[Megathread] Bioshock Infinite

[Jamber]

another question: Is there any explanation on why the people of Columbia worship John Wilkes Booth and hate Lincoln?

Comstock created a religion based on the ideals of early america, namely, white supremacy. And you know how people love to cling to religion. Abraham Lincoln is seen as "The Great Emancipator", starting the chain reaction to the slaves being freed, and later, more equality. Therefore, Lincoln was a devil, and the man who assassinated him, Booth, was seen as a Martyr

[Myrrar]

another question: Is there any explanation on why the people of Columbia worship John Wilkes Booth and hate Lincoln?

They're racist. Comstock talks about it in some of the propaganda, the founders are all rich whites and believe in racial purity.

[Fallen Angel]

another question: Is there any explanation on why the people of Columbia worship John Wilkes Booth and hate Lincoln?

I'm fairly certain it's based on the racism thing and going back to the ideals of the founding fathers when the United States were first created, which is why you have people praying to Fathers Franklin, Jefferson, and Washington in the beginning.

[Very Tired]

Thanks for the black bars everyone.

Can someone give me some tech support for this game? I downloaded it all on steam. When I launch it the screen just stays black, gives me a no disc error, and the game stops working.

[icedwarrior]

Thanks for the black bars everyone.

Can someone give me some tech support for this game? I downloaded it all on steam. When I launch it the screen just stays black, gives me a no disc error, and the game stops working.

Maybe your drivers are out of date? BioShock Infinite gave me a warning that mine was out of date when I first launched...just a thought.

[Vorsyn]

So after finishing the game on hard yesterday and about 1/3 through on 1999 mode today, I have a few questions about minor details to the games story that are bugging me a bit. After piecing together the story and getting a grip on most of it, there are still a few things that I'm not 100% clear on. Heavy spoilers here, be careful what you click on.


1. Fact: Booker Dewitt is Comstock. At the end of the game we have multiple Elizabeth (or Anna, what have you) from different realities all gathering together at the point in time where Booker makes the decision to be reborn by baptism. My problem with this is that even though they picked the most important time in Booker/Comstocks life to kill him.
This does not address the FACT (in this games reality) that there are Infinite universes. Universes where despite the path he has gone down still end at this point. Considering all the talk about constants and variables, are we to assume that these constants (Booker, Elizabeth, Columbia itself, etc) are the end result in any reality, and that regardless of each universes variables, all end here? Are we to assume that this "ending" to Booker, happens across this multiverse?
If that is the case, then, how do we meet with an aged Elizabeth-turned-Comstock? An Elizabeth that has gone down a timeline waiting for Booker? Was that the original timeline with her waiting for booker? I was a little confused on that part, although I haven't reached that part on my second play through yet.

2. Why is Comstock racist? Booker Dewitt is ex military, turned hired gun working for the Pinkterton group, with PTSD from the battle of Wounded Knee. If you remember, the battle of wounded knee was the last "battle" against Native Americans. It was massacre, based on a misunderstanding of one native american asked to turn his firearms over at the request of his white "captives" who were escorting the tribe. Booker is shown to be regretful of being in this "battle" in the part of the game where we meet Slate. Did I misunderstand his feelings of guilt as something else entirely? When he gave himself up to "forgive his sins" in baptism, why does he then immediately go create a city in the sky that basically screams "fuck everyone that aren't white" Did I miss something here? I get that he is a bit crazy after stealing his own daughter from himself, locking her in a tower, using her abilities to be a "prophet" to see the future and all that mixed up stuff,... but why is he racist when the very act of baptism was supposed to wash away his sins of being at a massacre.

Most of these questions are probably answered with "its just a game story" but I thought there might be something I missed the first time around.

[Fallen Angel]

Thanks for the black bars everyone.

Can someone give me some tech support for this game? I downloaded it all on steam. When I launch it the screen just stays black, gives me a no disc error, and the game stops working.

