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    Geeez after all these wish list, I'd rather Blizzard just go back to give us NOTHING when we didn't win a roll, they tried to be nice and give us some gold (they already had to think of BMAH to drain gold away from the economy, you really think they will give you an useful amount of gold? dream on), but people just can't be happy and want more, didn't win loot? Have a bonus roll. Didn't win on bonus roll? Have a satchel that can contain flask and chance for rare items! What next? A free lottery ticket when no rare pet for another chance for 5000 gold?

    Blizzard just go back to give us nothing when we didn't win roll please, there would have been much less QQ

  2. #42
    Always find something to complain about... with the old lfr, it was DANG my piece of gear dropped but someone afk for the whole fight won the roll. Honestly, my only complaint would be "give us the gold" instead of the cache. Save me the effort of looting the bags haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEHPALLYTANK View Post
    I would love some JP...10+ hours of dungeons to get 4k JP is just plain bullshit.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moradim View Post
    seriously. why is JP so hard to get?

    the only efficient way of getting JP now is grinding bgs and converting honor to jp...
    I love how many people completely forget that scenarios reward JP and are super quick compared to dungeons. Boring yes, but if you want JP don't act like they're not giving you a means to get it.

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    This sort of post sums up why people will always moan and bitch and complain about every single thing blizzard ever does.

    In the old days you used to get NOTHING, ZERO, NADA if you did not get loot.

    Blizz give you some token gold and you come to the forums and moan and bitch about it being BS?

    Very self entitled imo.

    Sure I would like a chance of a pet or something else, but coming to the forums and saying getting 28g when you used to get NOTHING is BS?

    Really?

  5. #45
    people always got gold from boss kills before anyway

    im just saying, unless the cache drops interesting things, there is no reason to have a cache if it always gives you 28 gold.

    why have a cache at all if the reward is always the same? at least scenario boxes can give you an item, so theres reason to open it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moradim View Post
    people always got gold from boss kills before anyway

    im just saying, unless the cache drops interesting things, there is no reason to have a cache if it always gives you 28 gold.

    why have a cache at all if the reward is always the same? at least scenario boxes can give you an item, so theres reason to open it.
    ./sigh...

    You don't get it do you?

    It not what your saying its HOW your saying it.

    Your coming across like a self entitled whiner.

    If you made a forum post along the lines of...

    "What would you like to see in the Cache bags."

    That might prompt useful discussion?

    Coming to the forums and moaning and bitching about "only getting 28g is complete BS" is just moaning?

    Do you not see that?

    This is the difference between "Constructive Posting" and "Whining"

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Quilzar View Post
    In the old days you used to get NOTHING, ZERO, NADA if you did not get loot.
    In the old days you used to get about 28G for finishing the whole raid... about 50G for BWL...
    ...Made it through 9 years of wow...

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Erenax View Post
    They should put your item IN the bag, so there's more suspense when opening it.
    I like this .

  9. #49
    This thread and many others just point out that having a forums for a video game is a very bad thing.

    First, Blizz gave you the option of rolling for EXTRA loot on a boss of YOUR choice. Then they gave you gold if you didn't win an item. Yet you whine?

    Would have been nice if we still had the TBC style of raiding. Where you needed to grind out and do far harder content just to open the gates of Karazhan. Where you needed to kill extremely difficult bosses like Vasjh and Kael just to get into MH to kill Winter. Where you had stupid trash like we had in MH. Had a raid like Sunwell which only 1% of the WoW raiders just STEPPED into.

    That would have made everyone really happy. Atleast then all these whiny posts will make perfect sense. Right now, it's all "BLIZZA GIB ME MA LOOTS WITH ANY EFFORTS! YEA? OK?"
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    I don't think this problem is within the bag of gold.

    It's the fact that you can do a full 16 boss lfr without a single item, not even a glance at a item.
    In the old DS lfr, you could atleast roll for items you wanted, and pass for items you didn't need and move on. Now you can get items you already have, or isn't an upgrade, which kinda sucks, when there is still 10 more items out there from lfr that you can use, and don't get.

    I'd say, remove the bag, give players the choice to accept the item that they would win, if they want it, they get it, if not, they have a higher chance for another item on another boss.

    Overall I have the feeling the new lfr system gives out less upgrades than DS.
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  11. #51
    Just be glad you atleast get something for the moment......

