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Once Blizzard removed accountability and player reputation from the game by making tools like LFD and then LFR, that sort of behavior was inevitable. But hey, at least players don't have to talk to each other any more!
i don't understand why not just put in a bunch of the cheaper bc/wrath/cata gems? unless you just got the gear or the gem market for your faction/server is dominated by a few people.
Remember to not spend gold on reforge either!
People like you are the pest in this game.
Hook 'till you're hooked!
If you honestly have such a problem with that design, you should do one of several things.
1. Create your own game.
2. Join Blizzards development team and make a change.
3. Send constant emails, tweets, flying squirrels, or telepathic messages to Blizzard informing them they needs to fix this to your standards.
4. OR, as it is so quaintly put for the PVE crowd who has complaints about things which are "equally wrong" on their side, quit.
But the notion that you're in a position to dictate "expectations" or "requirements" for others to partake of the game at your level isn't unreasonable, it's idiotic and childish.
The summation of this whole topic is that while there ARE options for PvP enthusiast to actually do what they want on EQUAL footing already; it apparently requires too much effort. Which makes you're entire attempt at an argument the pure definition of HYPOCRISY.
Weapon enchants - it's a proc so no it's less than 1650 pri stat.
Reforging - did you ever played before reforging? People raided back then too.
Yeas you totally can raid without chants and gems.
There are new players comming to wow all time, for example my brother recently started playing and has no clue what all that is about. If you would kindly explain to a player the pros about having the gems/enchants and explain how to get them etc. chanses are high that they will listen, but if you however flame him for not having it he will most likely ignore you like he did with all others that did the same thing.
If you don't wanna play with those kinda players just don't invite them to your group, you arent forced to que to heroics or BGs alone, que up with your friends and you instantly avoid that problem.
these people are bad, but there's even worse. ever run into max level characters with greens from the PREVIOUS expansion.. or even worse? ive ran into multiple level 90s with level 80 quest rewards.. hell, a few even had level 70.. or worse.
some people just play the game to get gear then do nothing with it when they get it. theyre in the bg to get those pieces of precious loot that they fap to after they obtain it. they play the game for loot, that's it.
that being said.. here's what i did when i dinged 90:
-went to AH and bought a full contender's pvp set
-gemmed and enchanted it
And I started this expansion with like 3k gold. The rest I got was from questing 85-90.
Don't even bother yourself with these people, if they manage to comprehend what you're trying to tell them they won't care anyway. They're just there to collect loot.
Gear for PvP should be generated on your character on entering an arena or BG and replaced by your actual gear on leaving.
That way people would PvP based on skill and not on time invested in gearing up.
It would also fix the problem where on PvP servers anyone questing in PVE gear is a free kill.
Yeah, those level 90s with level 80 and level 70 gear playing a team game really help a lot. Not like it's hard to mouse over a higher level quest reward and say "hey, that's better than this."
On top of that, enchanting and gemming fully costs next to nothing and the gold you got from levelling more than covers it.
Guess you're mad because you spent all of your gold on pokemon training or something.
Ofc you can raid without doing your best. But why on earth do you want other to carry you because you slack? So get a grip and gem and enchant your gear. It cost about NOTHING, and takes 5 minutes. So by not doing it you only prove that you're slacking, and dont deserve to get a spot in any Raid nor premade BG. As you're clearly stating out with your non-gemmed/enchanted gear that you dont give a f*ck.
If I decide to make a PuG (Wich I did alot back in Cata and Wrath), I'd never pick someone who even missed out on one gem or enchant. I'd tell them "Dude, gem/enchant all off your gear, then come back." or even "Gem/enchant your gear right, then come back"
Because if someone is lacking gems and enchant, I instantly think: "Well, if he cant gem his gear, why should he be able to read up on tactics? Or even his own class?"
So no, I'm not being rude - you're being rude by not doing the easiest step to improve your char. And thus making 9/24 other people wait for you..
Hook 'till you're hooked!
So lets apply this logic a little more:
Who needs gear? You can still tank, dps and heal without any gear so lets just skip gear totally.
The bosses will die eventually anyway, just a few expansions down the road.
And while we are at it, why use skills and spells? Soooooooooooo much clicking stuff is so boooooring. The dps can just auto-attack things untill they die.
Not use reforging becuse it was not needed before, ok.
Then lets only use skills and spells that are the same since vanilla. People raided back in vanilla with those skills and spells so we dont need any of the new shit now either!
Active mitagation?!?! Whats this new stuff, lets not use it becuse it sure as hell was not needed back in the old days! They raided without it so we can do the same!
Gemming, enchanting and reforging makes your character do more damage, heal more and a better tank.
Doing more damage, healing more and beeing a better tank kills bosses faster and easier. If you want to do better in the game you need to use these things.
If you dont care, then dont use them thats your choice but no matter how you turn it these things makes raider smoother.
And yes, for people that want to push how far they can go in this game your attitude is a pest.