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    Please calm down on the rate of revealed content, guys.

    I understand that many of you are impatient, and that every time bliz reveals something, there is that kneejerk reaction to demand that it was released 2 weeks prior, but I think we all need to calm down.

    If we constantly badger bliz about it, it will never get released.

    Just please remember, when bliz says that something will be out "ASAP," They mean it like this:

    As

    SoonTM

    As

    Possible.

    Many cuddles and hugs for the patient.

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    If it will never get released as you say, they wont have subscripcions, also, they will lose a lot of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dabo View Post
    If it will never get released as you say, they wont have subscripcions, also, they will lose a lot of money.
    All the more reason to calm down, and let them do their jobs, no need to berate them constantly.

    EDIT: Heeeeyyy, did someone change my title to "The Patient" because of this? >_> I'm watchin you, mods.
    Last edited by Egoism; 2014-01-24 at 01:54 PM.

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    Disagree entirely. Blizzard isn't our girlfriend, neither is Blizzard an emotional sixteen year old teen girl we have to treat carefully. Blizzard is a multi billion dollar company whom we are PAYING to get these things. This isn't a personal relationship but a purely business like one we have.

    If your pizza delivery guy decides to deliver your pizza in three days instead of a few hours you wouldn't be happy either and you wouldn't be going "Oh I shouldn't bother him, he'll probably deliver it whenever he feels like it and calling will only make him be even slower!".
    Last edited by Deleth; 2014-01-24 at 01:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deleth View Post
    Disagree entirely. Blizzard isn't out girlfriend, neither is Blizzard an emotional sixteen year old teen girl we have to treat carefully. Blizzard is a multi billion dollar company whom we are PAYING to get these things. This isn't a personal relationship but a purely business like one we have.

    If your pizza delivery guy decides to deliver your pizza in three days instead of a few hours you wouldn't be happy either and you wouldn't be going "Oh I shouldn't bother him, he'll probably deliver it whenever he feels like it and calling will only make him be even slower!".
    You have not paid, nor agreed to pay for anything yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deleth View Post
    Disagree entirely. Blizzard isn't our girlfriend, neither is Blizzard an emotional sixteen year old teen girl we have to treat carefully. Blizzard is a multi billion dollar company whom we are PAYING to get these things. This isn't a personal relationship but a purely business like one we have.

    If your pizza delivery guy decides to deliver your pizza in three days instead of a few hours you wouldn't be happy either and you wouldn't be going "Oh I shouldn't bother him, he'll probably deliver it whenever he feels like it and calling will only make him be even slower!".
    Can we at least find proper analogies? Last time I checked you don't phone Blizzard and say "I like a Emerald Dream type xpansion with extra mounts, hold the pet battles and I expect that next week, here is your 40 bucks"

    They make a game, you chose to buy it or not. Meanwhile I wasn't aware that my 12 Euros a month buy me an x-pac?

    Harressing them or not - they have a history of releasing a game "when it is ready". And people are impatient every time and for every game.
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    ... there are lots of different types of players, with different amounts of time to play, and different tastes for the content and difficulty and time commitment they want to give to any of those pieces of content. The person that plays for an hour or so a few times a week is playing the same game as the person that plays five hours every night.....
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...261?page=8#154

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egoism View Post
    All the more reason to calm down, and let them do their jobs, no need to berate them constantly.

    EDIT: Heeeeyyy, did someone change my title to "The Patient" because of this? >_> I'm watchin you, mods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Egoism View Post
    You have not paid, nor agreed to pay for anything yet.
    Nor you did to the pizza guy. You usually pay them when they get there with the pizza.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Egoism View Post

    EDIT: Heeeeyyy, did someone change my title to "The Patient" because of this? >_> I'm watchin you, mods.
    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...05#post9629205 - full list of titles.
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    ... there are lots of different types of players, with different amounts of time to play, and different tastes for the content and difficulty and time commitment they want to give to any of those pieces of content. The person that plays for an hour or so a few times a week is playing the same game as the person that plays five hours every night.....
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...261?page=8#154

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egoism View Post
    I understand that many of you are impatient, and that every time bliz reveals something, there is that kneejerk reaction to demand that it was released 2 weeks prior, but I think we all need to calm down.

    If we constantly badger bliz about it, it will never get released.

    Just please remember, when bliz says that something will be out "ASAP," They mean it like this:

    As

    SoonTM

    As

    Possible.

    Many cuddles and hugs for the patient.
    Haha ignorance at it's best. They will release it as soon as posible of course, or stockholders will replace chairman of the company. Blizzard is at this point far from organization like Valve where they still can decide things on their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malenurse View Post
    Haha ignorance at it's best. They will release it as soon as posible of course, or stockholders will replace chairman of the company. Blizzard is at this point far from organization like Valve where they still can decide things on their own.
    The irony, the irony...
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    ... there are lots of different types of players, with different amounts of time to play, and different tastes for the content and difficulty and time commitment they want to give to any of those pieces of content. The person that plays for an hour or so a few times a week is playing the same game as the person that plays five hours every night.....
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...261?page=8#154

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    Call me stupid or crazy!

