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    New Trayvon/Zimmerman evidence

    http://edition.cnn.com/2012/12/03/ju...html?hpt=hp_c3

    A photo posted online Monday shows George Zimmerman with blood on his nose and lips. His attorneys say it was taken the night unarmed teen Trayvon Martin was killed in Sanford, Florida.

    Zimmerman says he shot Martin in self-defense. Martin's attorneys say he was shot and killed "in cold blood."

    Prosecutors have charged Zimmerman with second-degree murder for the February 26 killing.

    The picture, posted Monday on Zimmerman's defense website, was taken by a police officer, Zimmerman's attorneys wrote.

    The state had previously provided a black-and-white copy of the image, the attorneys wrote on the website. "This high resolution digital file was finally provided to the defense on October 29."

    A police report from the night of the incident said Zimmerman was "bleeding from the nose and back of his head."

    The 28-year-old volunteer neighborhood watchman was driving through his gated community when the incident occurred. Martin was walking through the neighborhood to his father's girlfriend's house.

    Zimmerman has claimed that after the two exchanged words, Martin charged at him, knocked him to the ground and banged his head repeatedly against a concrete sidewalk.

    Martin's family says Zimmerman attacked the teen, who had done nothing wrong.

    Martin's death sparked nationwide protests and inflamed public passions over race relations and gun control, as well as Florida's controversial "stand your ground" law, which allows the use of deadly force when a person perceives a threat to safety.

    In August, a new judge was named to oversee the case, after an appeals court agreed to a request from Zimmerman's defense team. The attorneys had argued the previous judge had made remarks putting Zimmerman in reasonable fear of an unfair trial.



    From the looks of that photo he got pretty beat up, I am going to make a prediction and say he will walk away free from this one.

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    That photo certainly supports self defense.

    Personally I'm thinking he was only charged to stop the PR outcry. There's no way they can support a second-degree murder charge. Manslaughter maybe, but definitely not murder.

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    Just because you got beat up that doesn't automatically mean you where not the aggressor.

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    From the look of the photo, his face met the ground as he tackled the kid after being instructed multiple times to NOT PURSUE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purlina View Post
    Just because you got beat up that doesn't automatically mean you where not the aggressor.
    No, but it supports what he has been saying all along and proves that "Little" Trayvon was not the weak innocent child the media made him out to be.

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    Are you saying that weak, little, innocent people won't fight back if threatened with violence and an inability to escape?

    Fight or flight.
    In fact as far as I'm aware the UK is the only european nation that outright bans guns for civilians.
    Shotguns I'll give you (provided you're allowed 12 and larger gauges... because I mean... come on...) but not .22s.
    This is why people ban guns. Gun supporters don't know what guns are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICH1471 View Post
    No, but it supports what he has been saying all along and proves that "Little" Trayvon was not the weak innocent child the media made him out to be.
    I'm not a weak innocent child either, but I wouldn't want someone stalking, harassing, and then shooting me.

    Good thing I live in NY where a stalker can't just shoot me and claim self defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhangfei View Post
    Are you saying that weak, little, innocent people won't fight back if threatened with violence and an inability to escape?

    Fight or flight.
    Flight would have been better, Zimmerman is an overweight security guard, Trayvon was a high school football player. Shooting someone in the back is flat out murder, this case would be done already if he had done that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICH1471 View Post
    No, but it supports what he has been saying all along and proves that "Little" Trayvon was not the weak innocent child the media made him out to be.
    If you listen to the extreme-left media in America, Trayvon was an innocent little 7 year old straight-A student and Zimmerman some hulking gun-nut. I heard on one of their shows this supposedly proves that Trayvon was "fighting for his life" after being attacked by Zimmerman.

    The racists on the left are just furious a white guy defended himself and his neighborhood instead of cowering and relying on an incompetent police force.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purlina View Post
    I'm not a weak innocent child either, but I wouldn't want someone stalking, harassing, and then shooting me.

    Good thing I live in NY where a stalker can't just shoot me and claim self defense.
    How mentally ill do you have to be to believe Zimmerman was out there hunting for a human to shoot? Seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dd614 View Post

    How mentally ill do you have to be to believe Zimmerman was out there hunting for a human to shoot? Seriously.
    What else was he doing? The cops told him to wait, but no he wanted to chase the kid down...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purlina View Post
    What else was he doing, cops told him to wait. But no, he wanted to chase the kid down...
    Yeah, and I'm sure you were a witness to the whole thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purlina View Post
    What else was he doing? The cops told him to wait, but no he wanted to chase the kid down...
    Incorrect, the women dispatcher told him to wait, she has as much authority to order him around as my cat does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICH1471 View Post
    Flight would have been better, Zimmerman is an overweight security guard, Trayvon was a high school football player. Shooting someone in the back is flat out murder, this case would be done already if he had done that.
    He had a vehicle and a gun, and you're expecting a very scared person to act rationally.
    In fact as far as I'm aware the UK is the only european nation that outright bans guns for civilians.
    Shotguns I'll give you (provided you're allowed 12 and larger gauges... because I mean... come on...) but not .22s.
    This is why people ban guns. Gun supporters don't know what guns are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purlina View Post
    What else was he doing? The cops told him to wait, but no he wanted to chase the kid down...
    Wasn't the cops that told him that.

    It was obvious who was right and wrong when the media started using old pictures to manipulate people's perception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    Yeah, and I'm sure you were a witness to the whole thing.
    It's in the news articles that he was told to wait, but he chased the kid on foot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICH1471 View Post
    Incorrect, the women dispatcher told him to wait, she has as much authority to order him around as my cat does.
    And Zimmerman has as much authority, responsibility, and training to fight crime as your cat does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICH1471 View Post
    Incorrect, the women dispatcher told him to wait, she has as much authority to order him around as my cat does.
    And Zimmerman had what authority to chase after someone with a gun? NONE

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaykaywhy View Post
    And Zimmerman has as much authority, responsibility, and training to fight crime as your cat does.
    Don't insult the cat, the cat never murdered an innocent kid.
    In fact as far as I'm aware the UK is the only european nation that outright bans guns for civilians.
    Shotguns I'll give you (provided you're allowed 12 and larger gauges... because I mean... come on...) but not .22s.
    This is why people ban guns. Gun supporters don't know what guns are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moadar View Post
    Wasn't the cops that told him that.

    It was obvious who was right and wrong when the media started using old pictures to manipulate people's perception.
    Brilliant defense strategy. You should be a lawyer.
    "I'm innocent because the media used mean pictures of me."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purlina View Post
    And Zimmerman had what authority to chase after someone with a gun? NONE
    Zimmerman was a fat bastard that couldnt chase anyone on foot.

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