Heart of fear world firsts heroics thread!

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Amber Shaper must be a huge cockblock on 10man.

Sure seems like it. I wonder if Paragon would ever consider recruiting people from their server to fill out the remaining 15 spots for Amber Shaper only, then switching back to 10 man for empress

[moveth]

Sure seems like it. I wonder if Paragon would ever consider recruiting people from their server to fill out the remaining 15 spots for Amber Shaper only, then switching back to 10 man for empress

I think it would be more problems than helpful, to be honest. Even on 25man, Im sure the fight isnt a pushover.

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But, more importantly, finding 15 raiders of that caliber would be a pain.

[Radalek]

Sure seems like it. I wonder if Paragon would ever consider recruiting people from their server to fill out the remaining 15 spots for Amber Shaper only, then switching back to 10 man for empress

Shared lockout as well, you can't go from 10 to 25 heroic or vice versa once you are saved.

[moveth]

Shared lockout as well, you can't go from 10 to 25 heroic or vice versa once you are saved.

Well. This is a MUCH better reason. Impossibility always beats out improbability. :P

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Shared lockout as well, you can't go from 10 to 25 heroic or vice versa once you are saved.

Oh, you're right, I forgot that. You can do that only on normal isn't it?

[moveth]

The DPS requirement must be absolutely absurd for 10man. If Frag's armory is anything to go by.

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ggoji/advanced

Full blown DPS mode as a tank. Haste stacking, Hard capped Expertise. I would love to see what his DPS is like while tanking right now.

[Deleted]

The DPS requirement must be absolutely absurd for 10man. If Frag's armory is anything to go by.

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ggoji/advanced

Full blown DPS mode as a tank. Haste stacking, Hard capped Expertise. I would love to see what his DPS is like while tanking right now.

Capping expertise and then stacking haste or mastery is what pala tanks do in mop, it has nothing to do with DPs, and everything with threat generation and damage avoidance through maximum Holy Power generation.....

[Sakurako]

The DPS requirement must be absolutely absurd for 10man. If Frag's armory is anything to go by.

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ggoji/advanced

Full blown DPS mode as a tank. Haste stacking, Hard capped Expertise. I would love to see what his DPS is like while tanking right now.

Most tanks has similar stat priority, it's nothing special.

[Vereesa]

Capping expertise and then stacking haste or mastery is what pala tanks do in mop, it has nothing to do with DPs, and everything with threat generation and damage avoidance through maximum Holy Power generation.....

For the record, he didn't switch to that setup until HoF progression started. If I'm not completely mistaken, he was expertise softcapped and stacking mastery prior to that.

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Examples like these are what make statements like "25man is the only world first that counts" invalid and extremely unscrupulous.

[Deleted]

What are people basing the assumption of it being harder in 10man on?

[Deleted]

What are people basing the assumption of it being harder in 10man on?

How about the fact that paragon has been wipin on him for 10 hours and BL killed it in 4 hours on 25m. U must be dellusional if u think otherwise.

[Cattleya]

How about the fact that paragon has been wipin on him for 10 hours and BL killed it in 4 hours on 25m. U must be dellusional if u think otherwise.

Shh, obviously if something goes down first on 25m it's pure skill, but when it goes down first on 10m it's because the fight is easier.

People should just start understanding the fact some fights are harder on 10m and some on 25m.

[steveyboy]

How about the fact that paragon has been wipin on him for 10 hours and BL killed it in 4 hours on 25m. U must be dellusional if u think otherwise.

Only 2 guilds have killed it on 25 man mode though.

Paragon were the only ones to get 6/6 heroic for a while in MSV on 10 man.

[Deleted]

Paragon just killed Amber Shaper and Sejta wrote this on IRC:
[@Seita] boss was hotfixed before our kill (amber shaper).
[@Seita] third pull after fix 8<

[Keyur]

yup they did ... gratz to them

[Theiea]

Did he say what was hotfixed?

[Deleted]

10 man had the same rate of the amber construct debuffs as 25 man.

[damz2969]

10 man had the same rate of the amber construct debuffs as 25 man.

Do you mean reshape life?

[Tehterokkar]

Do you mean reshape life?

Anyhow, it was... not working as intended in terms of 10 and 25 balance(Same way if like a boss casts debuffs on players, in 10m you get 2 and 25m you get 5). There needs to be some sort of scaling for the difficulties