    Why not just keep EVERYTHING about the new release a SECRET, and let all the players find out? That would kind of have a re-release of the first release of World of Warcraft!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egoism View Post
    You have not paid, nor agreed to pay for anything yet.
    Last time I checked I was actually paying a subscription so I will be provided new content and updates alongside access to the servers. When did this game stop demanding me to pay? I didn't notice.

    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    Can we at least find proper analogies? Last time I checked you don't phone Blizzard and say "I like a Emerald Dream type xpansion with extra mounts, hold the pet battles and I expect that next week, here is your 40 bucks"

    They make a game, you chose to buy it or not. Meanwhile I wasn't aware that my 12 Euros a month buy me an x-pac?

    Harressing them or not - they have a history of releasing a game "when it is ready". And people are impatient every time and for every game.
    The monthly fee entails actual updates and content. If they fall short of delivering that they're obviously not uphoalding their part of the bargain. Imagine you have a Pizza "contract" so each friday you get deliver a pizza, just one day the delivery guy only shows up shakes your hand and leaves after because they're currently to busy to make the next menu so they couldn't make your pizza.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluorescent0 View Post
    Nor you did to the pizza guy. You usually pay them when they get there with the pizza.
    There is a verbal contract initiated, or pre-payment, depending on method of payment promised.

    He is not showing up to offer you a product that you did not already agree to buy.

    Flawed analogy is flawed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deleth View Post
    Last time I checked I was actually paying a subscription so I will be provided new content and updates alongside access to the servers. When did this game stop demanding me to pay? I didn't notice.


    The monthly fee entails actual updates and content. If they fall short of delivering that they're obviously not uphoalding their part of the bargain. Imagine you have a Pizza "contract" so each friday you get deliver a pizza, just one day the delivery guy only shows up shakes your hand and leaves after because they're currently to busy to make the next menu so they couldn't make your pizza.
    You are paying for MOP, not WOD.

    Your analogy attempt is not working.

    You have made absolutely no promise, or implied agreement to purchase WOD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deleth View Post
    Disagree entirely. Blizzard isn't our girlfriend, neither is Blizzard an emotional sixteen year old teen girl we have to treat carefully. Blizzard is a multi billion dollar company whom we are PAYING to get these things. This isn't a personal relationship but a purely business like one we have.

    If your pizza delivery guy decides to deliver your pizza in three days instead of a few hours you wouldn't be happy either and you wouldn't be going "Oh I shouldn't bother him, he'll probably deliver it whenever he feels like it and calling will only make him be even slower!".
    Except that example is horrible.

    A pizza guy is going to deliver your pizza within the allotted time, because that's their job and their job description. Nowhere does it say that Blizzard should release specific examples of their progress so that you can sleep soundly at night, let alone release anything to satiate your impatience AT ALL. They could quite literally not release a damn thing until the day of release for a game, and you'd buy it, and be content. That's their job, release games, their job is not, "release concept art and models to shut cry baby forum ragers up."

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    Yes relax and cancel your subscription.

    Not my fault they speed things up. Content is consumed faster than ever, they let us skip everything, gearing up is way too fast and we get Timeless Isle for the last patch that needs to last for at least 7 months.

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    Blizzard releases information as they see fit. There's the wave of information during and shortly after Blizzcon. Things dry up for a while. They give us tidbits along the way. Then a little more. Its called marketing. You want to keep people hungry for more information, and just feed them enough to keep them coming for more.

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    I'm British I have the patience of a saint, we have to deal with lines at the post office after all. I could wait forever for anything blizzard throws at me. Although I don't speak for every Brit, I can just respect peoples hard earned work more than others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deleth View Post
    If your pizza delivery guy decides to deliver your pizza in three days instead of a few hours you wouldn't be happy either and you wouldn't be going "Oh I shouldn't bother him, he'll probably deliver it whenever he feels like it and calling will only make him be even slower!".
    Bad analogy. This isn't delivering a pizza we paid for, this is waiting on a new flavour of pizza to become available in the region so that we may purchase it. The delivery has largely been instantaneous, the new flavour is just a teaser we all can't wait to spend our money on and get frustrated with the stalling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deleth View Post
    Last time I checked I was actually paying a subscription so I will be provided new content and updates alongside access to the servers. When did this game stop demanding me to pay? I didn't notice.


    The monthly fee entails actual updates and content. If they fall short of delivering that they're obviously not uphoalding their part of the bargain. Imagine you have a Pizza "contract" so each friday you get deliver a pizza, just one day the delivery guy only shows up shakes your hand and leaves after because they're currently to busy to make the next menu so they couldn't make your pizza.
    Actually you pay for the game on an as is basis. They have no requirement to provide any additional content. This would be a horrible business decision on their part though so obviously they don't do it but there is no requirement for them to do so.

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