set of powers, and shes a little bit more alien then supergirl is, i dont think the arrow guys would be allowed to use martian manhunter since dc probably has plans for him so she would be a good replacement like supergirl is for superman.



excluded but hope they might be in: jamie reyes/blue beetle, static shock, red robin. we know they cant use the blue beetle because they planned on having blue beetle instead of atom this season and dc said no, static is getting a live action online series so he probably wont be on tv, and red robin is too connected to batman to be able to be on the show probably.

also its possible one of the characters on the team could be a live action vixen

[Immitis]

"According to TV Line, the season three finale of Arrow will introduce what they describe as a "major, formidable, fierce new foe" for Oliver Queen, and his "reign of terror" is something which will then continue well into season four of The CW series. The character however is being described internally as "Damian Dark", and the site goes on to speculate that this could be some sort of version of Damian Wayne (minus the Batman connection). It makes sense that we could be introduced to Talia's son, and seeing The Arrow battle a version of The Heretic would be very cool and certainly matches the description. What do you guys think? Share your theories below.."

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit...news/?a=116129

HOLY FUCK BALLS @_@

DAMIAN WAYNE IS THE FUCKING COOLEST!



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please please please cw, CAST AN ACTUAL CHILD FOR THIS ROLE @_@

you know who would actually make a good damian? that kid who plays bruce on gotham, they should get him. have that kid beat the shit out of oliver

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"Series star Stephen Amell has been praised for his use of social media, and he's taken to both Facebook and Twitter to tease what appears to be the impending farewell of an "Arrow" player. Monday on Twitter, Amell wrote, "Sometimes real feelings creep into a scene. Goodbyes are tough. Even when they're scripted." That same day on Facebook, he stated, "Putting the finishing touches on our 65th episode tonight. It features one of the most emotional, touching and heartfelt scenes we've ever produced. Everyone was equal to the task. Long day, but a good one."

It's not yet known who the goodbye was directed to, or what made the scene so emotional, but given that he's talking about the show's 65th episode -- which will be episode 19 of the current season -- fans will likely be able to see for themselves sometime in April."

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/new-arrow-villain-teased-stephen-amell-hypes-an-emotional-goodbye

RIP roy

[Gallahadd]

Roy is ffuucckkeeddddddddd......

Then they'll bring on Damien "totally not Wayne" Dark, who will set himself up as the primary antagonist for the first half of next season, leading in to Amanda Waller in the second half. Calling it now