Why do people do such systems, and even more Worryingly why do people abide by these rules. Why the hell people are in such guilds is beyond me, GM/Officer prio on loot is the most ridiculous thing ever, seriously get out of that system and find yourself a new guild.
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10g says that the rules are not as this guy has stated and he is just struggling to deal with the fact that he isn't performing very well.
The GM and officers put in a lot more work than the rest of you coat tail riders so they deserve prio on whatever loot they can get. It's nowhere near adequate compensation for whatever they have to put up with, really. I'd take his advice and go read up and practice and l2p. What kind of person calls himself a raider when he doesn't want to do that? People these days just want the gear without putting any effort into it.
That is the worst loot system I've ever heard of, at least all the DKP and loot council things had the intention of fairness and tank/healer priorities used to be about maximizing raid efficiency and utilizing op 2/4pc bonuses asap but a gm/officer priority loot system? fuck everything about that, you should have gquit yesterday.
I'm sure some guilds have these rules, normally they don't last long. However the OP has made so many inaccurate statements and is clearly oblivious to the fact that 4 ilvls doesn't make up for the fact he is performing way under what a warlock of his ilvl should be performing at, therefore I'm not convinced that we are getting a full picture here.
Wasn't there a thread by a guild leader who had such a system in place on this very forums and got flamed to the ground for it (in FL era I think). It went: He > His Friends (officers) > normal members > randoms. When with randoms all eligable players had to roll on every piece, if the random still got it they announced it was reserved already. Ridicioulsly vile bahaviour.
Maybe you ended up in his guild?
If it was not for the raid group "the none offcers" and the guild members the guild would be at zero kills and level 1.
I use to GM myself and was a officer in many guilds to think that the GM and officers put in more work is bullshit its a group task. only thing they may do more then the others is invite members.
On topic: as many have said leave the guild its a pore loot system and ur GM seems like a douche.
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Even if he is under performing if this is the current loot system its still a shit system to use and its all about greed.
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As someone who was an officer of a guild before this is bullshit. They only have to put up with whatever mess they make. If there are problems in the guild it's because they are to bad to solve them correctly.
Like the officers who take gear from people who help them kill the boss?People these days just want the gear without putting any effort into it.
You clearly weren't a very good GM or officer. There is way more work involved in running a guild than 'inviting people'. Not saying that means you should take all loot yourself (I used EPGP in my own guild) but again if its your guild you run it how you like. There is no binding contract to hold you to a guild if you don't like it.
THis 100% as i said i have been the Gm in many guilds across many MMO's and most problems can be fixed without problems. if there is drama within the guild it is because ur GM and Officers let it be there.
The only thing a GM dose more then the rest of the members is inviting people and if you say from the start that everyone can invite people then it even makes it more easy.
People really do need to stop acting like being a GM/Officer is hard work cause it isn't if anything the Raid Leader for the group ur in dose more work then both.
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Bullshit.
Right now i've been forced into being GM and getting the raid rolling etc.
I grant there's some work to it, specially since i'm picky with nice people, but there's no way i would take prio on gear, just for that role.
Personally i like to let tank and healers get their gear first, and then dps, but we're raiding with everybody being able to loot on prio gear. People usually just pass on things if they think others need it more (We have a player we have to forcefeed with gear because she pass on everything possible :P )
A player that isn't forming the raid, can easely spend more time preparing for the raid anyway. As in spending time on dummies, killing his brain on every daily he can find, gear several chars up for the need of the raid etc.
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by contrast, despite having higher epgp than me, my GM passed on a bit of gear to me because it was better itemised for me. this happens very often. get a better guild man.
I didn't say i did take any loot for myself i am agreeing with what others have said so i think you read what i said the wrong way.
And no it is not a lot of work to be a GM even more so when u got Officers helping.
Lots of Gm's make it more work then what it really is.
Also to add yes i have been the GM of many guilds and there not around now cause i left those mmo's. the last one's i ran a guild in was GW2 and Wow.
A gm can leave the game just incase you didn't know.
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I imagine being in a raid like that in firelands, being a feral druid, and see a hunter get fandrals flamescyte.
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