Should circumcision be the person's OWN choice?

[Purlina]

You can't force your kid to get braces, I don't think the dentist would perform the procedure on a kicking and screaming person...

[Funt Case]

I think it is. I mean, it feels really good when I bust a nut from jerking off, getting a BJ or banging my wife, probably the same as it feels to an uncircumsized guy, it just takes me a few seconds or maybe a min or so longer.

Really, what are the major disadvantages of being circumsized? A loss of a little bit of sensitivity? I contend that's actually a good thing.

So we should circumcise new born children so in their later years they last longer in bed? The thread is if parents have the right to take something from the child thats theirs, they don't. And you should be asking whats the advantage of circumcision not the disadvantages, since you start with a foreskin. The few "advantages" of circumcision can be nullified with just washing, which you should do snipped or not.

I'm not against circumcision when its needed. But doing to a newborn BEFORE there is even any problem with it, its silly.

I've said it before, you dont go around chopping off other parts of your body before there is a problem

[Tradewind]

I'm wondering, with 62 pages on this thread alone, if there's enough popular demand for a superhero based around circumcision. Kind of like a brooding tortured anti-hero type, who was circumcised as a child and resents his parents for it. Could even call himself something like, The Foresaken, just for some extra publicity when people try and understand the intentional typo/entendre.

[Purlina]

I'm wondering, with 62 pages on this thread alone, if there's enough popular demand for a superhero based around circumcision. Kind of like a brooding tortured anti-hero type, who was circumcised as a child and resents his parents for it. Could even call himself something like, The Foresaken, just for some extra publicity when people try and understand the intentional typo/entendre.

How about this:

A superhero who runs around performing circumcisions while claiming to be saving lives. He can wave his knife around, yelling about the benefits of circumcision.

[Tradewind]

How about this:

A superhero who runs around performing circumcisions while claiming to be saving lives.

That doesn't sound like fun Way to ruin my fun!!

[Mnevis]

I'm not at all sure if you're being serious or mocking (either way, it's funny). Kind of hard to imagine a character whose entire backstory is being pissed about circumcision, but as long as you throw in there somewhere that he lost the most sensitive part of his dick, it would probably have some small effect. Someone telling me that was all it took to initially disillusion me of the 'irrelevant flap of skin, God told Abraham that cutting it off would please him' level of knowledge I had when I was a younger person.

[Deleted]

Warning: Let's stop going off topic and inventing super heroes. If you want to do that, make a thread about it on the Fun Stuff form(Yes, I'll participate too!).

[Fahrenheit]

So we should circumcise new born children so in their later years they last longer in bed? The thread is if parents have the right to take something from the child thats theirs, they don't. And you should be asking whats the advantage of circumcision not the disadvantages, since you start with a foreskin. The few "advantages" of circumcision can be nullified with just washing, which you should do snipped or not.

I'm not against circumcision when its needed. But doing to a newborn BEFORE there is even any problem with it, its silly.

I've said it before, you dont go around chopping off other parts of your body before there is a problem

What you say makes perfect sense, but, let me put it this way. I'm glad my parents had me cut when I was an newborn. It's just straight up easier that way. It's simple and quick on a baby, it's a different story once the kid can pop a boner, let alone be old enough to make this decision on his own.

All things being considered I'm glad I'm cut. In my opinion (and my wife's) I think an uncut one looks awful when flaccid with the skin hanging down over the head like a turtleneck sweater too large for the neck wearing it. It's easier to keep clean and I would imagine after a long day in the summer a cut cock smells better then a un-cut cock (more a benefit for my wife) and I last just a little bit longer cut than I would if I were un-cut.

I mean once it's said and done, are there any downsides to it? None that I've come across.

[Funt Case]

What you say makes perfect sense, but, let me put it this way. I'm glad my parents had me cut when I was an newborn. It's just straight up easier that way. It's simple and quick on a baby, it's a different story once the kid can pop a boner, let alone be old enough to make this decision on his own.

All things being considered I'm glad I'm cut. In my opinion (and my wife's) I think an uncut one looks awful when flaccid with the skin hanging down over the head like a turtleneck sweater too large for the neck wearing it. It's easier to keep clean and I would imagine after a long day in the summer a cut cock smells better then a un-cut cock (more a benefit for my wife) and I last just a little bit longer cut than I would if I were un-cut.

I mean once it's said and done, are there any downsides to it? None that I've come across.

Im happy you enjoy being cut, but lets be honest, looks on a penis is personal preference as with everything else. I dont agree with the smell part because if you wash normally it shouldn't be a problem. I mean some vaginas can smell unpleasant but they don't get snipped (Just an example, not here to change the subject). And the last bit about lasting longer cut, you probably do, but you also "might" lose out on that bit of extra sensitivity and it isn't as hard to train yourself to last longer.

I'm not against the procedure, just against it being done to a person who cant give you input, aka; a newborn.

There is downsides for an against, but honestly they're minimal and can be ignored. Its basically cosmetic, so shouldn't that be decided for the person who's going be seeing/wearing it the whole time?

[Reeve]

I wonder if women with larger labia minora are at a greater risk of yeast infections, and if so if their labia should be removed at birth.

[Fahrenheit]

Im happy you enjoy being cut, but lets be honest, looks on a penis is personal preference as with everything else. I dont agree with the smell part because if you wash normally it shouldn't be a problem. I mean some vaginas can smell unpleasant but they don't get snipped (Just an example, not here to change the subject). And the last bit about lasting longer cut, you probably do, but you also "might" lose out on that bit of extra sensitivity and it isn't as hard to train yourself to last longer.

