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    Are there dailies in Rift?

    I just really started doing dailies in MoP and I am already bored with them, so I am considering giving Rift another go. I left the game before the first patch, but I believe a lot of changes were made and the new expansion looks promising.

    So, are dailies also the main path of progression in Rift? I love playing solo, but doing dailies forever is not something I want to do. Do you need to grind rep via dailies in Rift to get crafting recipes, etc?

    I don't mind rep grinding, but I hate doing it via dailies. I would rather kill 1000 mobs in my own time than having to do a few dailies and then wait until the next day to continue.

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    You like grinding mobs for rep? lol oh man, you'll take care of the Mathosia rep out in Stillmoor pretty quick!

    The thing about Rift's dailies are they are not too grindy, don't take forever to complete, and are more intriguing. Personally I don't even really feel the *NEED* to do them, the reputations I find don't really give anything that you NEED, so the issue isn't there that you'll be in trouble with your raid leader if you don't up the reputations ASAP.

    As far as the whole progression thing goes, you can do dailies, you can farm rifts, hunt rifts are coming, zone events/invasions, world events, dungeons, instant adventures, raiding, warfronts, conquest.

    Yeah, there's a TON of options. I personally do a little of each and I feel I get to experience the most and don't get too worn out on any, but I actually find I've really become a heavy-PVP player in Rift, oddly enough. I have always liked PVP, but Rift is the first game where I find I'll just do tons of warfronts and even go out and PVP people in the open world, I just love it! Grab a warrior from my guild and me being a glass cannon mage, we just go and have shit tons of fun. I love it when like 5-10 Defiants are up against 5-10 Guardians.... but sigh, the Guardians are the care-bears and usually give up pretty easy.
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    I just really started doing dailies in MoP and I am already bored with them, so I am considering giving Rift another go. I left the game before the first patch, but I believe a lot of changes were made and the new expansion looks promising.

    So, are dailies also the main path of progression in Rift? I love playing solo, but doing dailies forever is not something I want to do. Do you need to grind rep via dailies in Rift to get crafting recipes, etc?

    I don't mind rep grinding, but I hate doing it via dailies. I would rather kill 1000 mobs in my own time than having to do a few dailies and then wait until the next day to continue.
    There are 7 different mechanisms (that I'm aware of) to gain rep in Rift.

    1. Some Factions provide rep through dungeons, Raids and Mob killing (Order of Mathos, Dragonslayer covenant)
    2. Other factions provide rep through dailies and dungeons. (Icewatch)
    3. Rift factions can be obtained trough Rift/invasion closing and Daily Raid Rifts (easily puggable) and Daily Expert Rifts
    4. Instant Adventures are also another mechanism whereby you can gain Rep (Farclan for Ember Isle, Order of Mathos for mathosia, Dragonslayer covenant for Shimmersad, and the low level zones grant rep for the specific factions in those zones.
    5. Chronicles also provide (small) rep gains (RoS provides Order of Mathos rep, HK provides Runeguard)
    6. In some zones, rare mob kills will give you a quest item that can be traded in for rep - sometimes as much as 800 rep per kill. People on some servers will announce that they have found them and ask who wants to join.
    7.Of course, Zone quests give a lot of faction specific rep, (sometimes up to 1,000 Rep per quest) and its a lot of fun to mentor down to complete them (you go down to level 35 for example and do some quests in the Moonshade Highlands)


    I will add that the reputation system in Rift is daunting - you need 60,000 rep from revered to glorified.

    Edit: to answer your question on recipies, some of the most desirable drops for professions come through expert instances, and a lot of the crafting has become sorta nullified, so you are not pigeon holed into doing anything specific to get gear; for example, completing Rifts and invasions will allow you to acquire epic gear, running heroics, doing raid rifts and expert rifts, doing actual raids, gaining rep provides gear, and you can acquire marks to buy raid gears by running the LFG tool (all three raid tier marks can be obtained that way). if you like solo content then chronicles are single player and two player dungeons and you can obtain epic gear by running them (low drop rate though) and through the marks you obtain from killing chronicle bosses.

