Depends how close you are with full crit reforge, if its only like 100 rating, then sure go for it, but if its way out there, I think the loss of crit will result in more grey hairs if nothing else. And at 40% selfbuffed, you should have enough stat budged to clear the 5100 hit, reforge full crit and still get 5036 haste. So you will reach the haste when you reach it pretty much, it's just after that point that you might want to start looking at mastery.
WHAT IS OPTIMUM LEVEL TO SWITCH TO FIRE PVE RAIDING?
Currently a 516 Frost Mage, for both remainder of 5.3 and 5.4 at what ilevel does Fire become convincingly better than Frost? ie. when should I switch? If this is already answered I couldn't find it. thanks
If you want a really simple answer, it's around 38-39% crit rating, and with normal trinkets. Higher if you don't have 4pc T15 (./sob)
If you want a more complicated answer - it depends. If you have some boss trinkets, the meta gem, and can reach high levels of haste AND while also being able to take advantage of NT/LB snapshotting at a high level (aka you're a really fucking good frost mage) people have played through 5.3 as frost just fine.
I'd say once you're nearly in BiS heroic gear, however, the ability for superior play to keep the gap closed / close between Fire and Frost will decrease significantly.
Any update on what the best offpiece is?
Earlier I thought it was agreed that the Horridon head piece was the best, but some people like Kuznam are going for the Primordius chest off piece.
Thanks! I'll keep that in mind
Quick question, I can obtain another 1.2% crit by losing 1k spell power, is it worth it? Or should I keep the spellpower? I'd be at 37.5% crit and 25090 spellpower by doing this, or 36.3% crit and 26,120 spellpower by not doing it.
My guess is it has something to do with trinkets, Cha-ye vs some Int trinket?... But ye he dont explain much.
@lydude He may have said it in a rude way. But he's got a point, fire at that gear lvl is not so good, frost is better until at least 38% crit, pref. 40+. And your question is kind of "dumb" as it should be self explanatory(even for a guide) that 1k spell power is better than 1.2% crit.. Sometimes you just reap what you sow.
Last edited by mmocd79892434a; 2013-07-07 at 04:01 PM.
Fire is decent at almost anything 500+
As to put it past the 2 ignorant people...
Spell power is better then crit.. Even though we need it.. you would never really sacrifice any for more crit.. (like downgrading a weapon)
1.2% crit is lots...
I looked at your armory.. and I seen you did all crit gems? It's good an all.. But you're missing out on tons of int(sp/crit)... So it's not really the best option...
You're also shy on haste..
9 times out of 10, getting socket bonus is better (especially in MOP) becuase since.. FOR EXAMPLE 160 int is very close to 320 crit.. split gems (int/crit) are equally as effective... so using those, getting the bonus from sockets make it worth while...
I dont know your raid and gear idea with your mage.. but drop some valor on weapon up and trinket ups.. it will make a little diff.
I love when people call me ignorant. But space do you know the difference between decent, and better/best?.. guess not.
I dont see you playing frost at all(besides pvp) so i am just assuming you never tested the two specs against each other.