I would first and foremost update everything you can. I would also check and see if there is plenty of space left over on my hard drive for the game (limited space can do some strange things). After checking all of your drivers and ensuring you have enough free space, try playing the game. If it still does not work, delete it and reinstall. If you got the game disks, try using the advice in this thread http://steamcommunity.com/discussion...4270248256/#p1

If you're just doing digital, rerun the download and try playing.

If all else fails, make a thread here http://forums.steampowered.com/forum...lay.php?f=1538

Be as detailed as possible with your system specs and driver versions.

[Wynnyelle]

So after finishing the game on hard yesterday and about 1/3 through on 1999 mode today, I have a few questions about minor details to the games story that are bugging me a bit. After piecing together the story and getting a grip on most of it, there are still a few things that I'm not 100% clear on. Heavy spoilers here, be careful what you click on.

Sure, there are infinite universes, but when Booker is killed before the baptism takes place, he removes the possibility of Comstock or Columbia ever existing across the timelines. Because Comstock never exists and Booker never sells his daughter to him, he is not filled with guilt and the baptism never takes place in any of the timelines. It is implied that that remains constant. And since that is the case, you don't meet up with Elizabeth. The events that took place in the game are erased and never happened. Elizabeth from the Columbia universe no longer exists because that part of the timeline (of all the timelines) does not exist anymore.

As for your second question, who knows? I was just assuming that it was because Comstock was batshit insane. Maybe originally his intentions were good but because of all his meddling with traveling across alternate universes his brain got screwed up or something. I mean, it did sterilize him and cause him to age rapidly, so who knows what else it could have done? I don't know if we'll ever have a real answer for that though.

[Mawnix]

I finished it.

That ending has to be one of the most well crafted things I've ever seen.

[Nezera]

Ugh, finding the 'shooter' part of the game awful. Controls feel messy and shooting is unsatisfying and clunky. I want to see the story but so far I can't stand the combat.

[CrossNgen]

There's nothing wrong or clunky with the combat, you're just used to the streamlining CoD has done over the years to most shooters

[Nezera]

There's nothing wrong or clunky with the combat, you're just used to the streamlining CoD has done over the years to most shooters

I have never played CoD or their ilk. Half Life 2 and CS:S are the only FPS's I have done in recent years. I find the binds just awkward. I'm constantly firing off vigors when I want to zoom into a scope and zooming into a scope when I want to melee.

Why put an ability activate on right click? Why have to select your vigors with 1,2,3,4 etc instead of just pressing the key to fire it in the first place? Seems like console constraints tainting the pc version.

I am sure I'll get used to it in a couple of hours, I am just not enjoying it right now. Perhaps I'll have a look at the hotkeys, see if I can change anything around.

[Event Horizon]

I'm barely enjoying the game now. Every time I have to throw away a weapon to pick another up my eye starts to twitch and then compounding that annoyance is the checkpoint system. After playing for an hour or so I’ve had enough and want to take a break, oh wait I can’t quit because I haven’t reached a checkpoint. I’m forced to keep playing or lose my progress. Why a save on quit option wasn’t added I just can’t fathom.

These two issues are really ruining a good game for me

[Nezera]

Yeah, not sure why checkpoint systems are still lingering around these days...

[CrossNgen]

I have never played CoD or their ilk. Half Life 2 and CS:S are the only FPS's I have done in recent years. I find the binds just awkward. I'm constantly firing off vigors when I want to zoom into a scope and zooming into a scope when I want to melee.

Why put an ability activate on right click? Why have to select your vigors with 1,2,3,4 etc instead of just pressing the key to fire it in the first place? Seems like console constraints tainting the pc version.

I am sure I'll get used to it in a couple of hours, I am just not enjoying it right now. Perhaps I'll have a look at the hotkeys, see if I can change anything around.