  12. #52
    so you get gold, which you got from a boss before LFR if you didn't get any loot, so basically its no change to how it ever was if you didnt win an item..but you want more? no wonder blizzard can never please people.

  13. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Grym View Post
    Geeez after all these wish list, I'd rather Blizzard just go back to give us NOTHING when we didn't win a roll, they tried to be nice and give us some gold (they already had to think of BMAH to drain gold away from the economy, you really think they will give you an useful amount of gold? dream on), but people just can't be happy and want more, didn't win loot? Have a bonus roll. Didn't win on bonus roll? Have a satchel that can contain flask and chance for rare items! What next? A free lottery ticket when no rare pet for another chance for 5000 gold?

    Blizzard just go back to give us nothing when we didn't win roll please, there would have been much less QQ
    Gold was always there, wasn't itt? Just for killing the boss?
    Now it comes in a bag, I don't know why; they just could have it as drop as previously....

    At the end of DS raiding (in LFR) people would wait for the wave of leaving people then loot the gold of the boss; so all present would get more.
    Maybe this is the reason for the bag.... previously we got the gold AND a roll on dropped items... now it is gold when you fail to win the roll.
    Why this change (gold OR item) was made, I still don't understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synstir View Post
    Why this change (gold OR item) was made, I still don't understand.
    Have you ever considered they have put the change in place so they CAN do something with it later?

    Maybe if people stopped moaning and bitching about getting 28g from it and coming up with some clever ideas about what could be in the bag that might prove useful?

    I would quite like a chance of a random faction rep token for example?

    I also quite like the idea of putting the loot in the bag as well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starsinn View Post
    Definately no flasks, elixirs or pots. Gems either. Those are crafted by a profession, you should not just get them for free. That would be detrimental to the already weak flask/pot market. ( btw, whats up with that? Are people really too poor or lazy to use pots and flasks? I never see people in raids or even dungeons using buff food or pots.) id be fine with them containing the mats or something tho. I just dont like the idea of undermining somebodies proffession by handing out the fruits of said proff. Jm2c.
    Then you are unlucky everytime I am in a lfr someone always pop a feast if I don't get to do it first.
    Many of the tanks healers and dps I see has flask aswell.

    Prepotting does not happen often though due to the nature of the tanks pulling without making certain people is ready and without a timer.

    Only thing that is annoying right now is that queue times is high cause most people have no reason to do lfr due to already better gear from valor.

    but I would indeed like it for pots, flask and feast to drop from those satchels. My server is freaking expensive on those things so im farming everything myself. Have all professions in 600.
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  16. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Quilzar View Post
    Have you ever considered they have put the change in place so they CAN do something with it later?
    I don't mind the change to a bag..... and they can do more with it; initially there where even plans. So this could turn out to be better.

    What I am wondering is why while previously you got gold AND a roll, now it if only gold when you loose the roll?
    I don't raid normal or hc, so don't know if it is the same there?
    Before MoP, in LFR we got also gold and a roll.

    This is really what I am asking.

    In lfd it is still gold and drops.

  17. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWindWalker View Post
    And honestly, I think coins should have a loot bonus attached that guarantees a drop.
    So you want a minimum of 3 guaranteed drops per week ? In addition to potential 2x16 raid drops ?
    Why not just have them mail you gear upon login ? Geeez....

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    would be nice if it was a little more gold or it had a chance of containing something like a pet. or just give you the gold instead of a box to open.

  19. #59
    i've had nothing from LFR but gold and sigils. Entering my 5th week of LFR. I won't complain though i'll get items when i get them. The upgrade system was great as it give me a progression path into the higher tier of LFR which would have been near impossible with out. (Doing dailies for gear sucks balls and I don't fancy that grind one bit).

    Now I can enjoy Pet battles while doing LFR and ofc I only do dungeons when satchel is up on call to arms for tanks, so far ive had 2 mounts and a few pets and loads of flasks. Gotta love CTA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vetis View Post
    so you get gold, which you got from a boss before LFR if you didn't get any loot, so basically its no change to how it ever was if you didnt win an item..but you want more? no wonder blizzard can never please people.
    No, it's called RIFT.

    When you closed a rift or killed a world boss, a separate loot bag would open. In it was something similar to valor; crafting mediums; relics for your tier and other goodies.

    So you always left with something worth the time and effort. May not be what you wanted, but enough to use/sell. That extra loot bag also came in handy, so your own bags wouldn't be overfilled (as you can get a lot of loot closing so many rifts).
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