End game for pro global warming people = $8 light bulbs bought from ge, who funds these bias studies. They restart the study if they dont get the results they were paid to find, they dont publish them.
Inc, wacko scientists who's livleyhoods depend on it being true.
I'm pro global warming (whatever that means), and I don't want to see $8 light bulbs.
The truth is, results can be fabricated (picking and choosing start and stop dates), but the actual science cannot.
Remember when big oil (Koch) funded an AGW study? The science confirmed humans as a cause. Ooops.
It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere.
I bought a large pack of those energy efficient lightbulbs that are guaranteed to last 10 years 12 years ago, they're all still working and not a single one has blown out. Usually blew at least one light bulb every 2-3 months before that. I must refer back to the "what if GCC turns out to be a hoax and we make a better world for nothing" comic.
You can still buy the $1 light bulbs that last 6 months... don't see why you'd want to though when you can buy $8 light bulbs that last for 12+ years. It's just common sense economics, especially when they use less power.
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2014 Gamergate: "If you want games without hyper sexualized female characters and representation, then learn to code!"
2023: "What's with all these massively successful games with ugly (realistic) women? How could this have happened?!"
It would be, except that I've bought literally hundreds (my house, fully stocked, needs about 80 bulbs) of those bulbs, and they rarely last a even year.
I guess what we have have here is a case of conflicting anecdotes.
(Oh yea... The light from a couple 40-watt standard soft-white bulbs is soooooo much nicer than a compact fluorescent. I have CFL's throughout the house, but I have standard bulbs in my office and reading area.)
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Because like all modern technology, its made to fail.
Loads of things are made to fail, laptops, printers, cellphones, cars...
We have tech to make things last almost indefinitly but its "bad for the almighty market" so instead of persuading people to upgrade with actual developments and innovation, they force them due to made to fail fabrications.
Look at this for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centennial_Light
Or just noticing how you still have working cars from the 60, 70. 90s and somehow modern cars seem to start having problems after 5 years.
There are some companies that get a lot of flak for that, apple being one of the biggest (their bateries are made to die after 2 years if i recall?) and they are stupid-expensive.
There are (were?) several sites actually with how to prevent things from failing or how to fix them, one of the most hilarious examples are printers and printer ink, to the point where it had a reset button on them that you could access after mild disassembly, that would make it suddenly have a lot of ink again (it had a timer to make it notify the printer that its out of ink after a while).
Or how old printers you could print so darn much, modern seem to get out of ink real fast somehow
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Not trying? I'll have you know it takes me a lot of effort to ignore 90% of the articles!
The evolution of Climate Change Skepticism Denialism:
1. It's not happening and we aren't causing it!
2. It's might be happening but we aren't causing it!
3. It's happening but we aren't causing it!
4. It's happening and we might be causing it, but I'm too ignorant to be sure!
5. It's happening but we only cause a little of it, so don't do anything!
6. It's happening and we are causing it, but it's not bad enough to need action!
7. It's happening and we are causing it and it's terrible, but it's too late do anything about it so fuck us
The problem with most hippies in this thread is that they want to destroy the world to save the world.
Been a long time since I limited this issue to US<->rest of the sane world.
Sad part is we had our shot in the western world, it is hard to deny the developing world their chance to prosper by telling them NO - dont polute!
But soon after Mr Xi secured a third term, Apple released a new version of the feature in China, limiting its scope. Now Chinese users of iPhones and other Apple devices are restricted to a 10-minute window when receiving files from people who are not listed as a contact. After 10 minutes, users can only receive files from contacts.
Apple did not explain why the update was first introduced in China, but over the years, the tech giant has been criticised for appeasing Beijing.
Actually, if anything the developing countries are bigger polluters (when accounting for size and total power used) than the developed world, an effect of having energy-producing technology from the developed world without the infrastructure in place to streamline and maximize the energy gained. That and in areas where there is instability, setting up renewable energy-utilizing systems is simply unfeasible.
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But soon after Mr Xi secured a third term, Apple released a new version of the feature in China, limiting its scope. Now Chinese users of iPhones and other Apple devices are restricted to a 10-minute window when receiving files from people who are not listed as a contact. After 10 minutes, users can only receive files from contacts.
Apple did not explain why the update was first introduced in China, but over the years, the tech giant has been criticised for appeasing Beijing.
I think people are stuck in a time warp of 40-50 years ago when the only people that wanted to "save the earth" were pot smokers. These days it's scientists and most of the developed world. Some people are just behind the times.
2014 Gamergate: "If you want games without hyper sexualized female characters and representation, then learn to code!"
2023: "What's with all these massively successful games with ugly (realistic) women? How could this have happened?!"
OP posts like this make me NOT want to believe in global warming. 1st, "This isn't a statistical thread proving that scientifically, global warming must be true." But with said title, "How could you NOT believe in global warming?" Definitely seems like a horrible way to start a thread.
2nd, point to the evidence "at my house 8 years ago...." has zero basis in fact and as thus can be completely disregarded.
There have been many threads about global warming in this off-topic forum, and it usually has the pro-global warming saying "give me a study to back up your claims or gtfo." Now we have this thread with no evidence, just 1 subjective observation from somewhere in Canada...