I plan on sticking with Fire. My guild is casual and we're in no hurry so it might be enough in the numbers department. However if Frost or Arcane pull way ahead of Fire, which at this point is a possibility, actually at this point everything is a possibility, I might respec, but everything in those datamined notes is going to change. It always does, so we just have to wait.
Its a moot point about Frost being the top spec. Frost is the lowest or near lowest class on Spec Score and Median DPS for both Top 100 and median parses across all fights 10N, 10H. 25N and 25H on raidbots. The Frostbolt buff doesn't compensate for either the Invocation nerf (and yes it is a nerf) or the pet Freeze nerf. Frost is getting its DPS nerfed based on these patch notes. On top of that, the only scale factor for Frost is Haste and we're moving into the 2nd tier of raiding this expansion. Frost can not compete with other specs, not even the hybrids because it simply doesn't scale. If Frost becomes the top spec prepare to be benched because you are a burden on your raid group. You don't provide anything your guild can't find somewhere else for both better DPS and more utility.
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Might aswell play my Frost DK now when mages are being nerfed both in PvP and PvE.
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I'm staying whatever spec I like. Honestly if you want to switch specs.. I have to wonder about fotm.(Been Arcane since Cata so don't go there)
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To answer your question, yes. It's ~15 ice lances. That's ~2 million damage. A lot more than 1k DPS. That said, I fully expect water jet to show up in a polished form.
Im not seeing how this is going to be a reduction in ice lances? Or by being a successful freeze is it implying you cant gain frost procs off Bosses? if so i've messed up a little :P
That kind of leaves the question of what exactly the point of those FoF charges is.
http://www.raidbots.com/dpsbot/Gara'...0/7/30/median/. This is data parsed specifically from the top 100 WoL parses over the last 7 days and as you can see Fire is 35% ahead of Frost so even under the faulty assumption that top parses are representative of class performance Frost is far behind Fire on the fight you're claiming Frost dominates Fire in. And don't bother using the mean instead of the median because the gap between Frost and Fire only grows from there.
But ye your are right in a way that top mages aren't frost atm, cause why would they?
Oh and frost on gara'jal hc? Top mages on both 25 and 10 are at 120k dps.. and a direct drop down after that. A well geared fire mage with a bit of rng on his side will still pull over 130k maybe even 140k dps on it if he logs it and gets the damage buff, there just is no fire mages on Gara'jal atm.. while there still are both arcane and frost that can compete from rank 1 dps(within their spec)..
You guys should hang out with us hunters. Bottom 3 of 4 specs on all the parses, and not a buff to be seen in these patch notes outside of some QoL changes.
I mean, seriously, reading a thread about mages "being ruined" is literally laughable, we're not even that alarmist over in our corner.
Don't use "overall DPS" as an indication of everything. It includes everything in the logs, and yes, on trash SV can pull silly numbers because we're essentially not AoE capped.
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