    Gear acquired through solo play isn't as viable as group play, but if you're not running group content it really isn't necessary.
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    I've seen the daily gripe surfacing in MOP more and more and 5.1 is giving a new daily hub?

    Anyways Rift in fact has dailies and lots of them in Vanilla not certain how much in the xpac. With that being said most aren't mandatory except for a few best enchants. The rest are a little more seemless and just additional rewards for things you may do already. PVP dailies, Raid dailies/weeklies, dungeon etc etc. Typically if you do dailies of any sort something will occur in the world that will completely side track you.

    Too sum it up there are tons of dailies but they aren't a "focal" part of the endgame. I forgot there are crafting dailies etc etc with mat type and a currency rewards to buy patterns more I'm sure I've missed.

    I think the answer you're looking for is yes lots of dailies but tons of other things to do besides raiding which most people think are the two things to do in MMO endgame.

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    There are dailies, and I have never touched them except the odd daily PvP quest for bonus PvP rewards, same for crafting. Oh and the daily dungeon/weekly raid for more Marks (same as Badges/Emblems in WoW) for gear. But all the rep ones, the fishing stuff, etc. No thanks. I want to play the game, not grind mindlessly. And I am Glorified with every faction too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azuri View Post
    I've seen the daily gripe surfacing in MOP more and more and 5.1 is giving a new daily hub?

    Anyways Rift in fact has dailies and lots of them in Vanilla not certain how much in the xpac.
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    I think they're still going to have dailies, but focus even less on them, I mean shit they're putting in entirely new ways to kill time. ;o

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    Edit: to answer your question on recipies, some of the most desirable drops for professions come through expert instances, and a lot of the crafting has become sorta nullified, so you are not pigeon holed into doing anything specific to get gear; for example, completing Rifts and invasions will allow you to acquire epic gear, running heroics, doing raid rifts and expert rifts, doing actual raids, gaining rep provides gear, and you can acquire marks to buy raid gears by running the LFG tool (all three raid tier marks can be obtained that way). if you like solo content then chronicles are single player and two player dungeons and you can obtain epic gear by running them (low drop rate though) and through the marks you obtain from killing chronicle bosses.
    Honestly, when I found out about this, I was so happy. I was really displeased with Blizzard essentially phasing out the Vanilla/TBC way of getting some of the top tier crafting recipes in dungeons/raids in later WotLK and Cata.

    I really hope Rift continues it, perhaps even making it more apparent. I really love getting reasons to go out and do dungeons and raids and just hope something like that drops.

    Give me classic Stratholme-type of recipe farming, essentially. And those old old old class quests type of things. NOSTALGIAAAAA

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post

    Honestly, when I found out about this, I was so happy. I was really displeased with Blizzard essentially phasing out the Vanilla/TBC way of getting some of the top tier crafting recipes in dungeons/raids in later WotLK and Cata.

    I really hope Rift continues it, perhaps even making it more apparent. I really love getting reasons to go out and do dungeons and raids and just hope something like that drops.

    Give me classic Stratholme-type of recipe farming, essentially. And those old old old class quests type of things. NOSTALGIAAAAA

    ahhhhhhhhhhhh
    Brings back many memories as well, and fond ones. truth is though now I'm really enjoying the new questing system. Epic pants for completing the EI story quest chain? Helm and Shoulders from the Epic Water Saga? fancy titles and rewards for things that do not necessarily require raiding? thank you very much, please sir, some more.

    the questing system has seriously taken a hit from the community in general at game's launch but with every patch the new additions have created complex, intriguing and better ways to obtain new things while still encouraging outreach to the community. Hell, that staff from the "god slayer" epic life saga quest chain is worth every single step, and considering that GSB is really dated and easily puggable now, it is something nice to do and/or complete. I hope they introduce many many more SL.
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    lol.... the only like, truly lore-y quest lines I've fully completed other than Freemarch zone, were the Crucia story in IPP.... can't find the last 10 quests though for the zone achievement. -.-

    And the Endless Saga, holy shit that was amazing AND LONG.
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    There are 3 semi-needed daily grinds- boot, helm and shoulder enchants iirc. They are pretty fast going since you get rep for doing the dungeons, dailies, regular kills, etc. Can even buy the daily items in bulk on the AH. Icewatch rep can be maxed in like 2 days.

