Not satisfied with Tailoring

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I'm a pve mage, but Tailoring seems to have lost its appeal to me. Crafted items are garbage for a fire mage and they go really cheap on my realm, really not worth the Imperial Silk. I was thinking of changing Tailoring with Alchemy, since it is a good profession and it will save me a lot of flasks when raiding. The question is, is the increased flask effect from Alchemy (+320 intellect) equal to Lightweave embroidery in terms of dps? If anyone knows the math, I would be grateful

[Farabee]

I'm just saving my Imperial Silk up for Golden Lotus Honored on my tailoring alts. The pants threads are going for 1k a pop on my server.

Also, about a month from now when my tailors are August Celestial Exalted I'm pretty sure the 28-slot bags will make a pretty penny considering how much of a premium storage space is at.

[Deleted]

Yeah, I was thinking about the bags, also the enchants. Hm, maybe I will keep Tailoring a bit more.

[Bonkura]

For me, as Affliction Warlock, the embroidery from Tailoring gives me around 500 intellect.

[Matt0193]

I'm only annoyed that Tailoring doesn't have to use Spirits to make epics while everyone else does. Same extends for the Raid-drop patterns, you still don't need Spirits -.-

[Anjkh]

I've just switched to engineering from tailoring, but more from a pvp point of view.. I've though about all the tailoring recipes acquired since BC, and they don't even compare to the amount of fun bombs, glider, rocket boots, wormhole, etc provides ^^.
Also I've considered the 28 slot bag, but IMO isn't worth it.. it's so expensive, you can't really "pump them out", and too many players investing in BMAH, gearing up, professions, etc.

As for the lightweave vs passive Alch effect, I think it depends on the way you want to play: If you're stacking cooldowns, the lightweave proc is better, but unreliable. However, a passive boost is constantly.

[Tomec]

Also I've considered the 28 slot bag, but IMO isn't worth it.. it's so expensive, you can't really "pump them out"

Have you thought about the spirit of harmony conversion? 3 Spirits and 5 Bolts. Bolts are easy to get, and at 90 with just a little farming for things like cooking tokens or cloth you'll be rolling in the Motes, especially if you don't really have much to spend them on (my main who isn't a tailor but has little to spend them on besides tradeskill things is currently sitting on like 20 spirits...). Plus that is totally ignoring the farm, where you can get 16/day. So 32 every 2 days, or basically an extra cloth. So in 2 days you get 3 cloths, bringing it down to 8 days a bag without the random Spirits you'll get just going out and killing things (which you'll have to do to get the rep for the bag, giving you a nice stockpile).

Now whether it's better to make the bags or other epics or spell thread will depend on your server... But think of this, the bags will ALWAYS be in demand and it wouldn't surprise me at all if they sold for over 15k because of the use and other rep and things. I mean I think at their height in Cata weren't Illusionary up in the 20k range on some servers? So 15k may be way lower than what it'll actually be, especially in this "inflated" economy.

[Pooutine]

Dont forget the int/crit int/spirit leg enchants. They are selling for 1500-1800 on my server atm. Just being able to use 3 eternium thread for said enchants, nothing but a plus. Not to mention that lightweave is the best profession bonus for any caster dps.

[chipsky]

I could substitute any profession for this topic... and they are all server dependent. On one of my servers, Tailoring is a drop dead massive money maker... on another it is barely worth having. I churn Imperial Silk and mule it across to the profitable server.

[scuac]

The question is, is the increased flask effect from Alchemy (+320 intellect) equal to Lightweave embroidery in terms of dps? If anyone knows the math, I would be grateful

The math unsurprisingly comes out to Lightweave on average is about +320 Intellect. Of course, in some fights it might proc sooner each time and you get more benefit, or take forever to proc and lose stat value. But if you are a mage also consider this, if you line up a proc of Lightweave with Alter Time, you can gain an extra 6s of the buff, which increases its value enormously. You cannot do that with static profession buffs.

[Orange Joe]

I'm only annoyed that Tailoring doesn't have to use Spirits to make epics while everyone else does. Same extends for the Raid-drop patterns, you still don't need Spirits -.-

Without spirits we are limited to 1 cloth per day. What other profession has their mats limited?

[Deleted]

Without spirits we are limited to 1 cloth per day. What other profession has their mats limited?

Smithing with Living Steel?

[Orange Joe]

Smithing with Living Steel?

Living steel is tradable. Imperial silk isn't

[Krimson]

Without spirits we are limited to 1 cloth per day. What other profession has their mats limited?

The profit margin on the cloth cooldown however is huge, so it's hardly worth complaining about. Epics on my server are still selling around the 1000g per imperial silk mark, and the 8 windwool bolts to make the silk costs next to nothing.

Most other professions are limited by spirits. I'd rather be limited by a cooldown then having to farm spirits.

[Boogums]

Without spirits we are limited to 1 cloth per day. What other profession has their mats limited?

Scribes?
Jewelcrafters?
Alchemists?

[Deleted]

Without spirits we are limited to 1 cloth per day. What other profession has their mats limited?

Inscription with Scroll of Wisdoms?

[Orange Joe]

Inscription with Scroll of Wisdoms?

There is a repeatable quest to get more scrolls.

[Cirira]

There is a repeatable quest to get more scrolls.

That quest requires Spirits. Isn't that basically what Tailoring does then?

[Orange Joe]

Scribes?
Jewelcrafters?
Alchemists?

Scribs can get scrolls through a quest. Not to mention they only need scrolls for cards and the staff.
Funny thing is scribes don't need motes either.

I don't know what you mean with alchemy? What limits them? all herbs are farmable.

And how are jewelcrafters limited?

[Xeraxis]

Without spirits we are limited to 1 cloth per day. What other profession has their mats limited?

The spirits are the other professions limitation.