I'm not against the procedure, just against it being done to a person who cant give you input, aka; a newborn.

There is downsides for an against, but honestly they're minimal and can be ignored. Its basically cosmetic, so shouldn't that be decided for the person who's going be seeing/wearing it the whole time?

What are the downsides? All I've heard about is a loss of some sensitivity, which again, I contend is a good thing.

And I've never had foreskin so I can say with any certainty, But I'm going to disagree with you saying the smell is no different, simply based on what I know of skin and crevasses in it, of anywhere on the body. The absolute best case scenario an uncut cock will smell just as good as an cut one, but I can't help but to think that with all that extra surface area covered up with layers of flesh on top of it's self and the lack of flowing air in the region there has to be more "funk" after a long day at the office, as compared to a cut dick.

[Funt Case]

What are the downsides? All I've heard about is a loss of some sensitivity, which again, I contend is a good thing.

And I've never had foreskin so I can say with any certainty, But I'm going to disagree with you saying the smell is no different, simply based on what I know of skin and crevasses in it, of anywhere on the body. The absolute best case scenario an uncut cock will smell just as good as an cut one, but I can't help but to think that with all that extra surface area covered up with layers of flesh on top of it's self and the lack of flowing air in the region there has to be more "funk" after a long day at the office, as compared to a cut dick.

The downsides have been posted through out the thread, complications, scaring, even loss of feeling (very rare).

And personally after a day doing manual labor id say its ball sweat that makes the smell in the genital area not the foreskin. And i've never heard anyone girl complain of being face first in my genital area. But i do wash it like i wash any other part of my body.

[Fahrenheit]

I'll just take your word for it, but I have my doubts.

Anyway, if and when my wife and I have a child and if that child is a boy, we will be getting him circumsized. My wife is even more insistent than I am on the subject. FYI, we aren't religious people.

In a perfect world, yeah, it should be the kid's choice. But the benefits aren't that much to warrant the (I have no doubt) excruciating pain and loss of your sex life for a while, when you'd be old enough to come to that decision. It's easier for all parties invloved to have it done on a newborn.

[Muzjhath]

Early on in the thread there was a peer reviewed article linked on how it's been shown that a cut penis will be less pleasant for the woman, and can easier case vaginal tearing.

This is ofc. a gross oversimplification on the whys. But a def. pro of being uncut.

//Edit: It was somewhere before page 15 I believe. Haven't followed it religiously.

[Sarithus1]

Of course it should.

[Symphonic]

The downsides have been posted through out the thread, complications, scaring, even loss of feeling (very rare).

Complications: Super rare
Scarring: Almost non-existent if done as a baby
Loss of Feeling: Also non-existent if done as a baby

All these things when done as a baby are non-issues. I was circumcised as a baby, and I can't see any scarred tissue. And I don't have any loss of feeling. So, when people claim these things as facts, I just know how I am, and how I would assume most people who get it done properly (not some experimental burning off and things like that) are the same.

[Mnevis]

I don't consider myself an expert, but you're honestly asking, and I think I have some understanding: Besides the reduced sensitivity (a result of decades of exposure of what is originally an internal mucous membrane), and the loss of the heavily innervated foreskin (and usually frenulum) tissue itself, a circumcision removes or greatly reduces the mobility of the shaft's skin. Put on a sweatshirt and pull it tight over your arm, rub your hand on it. Your hand moves over the cloth (thus, lube. thus, Kellogg's rationale for circumcision). Double over the sweatshirt and it'll slide/roll over itself; the foreskin is doubled over and moves freely over itself.

So one guy lubes up and pushes his dick through whatever he's interacting like a rod (mechanically a single unit), the other one has a built in sliding mechanism that pulls back over the ridge and rolls back up over the (sensitive) glans, and stretches the frenulum as that happens. Most cut guys have at least a little bit of the frenulum left, it's that sensitive spot underneath the base of the tip, but it's cut and doesn't really interact with anything. I guess anatomists have described some other especially highly innervated band in there too, I don't know what its deal is and don't have any frame of reference for it.

Maybe some uncut guy will correct or elaborate on the differences, be my guest. I guess mechanically you can see the difference if some porn actress is giving a dude a handjob. Not like everyone's cut in porn anymore, but I guess since you're married you have no need for the stuff

[Funt Case]

I'll just take your word for it, but I have my doubts.

Anyway, if and when my wife and I have a child and if that child is a boy, we will be getting him circumsized. My wife is even more insistent than I am on the subject.

In a perfect world yeah, it should be the kid's choice. But the benefits aren't that much to warrant the (I have no doubt) excruciating pain and loss of your sex life for a while, when you'd be old enough to come to that decision. It's easier for all parties invloved to have it done on a newborn.

I think its wrong you aren't letting your child have a say, but im not going to jump down your throat. There is little difference apart from cosmetic and me ranting to you on a forum isn't going to change your mind. I wish the best either way!

[Hyland]

Lol its crazy to see the differing views here. I for one consider it normal and am thankful to have had it done. If I have a male child I will have him circumcised, no second thoughts.

If you don't believe in it don't do it to your child, its pretty simple.

[Tradewind]

Lol its crazy to see the differing views here. I for one consider it normal and am thankful to have had it done. If I have a male child I will have him circumcised, no second thoughts.

If you don't believe in it don't do it to your child, its pretty simple.

Yeah but like most things, people who don't like it tend to take on a prohibitionist viewpoint. "Stop liking what I don't like" etc.