Because that's how it was in bioshock 2, instead of having to completely switch weapons and pick a plasmid in bioshock 1, they changed it so you could instantly use your guns while also using your plasmids together, also, if you're having trouble aiming, press Z.

[SirRobin]

Turning down the mouse sensitivity and turning off mouse acceleration took care of the shooting parts for me. Made the combat much smoother. Pushed through last night and finally finished the game. Must say that even though I already knew the ending, and had guessed lots of it anyway, it still brought tears to my eyes. Do wish the clip after the credits was a smidge more complete though. I had to youtube it because mine went non responsive as soon as the credits finished.

I would rank it in the top ten games I've ever played and what puts it there is:

1. Environment
   
   Columbia is simply stunning. The different stages and locations within the city were gorgeous.
2. Story
   
   It drew me in and made me uncomfortable at the same time. Quite the achievement for a gamer as cynical and jaded as I.
3. Elizabeth
   
   Best supporting character ever. A supporting character that actually supports you. Beautifully realized.
4. Discomfort
   
   BSI got under my skin and stayed there. I was drawn in and repelled, in almost equal parts, throughout the experience.

[Artra]

Why put an ability activate on right click? Why have to select your vigors with 1,2,3,4 etc instead of just pressing the key to fire it in the first place? Seems like console constraints tainting the pc version.

I am sure I'll get used to it in a couple of hours, I am just not enjoying it right now. Perhaps I'll have a look at the hotkeys, see if I can change anything around.

First thing I did was to bind vigors to middle mouse button and zoom to right click. Very easy to do in the menus and it made for a much better play experience.

[Mesovr]

I have never played CoD or their ilk. Half Life 2 and CS:S are the only FPS's I have done in recent years. I find the binds just awkward. I'm constantly firing off vigors when I want to zoom into a scope and zooming into a scope when I want to melee.

Why put an ability activate on right click? Why have to select your vigors with 1,2,3,4 etc instead of just pressing the key to fire it in the first place? Seems like console constraints tainting the pc version.

I am sure I'll get used to it in a couple of hours, I am just not enjoying it right now. Perhaps I'll have a look at the hotkeys, see if I can change anything around.

You can change all your binds around for PC. The vigors/plasmids have been like that since the original Bioshock no reason for you to expect them to change now. The only thing that is a relic from consloes in my eyes is the weapon limit and the horrible checkpoint system. I get it that holding 9+ weapons is silly but the game itself is taking place in a flying city inhabited by magic(for the sake of not spoling anything) racists they could have made up some exuse to hold more than 2.

[Deleted]

So I just finished the game and have to say: It's not bad enough to stop playing (really enjoyed the time), but also not good enough to fulfill my expactations.

The intro and the first third of the game were awesome. They kept the brilliant Rapture style and just converted it into Columbia. Also the amount of weapons is great. Elizabeth is also a great partner. You're out of ammo? "Here, Ammo!" You're out of Salt? "Here, Salt!". Really appreciated that.

But soon after the Mr. Lin incident and the whole "different dimensions" thing I knew the game would've a bad ending (in my eyes). At the end, I just thought: "Now give me my endboss fight and that's it..." Protecting an engine is the last fight of the game?!

Overall, good game, nothing more.

[Poppincaps]

So I just finished the game and have to say: It's not bad enough to stop playing (really enjoyed the time), but also not good enough to fulfill my expactations.

The intro and the first third of the game were awesome. They kept the brilliant Rapture style and just converted it into Columbia. Also the amount of weapons is great. Elizabeth is also a great partner. You're out of ammo? "Here, Ammo!" You're out of Salt? "Here, Salt!". Really appreciated that.

But soon after the Mr. Lin incident and the whole "different dimensions" thing I knew the game would've a bad ending (in my eyes). At the end, I just thought: "Now give me my endboss fight and that's it..." Protecting an engine is the last fight of the game?!

Overall, good game, nothing more.

Some games don't warrant a boss fight. Bioshock Infinite is one of those games.