I'm not addicted I'm commited
I'm not addicted I'm commited
If someone is so rich they dont have to work. doesent need to work out because their body is perfectly in shape doesent mean he isnt normal!
He is just living his life diffrently from yours. (assuming you do all of those things you mentioned above)
Not saying there isnt any such thing such as abnormal though. But i don't think you can apply it so easily.
The way you explain it it practically seems that when it isnt common it isnt normal or when a lot of people dont do it it isnt normal
I think a lot of people skip school or work so they can play a game. Then that should be normal too
The moment you get withdrawal symptoms when you have to stop playing for 2-3 days. Everything else is poopy and just having fun with a hobby.
Or do you call the guy addicted wo spends 5 hours a day with his car?
A fairly simple and good definition in my oppinion about to weather your addicted or not:
Three of the following symptoms suggest abuse, five or more addiction:
-Increasing amounts of time spent on Internet
-Failed attempts to control behavior
-Heightened euphoria while on Internet
-Craving more time on Internet, restless when not there
-Neglecting family and friends
-Lying to others about use
-Internet interfering with job and school
-Feeling guilty or ashamed of behavior
-Changes in sleep patterns
-Weight changes, backaches, headaches, carpal tunnel
-Withdrawl from other activities
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That comment just shows the trend in our culture. Everything is a addiction, no responsibility for your actions. Its a bunch of horse shit. The fact that people cant take accountability for their own actions, and blame it on an innate addiction that they cannot help because they are, "so pleauged by it" makes me fucking laugh. Grow up and get your prioritizes straight.
*I do love wow, just hate the whole "addiction topic.*
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I'll admit I'm addicted to WoW. When I quit WoW I felt better about myself and had more fun with friends and family. It's hard to stay away though, and I eventually come back.
I play more than 5 hours pr day, and it's very normal for me. I'm probably in far better shape than you are though.
It's not the part with playing 5 hours pr day. Most people just watched tv before for 5 hours, or even do that on top of it.
You still have plenty of time to do other things.
Biking to work/school, Walking around in the area you are, instead of calling, doing sport, and tons of time for extra things in the weekends, including seing those you like.
If you don't think you have time enough for it, then try to get a baby to keep you up 4 more hours of the day, so you can have time for it all <.<
It may not be physiological, but as many in this thread stated, addiction can be psychological as well and have nothing to do with "weak mind" or inability to prioritize. You truly have to be a fool to believe that some people just choose to not care about school, friends, family and their life just to play a game. There are many factors that could lead to psychological addiction, such as bad conditions, health or social integration in real life.
The addiction is in the head and it forces you to keep playing, keep getting better, not letting down your guildmates and so on. Some people can handle things like alcohol, cigarettes and drugs just fine but end up having a psychological addiction to something instead. Others are the other way around. What really baffles me is how many people in this thread that are denying that you can be addicted to WoW. Either a lot of people are, in fact, addicted to some degree but in denial or just don't really have a good idea about it.
Why don't you just say "grow up and get your prioritizes right" to someone who have a alcohol addiction?
I guess you're just to immature (or in denial?) to actually realize that the mind can be a powerful tool that we don't always control.
(source: The Medical Dictionary)Addiction has been extended, however, to include mood-altering behaviors or activities. Some researchers speak of two types of addictions: substance addictions (for example, alcoholism, drug abuse, and smoking); and process addictions (for example, gambling, spending, shopping, eating, and sexual activity).
As the quote suggest, gaming addiction is very much a real thing.
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I think it becomes a problem when you play 5 or more hours a day when you really go other stuff you should do instead. Such as work, homework, chorus and such.
I'm not. I like WoW but I find the idea of logging in all day everyday unappealing. Couple of hours a night sure. Constantly? Oh hell no.
That said I think some of my guildies are definitely addicted. I don't understand how parents with little kids can play all day every day and not logout. I have such a couple in my guild. Husband and wife. I login during the day sometimes and they're online. When I login of an evening to do my dailies and the like they are STILL logged in. The other night I was bored and unable to sleep so I grabbed my phone which had a PST notification on the screen from earlier and as usual stupid remote chat hadn't logged out... and they were BOTH still on at 3am! o_O;; Unless they are botting or something? I'm not entirely sure but they are usually either in instances or somewhere in Pandaria
My former GM was the same. He'd wake up in the morning and login to WoW, play till about 4am, go to bed then wake up and log straight back in again. Mind you he was forced to stop when he went bankrupt as he was ignoring his IRL responsibilities and stuff went bad. Now he works full time and plays regularly but isn't online from the moment he wakes up to the moment he sleeps like he used to
Another of my guildies that I raided with back in Wrath and Cata got epic wife rage over the amount of time he played WoW and the fact that he'd raid with us 3 nights a week. Pretty sure she gave him an ultimatum "it's me or the game" he didn't curb his gametime... he's now divorced. So yes I definitely think there are people that are addicted out there!
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I know people who's life pretty much revolves around the game (as did mine for a short time). It's become their only hobby and they actually look down on people that do not play. On Sunday night I actually tried to discuss the things I liked about Rift (with a friend who has never seen Rift) in the same room as an especially rude one of the bunch and was basically shouted at and mocked until I kept my mouth shut. It's absolutely pathetic to see first hand the lengths people will go to to defend even the stupidest, obviously flawed aspects of the game when they are addicted.
For me the most obvious sign of WoW addiction is exactly that, the blind consumerist "I've played for this long I may as well keep playing" attitude people have even when they aren't enjoying the game. The end of Cata really brought this home for me. So many people in chat channels complaining about the sorry state of wow... yet every single one of them was actually logged into the game while they said it. If you don't like what you are doing, why not stop?
Originally Posted by Пламяскверны
I fall into several of those catergories, except i know i can quit whenever i see fit.
And Already The World Looks A Little Less Bright.....
I think addiction is anything you do everyday, for at least than one hour, and affects your health in a bad way.
Playing wow everyday, even for a minimum 1 hour a day is STILL an addiction.
WoW is not job (it is for some people), so we can always back away from it; We just choose not to.
That addiction might be more severe, if you can't stop/interrupt your gaming sessions for long periods, and have psychological and/or physical reactions.
For me, every time I interrupt it, I actually feel better about myself and can manage to get things done more efficiently.
Fact of the matter is, only an incredibly small part of the population will ever understand what a physical addiction is, yet psychological addiction is one of the most commonly addressed issues with psychiatrists.
Originally Posted by Пламяскверны