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    Why don't we Tax or tax more on,

    Why don't we Tax or tax more on,

    Any lighting that isn't an LED Lightbulb?
    Or how about trade tariffs?
    Illegal Drugs? First make them legal, then tax the shit out of them!
    Rich people, especially capital gains?
    Corporation?
    Non green sources of energy?
    Bad food?
    Religious Establishments? (Remove tax credits for charitable donations to churches, because they aren't charities!)


    What else should we tax the hell out of?
    Last edited by morbidone; 2012-11-04 at 05:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morbidone View Post
    Any lighting that isn't an LED Lightbulb?
    It's taxed in the EU.
    Or how about trade tariffs?
    Taxed in the EU.
    Illegal Drugs? First make them legal, then tax the shit out of them!
    Good-ish point; I support it for weed (because it's semi-legal in a lot of places already), but I still think the truly dangerous stuff should at least be heavily regulated.
    Rich people, especially capital gains?
    Taxed in the EU. Severity of taxes depend on the country, though.
    Corporation?
    Taxed in the EU.
    Non green sources of energy?
    Taxed in the EU.

    So... Where are you from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by morbidone View Post
    Any lighting that isn't an LED Lightbulb?
    Or how about trade tariffs?
    Illegal Drugs? First make them legal, then tax the shit out of them!
    Rich people, especially capital gains?
    Corporation?
    Non green sources of energy?


    What else should we tax the hell out of?
    Alcohol, cigarettes, shitty food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morbidone View Post
    Any lighting that isn't an LED Lightbulb?
    Or how about trade tariffs?
    Illegal Drugs? First make them legal, then tax the shit out of them!
    Rich people, especially capital gains?
    Corporation?
    Non green sources of energy?


    What else should we tax the hell out of?
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...d-share-taxes/ - Top 50% of income pay 70% of the taxes.

    Illegal drugs, if they ever are legalized, will very likely be taxed the same way that cigarettes are taxed.

    Last I checked, a tariff is a trade tax. So taxing a tax is kind of pointless.

    Corporations are taxed.

    Oil companies are taxed.

    Pretty sure that electricity is taxed.

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    After looking it up, everything really is taxed already in the EU lol...
    Last edited by dklol; 2012-11-04 at 04:47 AM.
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    Your life?

    Half of those things are 50% of all jobs in a country.

    Also, tax rich ppl, they'll move to another country.

    You think very shallow.

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    But, they already do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galil ACE View Post
    Tax Beliefs.

    Tax Excess of wealth.
    This too...

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    Everything that has been suggested thus far is taxed in the EU! Except illegal drugs and beliefs :>

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    Or , well , we pay tax for churches as well so even beliefs are taxed here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dklol View Post
    So tell me where you get all those LEDs from, and how you replace the already build light bulbs and get rid of them without causing more harm for the evironment...
    You get them from... Well; the supermarket. You don't need to change the sockets; they go into the same ones. They're more expensive to buy, but they last forever and use only a negligible amount of energy. To be honest: All my lamps are LED. Getting rid of the old ones? The metal can be re-used, and so can the glass.
    Again, tell me how we could generate enough with "green" methods, and don't come with stuff like solar energy, that's as bad for the environtment as other non-green methods atm...
    Please enlighten me how solar energy is just as bad for the environment? Sure; production and transport are both taxing, but the same goes for oil, gas and coal... And then you haven't even burnt the stuff yet. In addition, you need to get more oil and coal to keep the supply up, whereas a solar-panel just keeps on delivering. So that's really not an argument.
    Also: Iceland is already on 100% green energy (thermal). Germany is heading there, already using... I believe 50%? The Netherlands, at a measly 16%, just agreed to a goal of reaching 100% green energy by 2050. And that's considering the technology we've got NOW.

    So yeah... Don't let the oil companies get to you with their 'scientific data.' Please remember that not too long ago, Shell proved that leaded petrol was harmless to people, while Monsanto proved, 'scientifically,' that dioxine was perfectly safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galil ACE View Post
    Tax stupidity.
    You'd have to liquidate this thread to meet its tax burden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morbidone View Post
    Any lighting that isn't an LED Lightbulb?
    Or how about trade tariffs?
    Illegal Drugs? First make them legal, then tax the shit out of them!
    Rich people, especially capital gains?
    Corporation?
    Non green sources of energy?

    What else should we tax the hell out of?
    Lighting: Most states impose a sales tax on all lightbulbs.
    Trade Tariffs: This IS a tax by definition.
    Illegal Drugs: Most illegal drugs are dangerous. The rare exception (pot, for example) is easily produced by virtually anyone. And if virtually anyone can produce it, why would they buy it and pay a tax?
    Non-green sources of energy: Already taxed.
    Capital Gains: Already taxed.

    Rich people: This is where your ignorance shows. You're confusing tax rate with taxes paid. Generally speaking the wealthy can find "loop-holes" to avoid many tax laws. However they inevitably pay taxes. By contrast the poor and working poor (which really covers most people who don't own a small business) have a higher tax rate but generally PAY NO TAXES. For example: I work full time and live on my own. However I classify as "working poor," because I make below a certain amount. As a result I don't owe federal income tax. In fact the feds have always ended up paying me at the end of the year.

