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    Quote Originally Posted by Imnick View Post
    You can't add a sha-touched socket, the item you get from the Black Prince will add a prismatic socket, and only to a weapon that already has a Sha-Touched socket. It cannot be applied to the dagger.
    So you're adding an additional 50 int to the Sha-Touched sword and then on top of that the value of the Red or Orange gem of your choice.

    http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=93403
    So , after 5.1, sha-touched weapon will be BiS by far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtmzac View Post
    Well the 500 intellect on the gem is 577.5 spellpower and some crit (can't find the amount you get from int anywhere).

    1 intellect = 1.155 spellpower
    Edit: The 500 Int gem is 606 SP with Arcane Brilliance and the 5% stat buff.
    Last edited by Taiknee; 2012-11-27 at 12:15 AM.
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    If you're frost, you do not want the elite dagger at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lhehitman View Post
    Dont forget that if you are a gnome, the dagger provides 1% hit with your racial which allows you to reforge/re itemize items with hit into crit
    I dont think that applies to spells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Playintrafic View Post
    I dont think that applies to spells.
    It has since MoP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Playintrafic View Post
    I dont think that applies to spells.
    It gives 1% expertise, which, since MoP, is equal to 1% spell hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taiknee View Post
    ^ This is without the 5% stat buff. When you have the 5% stat buff, this becomes 606 Int.
    No, this is with the Cataclysm 10% stat buff and the Wizardry passive 5% stat buff.

    It's actually 500 int * 1.05 * 1.05 = 500 * 1.1025 = 551.25.

    Edit: That's because the primary stat raid buff is now 5% in Mists.

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    I would suggest the sword if you have the gem for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirewolfX View Post
    No, this is with the Cataclysm 10% stat buff and the Wizardry passive 5% stat buff.

    It's actually 500 int * 1.05 * 1.05 = 500 * 1.1025 = 551.25.

    Edit: That's because the primary stat raid buff is now 5% in Mists.
    Sorry, I was referring to spell power. 5% wizardry, 5% Stat buff, 10% AB = 606 SP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taiknee View Post
    Sorry, I was referring to spell power. 5% wizardry, 5% Stat buff, 10% AB = 606 SP
    Yes, but the Elite Dagger gets the 10% buff from spell power, too, so it's a wash. Only the gem gets the intellect buffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirewolfX View Post
    Yes, but the Elite Dagger gets the 10% buff from spell power, too, so it's a wash. Only the gem gets the intellect buffs.
    the 606 sp are coming from the +500 int gem which the elite dagger doesnt have, so it outweighs the spellpower we get from the elite dagger.

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    Any idea how long it takes to get the prismatic socket and upgraded 550 int gem? I know this Valor quest is going to take 6 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrExcelion View Post
    Any idea how long it takes to get the prismatic socket and upgraded 550 int gem? I know this Valor quest is going to take 6 weeks.
    oh dang :/ havent even got first part done :C:C:C not sure tbh havent really looked into it

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    sha-touched weapon will only be better once you get the legendary gem

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