Will this be a good build for WoW on ultra settings?

[Voski]

Hi

I want to get a desktop computer and I currently only have a macbook pro going from Marest's guide I got this build. I have a Seagate barracuda HD and I am going to try to salvage a disk drive from an old computer. I will try to use my TV as a monitor it has a VGA input. I want this computer for WoW on ultra in PvP more so than 25 man raids, being able to record gameplay would be a huge plus. Also would there be any issues with me using a VGA input from the DVI output? The TV supports 720P not 1080p.

MoBo: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP – $79.99 #: N82E16813157302
CPU: Intel i5 3350P – $189.99 #: N82E16819116782
RAM: G.Skill 1600MHz 2x4GB – $33.99 #: N82E16820231422
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 560– $169.99 #N82E16814130661
PSU: Raidmax 530W modular – $39.99 #: N82E16817152028
Case:BitFenix Merc Alpha– $49.99 #: N82E16811345014

total price is $563.94.

I can not post links so I provided the newegg item numbers. If there are any better choices I would appreciate any advice.

Thanks

[RaZz0r]

I would go for a I5 2500k as it runs on higher stock clocks and you can easily clock it with out much hassle.
As for the gfx card i would go with a 660ti or at least a 560ti but the card is still quite dated but its still decent.

As for the PSU i don't know much about the brand but the little info i managed to find about it was basically.
Avoid like the plague so i would go with a 600W 80 plus certified PSU From ether Corsair Seasonic or cooler master.

Also i would go with a Asrock Z77 Extreme4 instead of the ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP.
I would also look in to getting a SSD for the boot drive but that is completely optional.

[Lolkrayd]

might as well grab i5 3570k ivy bridge not saying the 2500k is bad or anything just new tech.

I would try to find a amd 7850 as it is better and around that price I believe.

If you're not going to overclock go with a b75 motherboard

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ko9b perhaps something like this.

[RaZz0r]

might as well grab i5 3570k ivy bridge not saying the 2500k is bad or anything just new tech.

I would try to find a amd 7850 as it is better and around that price I believe.

If you're not going to overclock go with a b75 motherboard

This is true tho keep in mind that the Ivy bridge CPU's runs a fair bit hotter then the Sandy bridge CPU's.
So you wont be able to push it as much if your planing on overclocking your CPU

[inux94]

might as well grab i5 3570k ivy bridge not saying the 2500k is bad or anything just new tech.

I would try to find a amd 7850 as it is better and around that price I believe.

If you're not going to overclock go with a b75 motherboard

When you're on a tight budget then the 2500k is more suitable, every dollar counts.

Agreeing on the 7850 though, it'll max out WoW pretty solid.

[Voski]

Thank you for your replies.

I read that blizzard games are biased towards nvidia graphics but if you guys are saying the AMD card is better I will go with that. The 2500k is more expensive than the 3570k. I found this 3570k on tigers direct on sale it looks like it is better than the ones you guys recommeded but I do not know for sure. Item:I69-3570K | Model:BX80637I53570K.

[RaZz0r]

Thank you for your replies.

I read that blizzard games are biased towards nvidia graphics but if you guys are saying the AMD card is better I will go with that. The 2500k is more expensive than the 3570k. I found this 3570k on tigers direct on sale it looks like it is better than the ones you guys recommeded but I do not know for sure. Item:I69-3570K | Model:BX80637I53570K.

As for GFX both AMD And Nvidia are equal in wow.
It all comes down to preference as for the CPU's just watch this video and go with the one thats matching you the best

[Voski]

MoBo: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard – $134.99 #:N82E16813157293
CPU: IIntel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) – $229.99 #: N82E16819116504
RAM: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) – $0.00 #: N82E16820220685 - free with mobo
GPU: HIS H785F2G2M Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16– $199.99 #N82E16814161406
PSU: CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2 (CMPSU-430CXV2) 430W – $49.99 #:N82E16817139026
Case:APEVIA X-JUPITER-JR S– $29.99 #: N82E16811144194

Ok so I went ahead and made some revisions. This build is more expensive it is $645 but seems a lot better. I think it should be more than enough for wow but do you guys see any issues here? Will 430W PSU be enough? I will probably want to add a SSD later on.

All products are from new egg

[Nab]

MoBo: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard – $134.99 #:N82E16813157293
CPU: IIntel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) – $229.99 #: N82E16819116504
RAM: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) – $0.00 #: N82E16820220685 - free with mobo
GPU: HIS H785F2G2M Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16– $199.99 #N82E16814161406
PSU: CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2 (CMPSU-430CXV2) 430W – $49.99 #:N82E16817139026
Case:APEVIA X-JUPITER-JR S– $29.99 #: N82E16811144194

Ok so I went ahead and made some revisions. This build is more expensive it is $645 but seems a lot better. I think it should be more than enough for wow but do you guys see any issues here? Will 430W PSU be enough? I will probably want to add a SSD later on.

All products are from new egg

If you plan on overclocking, I would recommend a 500W.

[Voski]

So everything else looks good?

[Faithh]

If you plan on overclocking, I would recommend a 500W.

