1. #2641
    You need to be at something like 19600 haste without the amp trinket equipped for it to push you to 21250.
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    Got my spark on my very first Heroic kill of the dude :P
    what

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaarsuviuss View Post
    Got my spark on my very first Heroic kill of the dude :P
    Sssssssh... This is something you do not say in the paladin forums unless you wanna die a slow and painful death through stabbing.
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    I am so tired of seeing terrible people, being admired, for being terrible people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazel View Post
    I was using VP trinket along with wote heroic trinket untill end of ToT. Spark dropped like 2 weeks before SoO.
    Valor + GID.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly33 View Post
    Sssssssh... This is something you do not say in the paladin forums unless you wanna die a slow and painful death through stabbing.
    Too late. He won't be posting here any more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly33 View Post
    Sssssssh... This is something you do not say in the paladin forums unless you wanna die a slow and painful death through stabbing.
    I won't tell you how many Sparks I got then
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    Quote Originally Posted by Butler Log View Post
    I won't tell you how many Sparks I got then
    Some people have butter knives, I have a Butler Knife.
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  8. #2648
    I have a bit of a dumb question. Do people refresh EF on 3 or 5 stacks on a fight like Garrosh HC?

    I'm solo tanking and just tend to do it at 5, frankly cos I never put much thought into it. However, with the 4 set and the WoG glyph would it compromise survivability a lot to refresh at 3?

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    Hello everyone, not nearly well geared yet but I need help with my reforging, gemming and enchanting..

    .... h t t p: // eu.battle.net /wow/en/character/sylvanas/Crusadin/simple Remove the spaces, can't post links yet

    Educate me! Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricaanz View Post
    Hello everyone, not nearly well geared yet but I need help with my reforging, gemming and enchanting..

    .... h t t p: // eu.battle.net /wow/en/character/sylvanas/Crusadin/simple Remove the spaces, can't post links yet

    Educate me! Thanks in advance.
    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...-Paladin-Guide

    Should probably try there until you have a more specific question, all the gemming/enchanting/reforging questions you've got should be answered in that link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MerinPally View Post
    Should probably try there until you have a more specific question, all the gemming/enchanting/reforging questions you've got should be answered in that link.
    What I meant is how to fix my current reforging/gemming/enchanting.

    I don't want a complete overhaul, if you know what I mean

  12. #2652
    Thank you I knew I had many things wrong. I actually gemmed like this when a 570ilvl prot paladin told me to do so.

    That dodge trinket is horrible I know, trying to get a new one from flex every week with no luck ofc. I'll work on everything you told me! Thank you mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricaanz View Post
    What I meant is how to fix my current reforging/gemming/enchanting.

    I don't want a complete overhaul, if you know what I mean
    Hmm I kinda don't but the information anyone here will give you is the same as written on the guide, if you have further questions though or more specific ones then it's easier to get help potentially. Least you have an answer now I wouldn't worry about the ilvl of someone giving you advice, I myself am like 530 because I've not had time to play in MOP but I definitely know (knew, at least) what I'm talking about. Glad you found Lazel's answer helpful though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deja Thoris View Post
    I have a bit of a dumb question. Do people refresh EF on 3 or 5 stacks on a fight like Garrosh HC?

    I'm solo tanking and just tend to do it at 5, frankly cos I never put much thought into it. However, with the 4 set and the WoG glyph would it compromise survivability a lot to refresh at 3?
    Personal pref + depends on healers.
    When there's light damage intake i tend to just refresh at 3. Since we're solo/under healing +- every fight, i do go to 5 on some of the later fights, since the only outside healing i can sort of expect is HST.