    Dailies are not really a progression path though. Most dailies just give some gold, planar currency, mini-pets, mounts and stuff.

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    Nearly all the dailies in Rift have a 'pool' of quests so you will find them different each day, although a few will be the same ones everytime, but at least there is some variety

    You don't really have to do dailies but some of the better gear enchants for helm, belt and leggings can only be got from getting Glorified with the three big boys factions: Icewatch in IPP, Stillmoor guys and the Dragon guys in Shimmersand

    Also the Ember isle guys offer some nice wardrobe pieces for rep, a few decent recipes etc, all four factions also offer different mounts at Glorified, all depends if you like to collect pets and mounts i guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    You like grinding mobs for rep? lol oh man, you'll take care of the Mathosia rep out in Stillmoor pretty quick!

    The thing about Rift's dailies are they are not too grindy, don't take forever to complete, and are more intriguing.
    In what possible way do WoW dailies take long at all to complete? And more intriguing my ass. I love Rift, but don't kid yourselves.

    But yes, the answer is yes. There are dailies.

    Don't really get the fuss people are making about WoW dailies. I mean, unless you're in an insanely competitive progression race, you'll get better gear from raiding anyway than rep gear anyway. It's just temporary band-aid gear. And if you're just going for the charms like I do, it's a very un-intrusive time commitment to get enough lesser charms for the weekly conversion.
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    Something I don't believe that was touched on: Dailies in Rift are often simply bonuses to tasks you'd already be doing. It's not so much "if you want this helm, you need to prove yourself by providing enemas for 20 sick soldiers every day for 2 weeks", as it is "go run a few Instant Adventures and I'll award you with the endgame currency everyone needs".

    There are daily quests you can do for professions (similar to Jewelcrafting dailies in WoW) and there is the occasional hub-style daily, but generally speaking, the dailies revolve around closing rifts (which everyone is going to do, regardless of dailies), earning rep (totally unessential), or running dungeons/raids/PvP events.

    They are dailies, but they're not something you do IN ADDITION to your plans. They're part of your plans already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veyne View Post
    In what possible way do WoW dailies take long at all to complete? And more intriguing my ass. I love Rift, but don't kid yourselves.

    But yes, the answer is yes. There are dailies.

    Don't really get the fuss people are making about WoW dailies. I mean, unless you're in an insanely competitive progression race, you'll get better gear from raiding anyway than rep gear anyway. It's just temporary band-aid gear. And if you're just going for the charms like I do, it's a very un-intrusive time commitment to get enough lesser charms for the weekly conversion.
    Um. I never really mentioned WoW dailies in my OP, while the first guy was talking about WoW dailies, I was more speaking in general.

    If I am to talk about WoW dailies though....

    YOU MUST DO THIS TO RIDE THIS ROLLER COASTER.
    FARM ME 20 BEAR ASSES AND COME BACK TOMORROW AND DO THE SAME.
    Oh this escort quest is bugged.

    Yeah, that's about it. Sorry bro.

    Rift dailies can be like that or far more intuitive. I do wish the PVP dailies were a little less "go out and grind these mobs" and more about focusing on PVP elements. Go fucking raid this damn Guardian god-humping outpost and bring back the spoils and the women! MWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! But at least almost 24/7, if you go to do your PVP dailies, at least on Deepwood, you are very very likely to run into someone from the other faction and get some PVP going. And Deepwood is a PVE server.
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    Not sure about SL, but Rift absolutely has a ton of daily's if you want to do them. You don't need to though, which is the awesome part. I've barely done any because I really really dislike traditional daily quests. The only daily quests I did for any length of time was the daily rift raid, because the rewards are good and it's doing and actual activity (with others!) rather than repeating the exact same quest, and a daily quest (for like...a week or two?) on Ember Isle to finish off my rep grind there.