He won't need a 500W psu if he only overclocks his cpu. The max TDP is 77Watt but they reach on stockspeed full loaded with prime 95 small fft's (most cpu intensive) only 20-30Watt and the motherboard overvolts the cpu anyway if Turbo is enabled (@1.2V which is already too much for 3.8GHz). With 1.2V you can do easily 4.2GHz but It'll be hard above 4.5GHz.. If he plans to OC he shouldnt be leaving the voltage at auto or even if he doesnt know how to set voltages -> no overclocking please.

With a 7850 and a 3960x the system load is only @ 250W. http://nl.hardware.info/reviews/2577...stroomverbruik

You sure can add an SSD later they only use like 3watt :P

[Voski]

Ya I used the newegg PSU calculator and it was putting me way under 430W. As to over-clocking it seems to be like everyone over clocks everything now a days. Is it simple? I mean if I can bump up my processor speed relatively safely I would like to do that. Reading the reviews on newegg a lot of people are also over-clocking the GPU I have selected. I know its off topic so I might have to start another thread. I am fairly computer literate but I have never over-clocked anything.

[Lemmiwink]

NOTE:
The PSU Wattage we recommend only gives you a general idea on what to consider while selecting a power supply. PCI cards, External devices, USB and Firewire devices, Cooling fans and other components may need more power.

That's from Newegg, heck I wasn't even able to put in all the stuff I had and it wants me to have 543. They don't calculate you might use all of your USB slots, Firewire, Thunderbolt. Or have 8 extra chassis fans installed or maybe a electrically motored front panel. I was having trouble with my 850W Chieftec Ntro not delivering enough power to me on a regular basis so I went and got myself a Corsair AX and now everything is smooth again.

Don't listen to these people when it comes to 2 things; PSU's and amount of RAM. You will only sit there with a PC that can only be used for gaming and light use tasks that have no upgrade potential due to skimped out PSUs. Calculate what you need in Watt, add 30% and you should be good to go.

Remember, if you start overclocking you will increase the temperature of your system, when you increase temperature the PSU will normally run alot hotter than what Wattage the manufacturer tested it in when they decided it was a 450W, it might be effectively only a 410W due to temperatures. Also 430W is divided between all the rails (+12+5+3,3-12-5) meaning most of this will be on the +12 if it's a good quality PSU. Many of these lesser manufacturers amps up the wattage on the other rails to get a nicer number, ignoring the +12 and leaving you in a bad situation should you decide to go with alot of the tips you get on this forum. Like I said, find out your need (400) add 30% (400*1,30=520) and place your order.

[Colt_Darkfire]

to be perfectly honest you actually have more grunt then you need for WoW on Ultra my old desktop was running an old AMD phenom II x4 and old Asus Mbo and a gfx card i bought 4 years ago.
But as you are looking at recording and doing stuff like that your cpu usage will go up even more Especially as WoW is an already CPU intensive game Vs GPU

[Faithh]

That's from Newegg, heck I wasn't even able to put in all the stuff I had and it wants me to have 543. They don't calculate you might use all of your USB slots, Firewire, Thunderbolt. Or have 8 extra chassis fans installed or maybe a electrically motored front panel. I was having trouble with my 850W Chieftec Ntro not delivering enough power to me on a regular basis so I went and got myself a Corsair AX and now everything is smooth again.

Don't listen to these people when it comes to 2 things; PSU's and amount of RAM. You will only sit there with a PC that can only be used for gaming and light use tasks that have no upgrade potential due to skimped out PSUs. Calculate what you need in Watt, add 30% and you should be good to go.

Remember, if you start overclocking you will increase the temperature of your system, when you increase temperature the PSU will normally run alot hotter than what Wattage the manufacturer tested it in when they decided it was a 450W, it might be effectively only a 410W due to temperatures. Also 430W is divided between all the rails (+12+5+3,3-12-5) meaning most of this will be on the +12 if it's a good quality PSU. Many of these lesser manufacturers amps up the wattage on the other rails to get a nicer number, ignoring the +12 and leaving you in a bad situation should you decide to go with alot of the tips you get on this forum. Like I said, find out your need (400) add 30% (400*1,30=520) and place your order.

Don't listen to people when it comes to overclocking, like him.. You're like talking you know a lot about PSU's and overclocking.

"When you increase temperature the PSU will normally run alot hotter than what Wattage the manufacturer tested it in when they decided it was a 450W"

Doesn't make sense at all. Nobody listens to the manufacturer, they all read reviews.

In the reviews they're testing it by forcing the PSU's.

You're talking about Multiple rail PSU's (which are very old), not about single railed PSU's. Nowadays they all are on single rail.

The PCIe connector everything is now at the 12V, even simple molex.

Sorry but, you're using 32GB RAM which I don't see the point of it unless you do RAMCaching on SSD. Using a 350 euro motherboard to reach 4.5GHz which even allows you to use Quad SLI/CF configurations easily (with Every GPU having 8x lanes I can be wrong about lanes) and a single gtx680 being powered by a corsair 1200W.

You only needed 650watt max with such a extremy low low OC on the cpu, and you've added an additional 95%? He had to add 30%?