    Please try and do at least some research before posting this sort of stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stir View Post
    It's taxed in the EU.

    Taxed in the EU.

    Good-ish point; I support it for weed (because it's semi-legal in a lot of places already), but I still think the truly dangerous stuff should at least be heavily regulated.

    Taxed in the EU. Severity of taxes depend on the country, though.

    Taxed in the EU.

    Taxed in the EU.

    So... Where are you from?
    Apparently not the US, because everything they listed is also taxed here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stir View Post
    It's taxed in the EU.

    Taxed in the EU.

    Good-ish point; I support it for weed (because it's semi-legal in a lot of places already), but I still think the truly dangerous stuff should at least be heavily regulated.

    Taxed in the EU. Severity of taxes depend on the country, though.

    Taxed in the EU.

    Taxed in the EU.

    So... Where are you from?
    Not Europe, but I am seriously thinking about moving.
    US

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    Quote Originally Posted by morbidone View Post
    Not Europe, but I am seriously thinking about moving.
    US
    Well, according to Twotonsteak, all those things are also taxed in the US... So for the taxation, you probably don't need to bother if you were planning to go to the EU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasierith View Post
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...d-share-taxes/ - Top 50% of income pay 70% of the taxes.

    Illegal drugs, if they ever are legalized, will very likely be taxed the same way that cigarettes are taxed.

    Last I checked, a tariff is a trade tax. So taxing a tax is kind of pointless.

    Corporations are taxed.

    Oil companies are taxed.

    Pretty sure that electricity is taxed.
    Obviously if they are taxed, then the insinuation was to increase it....sort of like tariffs.
    I felt confident that ppl would understand something so simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deathtakes View Post
    Alcohol, cigarettes, shitty food.
    Shitty food is a good one.
    Those other two are already taxed pretty heavily though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twotonsteak View Post
    Lighting: Most states impose a sales tax on all lightbulbs.
    Trade Tariffs: This IS a tax by definition.
    Illegal Drugs: Most illegal drugs are dangerous. The rare exception (pot, for example) is easily produced by virtually anyone. And if virtually anyone can produce it, why would they buy it and pay a tax?
    Non-green sources of energy: Already taxed.
    Capital Gains: Already taxed.

    Rich people: This is where your ignorance shows. You're confusing tax rate with taxes paid. Generally speaking the wealthy can find "loop-holes" to avoid many tax laws. However they inevitably pay taxes. By contrast the poor and working poor (which really covers most people who don't own a small business) have a higher tax rate but generally PAY NO TAXES. For example: I work full time and live on my own. However I classify as "working poor," because I make below a certain amount. As a result I don't owe federal income tax. In fact the feds have always ended up paying me at the end of the year.

    Please try and do at least some research before posting this sort of stuff.

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    Apparently not the US, because everything they listed is also taxed here.
    Apparently I was wrong... I guess people can't deduce something that simple.
    I guess you need to spell out absolutely everything with crayons.

    Or maybe you are just so quick to make personal attacks that you don't bother to actually think?

    You still pay taxes champ...
    Last edited by morbidone; 2012-11-04 at 05:07 AM.

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    How about we just tax religious establishments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morbidone View Post
    Obviously if they are taxed, then the insinuation was to increase it....sort of like tariffs.
    I felt confident that ppl would understand something so simple.

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    Shitty food is a good one.
    Those other two are already taxed pretty heavily though.

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    Apparently I was wrong... I guess people can't deduce something that simple.

    You still pay taxes champ...
    oh hey your the guy that was complaining about having to write a 6 page paper... also taxing the rich = bad news for everyone else because they move out of the nation and we lose that income

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regennis View Post
    How about we just tax religious establishments.
    because seperation of church and state.... that being said the government is at least keeping up its half of the deal sorta
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    I'd never compare him to Hitler, Hitler was actually well educated, and by all accounts pretty intelligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morbidone View Post
    Any lighting that isn't an LED Lightbulb?
    Or how about trade tariffs?
    Illegal Drugs? First make them legal, then tax the shit out of them!
    Rich people, especially capital gains?
    Corporation?
    Non green sources of energy?


    What else should we tax the hell out of?
    Tax those that dont pay taxes that think that those that DO pay taxes dont pay enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twotonsteak View Post
    Illegal Drugs: Most illegal drugs are dangerous. The rare exception (pot, for example) is easily produced by virtually anyone. And if virtually anyone can produce it, why would they buy it and pay a tax?
    There's lots of things that people could easily produce on their own that they instead buy at stores. There's this time called opportunity cost. If Mr. Potsmoker could spend $2 on a joint from the store, or spend next to no money, but have to take the time to grow the pot, give up the space on his property for it to grow, take the time to roll it into a joint, pick the bugs out of it, etc. he may decide to just buy it at the store, not to mention the fact that he has to plan ahead to make sure there's always some available to him when he wants it. At the store, he can count on it being there the moment he wants it.

    Why do people buy burgers from fast food places when they can spend less money on the ingredients and make it at home for less money and usually better quality? Same concept. They'd rather give up a little more money to save a little time/avoid other inconveniences.

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