    I haven't really felt like I ever needed to do dailies to progress or get anything, which is great given my opinion on them : )

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    Um. I never really mentioned WoW dailies in my OP, while the first guy was talking about WoW dailies, I was more speaking in general.
    Been seeing WoW daily quest bitchfests keep popping up, so I put two and two together, and may have gotten five out of it. I apologize, been in a ranty mood lately. People are making a big deal, whining about something that's by no means new or vastly different. Gamers lately have been making me want to smack them upside their head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veyne View Post
    Been seeing WoW daily quest bitchfests keep popping up, so I put two and two together, and may have gotten five out of it. I apologize, been in a ranty mood lately. People are making a big deal, whining about something that's by no means new or vastly different. Gamers lately have been making me want to smack them upside their head.
    Gamers can be very annoying (regardless of game) agreed. I've seen more and more posts pop about MoP dailies but I really don't follow WoW so can't comment beyond seeing them pop up in the new post section.

    I think all MMO'S have some sort of dailies. It's only annoying if devolpers make it mandatory or consider this a main feature of their content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azuri View Post
    Gamers can be very annoying (regardless of game) agreed. I've seen more and more posts pop about MoP dailies but I really don't follow WoW so can't comment beyond seeing them pop up in the new post section.

    I think all MMO'S have some sort of dailies. It's only annoying if devolpers make it mandatory or consider this a main feature of their content.

    The dailies in Wow and Rift are essentially the same. They are no more intuitive in either game (like some say). A daily is a daily. My wife plays Wow, I play Rift so I have firsthand knowledge of the new system.

    The complaints in wow are because there's no daily cap so people obsess about doing every single daily every day. Then cry about not being able to complete them when in essence you must have valor points to buy the stuff when you hit revered. So in reality you only need to do 1 or 2 reputations at a time because you're capped weekly on valor so maxing them all at once has no benefit even for those hardcore raiders. That's why the complaining is nothing but lack of self control.

    There was a reason why Blizzard capped dailies at 25 and Rift follows the same formula.

    I just discovered that Glorified required 60k notoriety and cried a little inside last night. But then I ran my first raid and earned about 10 or 15k so it felt a bit better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azuri View Post
    Gamers can be very annoying (regardless of game) agreed. I've seen more and more posts pop about MoP dailies but I really don't follow WoW so can't comment beyond seeing them pop up in the new post section.

    I think all MMO'S have some sort of dailies. It's only annoying if devolpers make it mandatory or consider this a main feature of their content.
    Being mandatory is a false illusion. It's weird though, when there's a cap, people don't think it's necessary to hit the cap. When there's no cap, people feel the need to do every single daily in the game. There's this rep thing, and the charms thing, but the rep doesn't take long at all if you really, really feel the need to get rep gear. People just want things instantaneously. As for the charms, sure, you could use them to "stay competitive," but if you really want them as well, it doesn't take much time commitment each week to get them. By no means no more than your full Golden Lotus set a few times a week, or maybe just one set each day, which go by really quickly anyway.
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    Yeah dailies are dailies for the most part. Just don't make it a focal part of my endgame experience. Many of the Rift dailies are just rewards for things you were going to do anyways like the daily raid rift, PVP etc etc where other dailies are straight out regular old crap for farming rep or some item you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azuri View Post
    Yeah dailies are dailies for the most part. Just don't make it a focal part of my endgame experience. Many of the Rift dailies are just rewards for things you were going to do anyways like the daily raid rift, PVP etc etc where other dailies are straight out regular old crap for farming rep or some item you want.
    I would venture that in addition, it takes me what, 20 minutes to complete all 7-8 EI daily quests? the reward for rep gain is costumes and novelty items - the useful stuff - recipes and food and the like is obtained at the decorated/honored level so there is no need whatsoever to go all the way up to revered or glorified unless you want the final bits of a cosmetic tune up - keeper or far clan outfits to be precise.
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