  15. #2655
    Hey all,
    Don't really want to waste people's time with my nub questions but I can't send the moderator a pm because I haven't posted 10 times :/
    Anyway I raided tot heroic warlock and raided heroics since release now I'd like to try tanking.. I have just come back from a break and got 90 on a pala playing with a friend of mine oh is guardian druid and we are both in same 505ieh ilvl and I seem to be getting chunked in siege lfr. I have a few specific questions.
    1) if in low ilvl gear (around 500) do you still go for the haste stack or is there a threshold? So for example avoidance until you can reach 10k haste..
    2) I have read a few places on the Internet and a few vote divine purpose and a few vote holy avenger.. For my situation what's best, and same question with EF and SS.
    3) I have tried as close to 100% uptime on the shield of the righteous buff as possible but I keep having large chunks of 5-6 secs with no buff from it. Is this the wrong way to play it, should I be getting to 5 charges and waiting till I know a bigger than normal hit is coming in before using shield of the righteous.
    4) I have read the awesome guide so I know the gems chants glyphs so on, basically want a few questions answered for the ilvl I'm at. I don't believe it will help but here is armoury link, I have a healer shield because it's the only one I have got other than the 408 green and I know I should be gemming full haste and actually get enchants, EDIT: added armoury link but won't let me post as I have only posted once before so character name is Rekonin , alli,ravencrest EU

    As I said I'm a decent player and a heroic raider so I know the gems and stuff are rubbish just a bit of the theory I need straightening out by one of you seasoned hands many thanks..

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    1) Still stack haste, it increases pretty linearly I think (can't remember it's been so long) but there's not a minimum amount where it's going to be not useful. Keep going til 21500 (I think) or it goes down to like 20250 and 19600 if you get various versions of Thok's.

    2) Divine Purpose; Holy Avenger is only useful for certain boss fights I believe Malkorok is a good example as you can time it for the rage effect - high haste values inflate the benefit of DP, your haste is very low so the difference will not be as profound as for those with higher haste. Use EF over SS. Try to keep the HOT rolling on you, your uptime of SHOTR will go down slightly until you get 4p (if you get 4p some people don't) but DP will help balance it out a bit.

    3) Sounds fine, like in an ideal world you'd pool to 5 and then cast to go to 2 and then rebuild to 5, but I don't think anyone really does that - not outside of hideously undergeared progression. The reason would be that way you can easily get 1 more HP and save your life with a heal in desperate situations but it rarely happens where that'll make a difference or you'll react in time. This far into the expansion I wouldn't worry at all about it, just hit your buttons - but if you know an extra hard hit is coming in then obviously save it as 50% of 10k stopped is more than 50% of 5k.

    4) Yeah there's not a lot to say here, just need to get some enchants and the correct gems. Really no need to get socket bonuses that's the number 1 mistake people make. If you can get them because you're not using only 320 haste gems then great, get them - but never substitute a 320 haste for something else with the intention of getting a socket bonus. The 160 haste is superior to the 60 strength. Unless you're at haste cap (21500 if I remember)
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  17. #2657
    I only go for the socket bonus in the tier helmet (one exp/haste or exp/mastery for 270 stamina), tier chest (three exp/haste or exp/mastery for 270 stamina), cloak (exp/haste or exp/haste for 90 stamina) and if there is an expertise or haste bonus (for example on SoO rings).
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    Many Thanks buddy, really useful. Hopefully I'll change to DP will at least give me an overall increased uptime of the damage reduction buff. I was thinking that I would change it anyway but the quick throw away guides like noxxic and icy say holy avenger, just feel prot palas have alot of cd's already no need for another.

    There was one more thing I forgot to say however I don't think it will make tons of difference, personally i prefer the utility that the last tier talent hammer gives but I seem to recall your guide saying prism was best, defo worth going prism?

  19. #2659
    Quote Originally Posted by Lazel View Post
    Why would you go for expertise gems when you don't need it ?
    Means you can get more mastery from reforging. And there aren't any other useful gems that you can use if you want those three socket bonuses (red sockets).

    There was one more thing I forgot to say however I don't think it will make tons of difference, personally i prefer the utility that the last tier talent hammer gives but I seem to recall your guide saying prism was best, defo worth going prism?
    Depends on the fight. If you want to push people that are close to the target up quickly (Thok) or pick up adds spawning around a specific person (Immerseus) then Holy Prism. If you want to deal AoE damage and maybe snare mobs (for example if you are tanking Kardris and want to help on the adds) then Light's Hammer would be a better choice.
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